Gary Glitter Personna non grata!

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
20/08/2008 06:44

Hi All,



Given that Mr Paul Gadd has been declared personna non grata by Vietnam, Cambodia and now Thailand, and seems to have no appetite to return to The UK, has anyone any thoughts where he may end up?



I can think of a couple of places where wealthy criminals and wanted fugitives favour?



Any suggestions where he will be welcomed?



wyn

littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 2594


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 06:48

they seem to be reluctant to prosecute peodos in the south or if theyt do it's a slap on the wrist so lets hope he joins his the commie over there.

Skogsy


Joined: 15/05/2008
Posts: 284


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 06:55

If he has his thingy cut off dont bother me where he stays.

Skogs

puppylover



Joined: 05/05/2008
Posts: 366


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 06:56

Wyn......



Wherever he goes he will soon end up in the UK....he's stated that he wants treatment on the NHS.



Vile person.....he's never shown any remorse for his actions but then none of them do.

He appears to enjoy the attention he's getting.



I pray he does not end up in TRNC!!!

Chessman


Joined: 13/05/2008
Posts: 389


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 07:09

In a way It would be 'interesting' if he turned up in TRNC. Bearing in mind how they fell about children here, I think MR. Gadd's body parts would appear in various parts of the Island!

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 2732


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 08:45

He's a vile Man. The sooner he meets his maker the better.

PtePike



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Posts: 2345


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 09:36

Glitter was given a date for his release. She was eight, but with her makeup on looks 12.

hattikins


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Posts: 429


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 10:40

It seems that Thailand are now giving him a choice, board a plane for the UK or go to jail, seems fair enough to me but he obviously still thinks of himself as a celebrity who can do as he pleases,he,s said he wants to go shopping in Hong Kong !!!!!!!

He will never show remorse for what he,s done because paedophiles don,t believe they are doing anything wrong, that is what makes them so dangerous, and being put on the Sex Offenders Register makes no difference to them whatsoever.

jackeen


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Posts: 205


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 10:49

In an interview on tv the other night Paul Gatt said that he did not know the legal age for consent in the country he was in was 18. Why did he admit this, or is it that he is stupid? This is a man who has toured the world and was completely ignorant to the fact that small children are not of the legal age of consent. On the news this morning it stated that he said he is having a heart attack, let him have it then. As a mother, I abhor reading,hearing about dreadful acts on children, sexual or otherwise. I have got into trouble by saying things but let mothers get their hands on the likes of this man for half an hour. He wont have a happy life in this country and thats why he wants to stay away. Send him the USA they put up signs warning residents where these people live.

kimosh


Joined: 09/08/2008
Posts: 88


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 10:59

repulsive man ... for sex offenders it should be the death penalty ... why should the tax payer pay to keep this guy alive ... and as for being a celebrity he was never any good at that ... what is it. cos ya have money you can behave and do as ya like and get away with it .... seems like it ??? ... and its never what goes around comes around really ... seems the worst you are the better you seem to get on in this world ,,

No1Doyen


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Posts: 2732


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 11:23

Paedophiles!! We never had Paedophiles in my day....we had to buy our own sweets!!

authentichoccie


Joined: 09/01/2008
Posts: 111


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 11:39

Just looking at him makes my skin crawl!

Yea let him come here, i'm sure we can arrange a welcome party for him at Ercan, i know a couple of very handy butchers, who would ensure he wouldn't need to stand up any more to take a pee!!!!!!!

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 430


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 11:40

Whilst I would never condone anything the likes of Gadd get up to, I find the latest proposal by the UK gov to be strange. Apparently, if you break the law abroad, as refers under age sex, although it may be legal in the country where it happens, on return to the UK you will be prosecuted as if it had happened in the UK.

Does this mean that any UK citizen driving at 100mph on a German autobahn should be prosecuted for speeding on their return to the UK?

I think that servicemen are subject to UK law wherever they are posted, but civilians?

jackeen


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Posts: 205


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 12:06

Let him go to Iran, they cut off hands if a person is found guilty of stealing so what would their take be on this person?

Turtle



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Posts: 785


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 12:41

As msg4, He has all his life been an attention seeker and now is no different.

He was rubbish as a pop star and he is rubbish now so lets just bin him.

No1Doyen


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Posts: 2732


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 13:01

I certainly don't want to be in his gang.

ROBnJO


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Message Posted:
20/08/2008 13:26

There were perv's around when I was a lad in the 60's.



They're around still. They were as 'evil' then as they are now.



So what would all you posters do if Paul Gadd was in front of you and you had a gun in your hands.???



Would you pull the trigger? Or realise that these people need psychiatric help?





Some on here think that 'demasculating' them is the answer, others lifetime prison sentence, others death.





What, exactly, does 'let's just bin him' mean??





I thought we were supposed to be civilised, proactive, or at the least, reactive to social problems,......



Or would most of you still like to stone someone to death?









An anthropologist would have a field day on here!

Elliecy


Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 62


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 13:58

Someone who repeatedly re-offends in this way (which he has) should be chemically castrated. He shows no remorse and is therefore likely to reoffend. Some solutions do seem a bit radical, but how would you feel if it was your child? He knew perfectly well what he was doing, which is probably why he went to Thailand where he thought he would be more likely to get away with it.

No1Doyen


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Posts: 2732


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 13:58

Psychiatry doesn't help people like that. I'm sure Brady & Hindley would have been analysed by many Psychiatrists during their prison stays. Do you think Brady's now a changed man?

Lock Glitter up thats what I say.

dozza67


Joined: 11/07/2008
Posts: 125


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 14:35

Dirty, Filthy, Disgusting little pervert. I would rather cut his c**k of than send him to a psychiatric hospital. There is no excuse for what he does to children. Never mind chemically castrating him, do it properly so that he can never harm a child again.

CJtill


Joined: 02/05/2008
Posts: 172


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 15:03

There is as much chance as Paul Gadd appering in the TRNC as there is Michael Jackson and Jonathan King arriving at Ercan, with John Leslie flying the plane.

Wherever he ends up he will not be able to settle because who he is and what he has done, so his life will be a living nightmare every day.

For a man who has committed these crimes this is the best punishment in my view as death is too easy.

Michael

Chessman


Joined: 13/05/2008
Posts: 389


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 15:08

My opinion is that some humans are born evil, live evil and die evil and no amount of psychiatric help will make a difference. It's all in the genes and that is why they are recidivists. All IMHO!

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 429


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 15:12

Michael,

I totally agree with you, he won,t find any peace wherever he goes and this in turn should prevent him from re offending as his card is well and truly marked.

I am a mother and grandmother and naturally find his actions revolting but we are supposed to be civilised, violence against him is not the answer, that would just bring us down to his level.

jackeen


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 205


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 15:12

He hasn't been allowed from airside in the airport although has been shopping in duty free. He knows that when he sets down on this soil his life will be as stated in message 21. Message 17 have you got children? Mine are grown up but they are still my children. And if anyone harmed them now they would have me to answer to. All these killings at the moment I feel for each parent when I hear of one, its a natural thing for a parent to do. What he and others like him have done to young children is without a doubt a henious crime. That they think of it is one thing and then to do it?????????????????????

berty



Joined: 11/01/2008
Posts: 128


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 15:25

why are you even discussing this individual??

PtePike



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Posts: 2345


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 15:48

Msg25,



Exactly. Pervs are all around us and for all we know among us. More to the point, what am I going to do with my "Leader" tour T-shirt now?

aweverard


Joined: 13/07/2008
Posts: 36


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 16:21

Pike,



A ceremonial burning to cleanse yourself perhaps? but what every you do don't wear it!

david123


Joined: 07/07/2008
Posts: 185


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 16:56

Hi all,



yes they are sick, but while the goverments in these country's (inc uk) let them get away with it, they will do it, instead of putting them in prisons with there own sort, maybe they should put them in the cell with a bunch of bent body builders, but before they do cut there d*** off, and break there leg so they can't get away, maybe they will think about it next time.



David123

pilgrim



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Posts: 903


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 18:01

Don't know why british media give so much coverage to pervs

wynyardman



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Posts: 2645


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 18:17

Chemical castration. (without the chemicals maybe!)

jamesb


Joined: 07/02/2007
Posts: 354


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 18:19

Robnjo - message 17



In answer to your question I'd feed him through a mincer, feet first.

jamesb


Joined: 07/02/2007
Posts: 354


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 18:25

If its in you its in you.

If your attracted to women or men thats your thing - if your attracted to children no matter how much sitting round a table talking about is going to change it.



He is a threat to children everywhere

CJtill


Joined: 02/05/2008
Posts: 172


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 18:34

Though I find some of the solutions quite good in themselves, they unfortunately cannot be carried out due to various laws of the land, human rights acts, and our belief that we are civilised. My previous posting (no 21).

Moving away from Gadd (hopefully for ever) but staying with the subject, what is the answer with convicted child molesters. Should the sentence be increased to life without parole, should they be institutionalized for the remainder of their natural lives or if they volunteer to be castrated should they receive a light sentence (6 months)

Is it a worse crime than murder which I believe is about 25 years these days.

Is this getting to serious a subject to discuss here.

Michael

kimosh


Joined: 09/08/2008
Posts: 88


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 19:04

doesnt matter where this guy goes in the world he will no longer be safe .... well i prayer he wont .... doesnt really matter what happens to him it will never be enough will it .... god only knows what the victims famalies are going through.....

Turtle



Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 785


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 19:12

Robnjo msg17



"just bin him" I meant just that........put him with the rubbish, recycle him, get rid of him..........whatever they do with rubbish these days.

I am very sorry but modern, in the community medical help doesnt do it for me it worries me.

wynyardman



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Posts: 2645


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 19:18

Refused entry to Bangkok, now been refused entry to Hong Kong. He will not come to UK.



Where next?

phylray


Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 573


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 23:12

If the offending part is cut off would that stop the desire ?

He might still be a danger so should not be let loose.

If it's 'in the genes' as has been suggested, then he will not change

but everyone at one time was an innocent baby with mother who

(probably) loved him. Nobody really explains what happens to such men.

jackeen


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 205


Message Posted:
20/08/2008 23:26

I think that there's another rocket going never to return maybe just maybe. I know its wishful thinking but who wants him on their doorstep? As someone already mentioned they are amongst us and we dont know it, thankfully.

littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 2594


Message Posted:
21/08/2008 06:35

08.30 bbc world news reports the pervert has been returned to vietnam as hong kong will not let him in .!!!!



the uk awaits.

breezyboy



Joined: 14/05/2007
Posts: 362


Message Posted:
21/08/2008 09:16

Like somebody said he thrives on attention. So why did the news this morning give him prime spot ahead of the Madrid plane crash. They should ignore the revolting piece of dung and starve him of this oxygen of publicity.

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 430


Message Posted:
21/08/2008 12:35

"I'd split his nostrils open with a boat-hook". (Monty Python 1981 - No Plagiarism here.)

slimboyfat


Joined: 01/05/2008
Posts: 63


Message Posted:
21/08/2008 13:42

Nige,

He was flown back to Thailand and has now agreed to be returned to the UK.

No1Doyen


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Posts: 2732


Message Posted:
21/08/2008 15:47

It'll be a nightmare now if you are travelling to Heathrow.

kenny



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Message Posted:
21/08/2008 17:50

next stop for him? HELL i hope

ilovemydogs



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Posts: 501


Message Posted:
21/08/2008 18:26

if i remember from when he got put in jail . they said as soon as he sets foot in england again he will be arrested immediately. that's why he won't come back. we will soon see.

no1doyen


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Posts: 2732


Message Posted:
21/08/2008 20:00

has he commited any crimes in the UK?

wynyardman



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Message Posted:
21/08/2008 20:07

No1 Doyen,



Didnt they find dodgy photos on his computer when he took it to PC World for repair.



Served his time as I recall. He always denied the offences in Vietnam, Said he was set up by the press!.



He was however found guilty in a Vietnamese Court!



wyn

DutchCrusader


Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 363


Message Posted:
21/08/2008 21:50

Wyn, you started this thread. But you don't even know how to write the text in the subject. After 47 replies I think I should tell you that's "persona" and not "personna". My editor in chief, some 40 years ago, used to say: "Don't use words and/or expressions in my paper when you don't know how to spell it or when you have to look it up". Try to remember it, Wyn, please. If you're not bright, don't try to be bright. A lack of of education is OK - but please remember it.

cyprusishome


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Posts: 1132


Message Posted:
21/08/2008 22:26

The real criminals are the press and those that read the stories about this man or many others with abnormal tendencies.



If he was allowed to travel to wherever without press attention maybe he would drop out of the headlines.



It is the press and threads like this that promote the persona. He is a UK citezen and as such allowed to enter the UK freely. That is no story!!!



The only reason he is making headlines and a mention on this BB is that he is a former hit record maker. If he was simply "joe pervert" caught in Thailand with a young boy or girl nothing would be said.

jackeen


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 205


Message Posted:
21/08/2008 23:31

He's on his way back to the UK and what the future holds for him we will have to wait and see. I have already made my views on this subject known. He will become the victim as that is how it seems to be here. Yes, he might have served his time but his crime is terrible.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 2732


Message Posted:
22/08/2008 07:35

Did the punishment fit the crime?

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 429


Message Posted:
22/08/2008 08:51

Re message 48

Does it really matter that a small spelling mistake was made, how petty can people get, the point of the posting was what was going to happen to a child abuser who was being returned to the UK.

In my opinion it is better to have a PERSONality than to be able to spell properly, this board is for fun and information not to gain entry to university.

littlenige



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Message Posted:
22/08/2008 09:10

Hattikins very elequentley put i could not agree more.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
22/08/2008 09:13

Well said hattikins. Come on guys lets stop all this pettiness

PtePike



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Message Posted:
22/08/2008 09:17

CiH: "The only reason he is making headlines and a mention on this BB is that he is a former hit record maker. If he was simply "joe pervert" caught in Thailand with a young boy or girl nothing would be said."



You've got it in one, David. That's what sells hoards of tabloid newspapers - and by some of the comments on here you can tell who reads them. With their lips moving.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 429


Message Posted:
22/08/2008 09:35

I actually read the Guardian, without moving my lips, and watch the news on the BBC, but I still have an opinion on child abusers whoever they may be and in this high profile case I would be interested as to which country would grant him entry.

How sad that almost every posting has to ridiculed by the same couple of smart arses who think it,s clever to try to put people down. Serious question, what do you get out of it or do you really think you are superior to the majority of board members?

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 2732


Message Posted:
22/08/2008 09:48

You are right Eric. It's just boosting the paper sales. Who really cares about Gary Glitter. Hoever people are entitled to an opinion - whether their lips move or not! (good one by the way).

PtePike



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Message Posted:
22/08/2008 09:57

Hattikins: "Serious question, what do you get out of it or do you really think you are superior to the majority of board members?"



Morally, of course I am. I would never consider handling stolen goods and cashing in on the suffering of others. And that goes for most decent people. Quality of debate and wit is up to others to decide

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 429


Message Posted:
22/08/2008 10:16

Pike,

You really are deluded, and very monotonous, how in Gods name you can connect a posting on Gary Glitter with the property issue is beyond me, is that a sign of your debating skills and wit .

PtePike



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Message Posted:
22/08/2008 10:31

hattikins,



Because I was answering the question you asked me in msg 56. I thought Guardian readers were supposed to be brainy.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 429


Message Posted:
22/08/2008 10:46

Sorry but I think you are intellectually restricted due to your bigotry and bias, this prevents you from debating anything else properly so you then resort to sarcasm or humour.

But back to the original thread, Glitter is back in the UK and is due to sign the sex offenders register, it is believed that his future travel will be severely restricted.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1961


Message Posted:
22/08/2008 11:09

hi guys

i marvel at some of you guys, somehow people manage to get into a argument about a nonce (perv) on a north cyprus forum!!!!

at the end of the day gary baldy wont be able to sneeze without the press hounding him down so his life is over anyway he served his time and he will be on the sex offeners list wot more do we want to be hanged upside down by his meat and two veg!!!!

high profile or not it is wrong full stop but in places in the far east and even some places in europe it is acceptable you will always have supply where there is demand (sorry to be crude just stating facts)

when i was in thailand i saw it all over the place 50-60 year old english and u.s men with two or three young kids some as young as 13-14 i cud not keep my mouth shut and got into many a heated argument to put it nicely!!!



so my last thoughts until governments near and far stamp this out we will always have this problem cos of these sicko nonce cases wont get it in civil countries they will just get on a plane and go to countries like thailand,vietnam , phillipines etc etc i say collect them all and put them on a ilsand and let them fiddle among themselves

now do we have to carry on such a irrevalavant (but sad) subject of gary glitter on this kind of forum it puts everyone on a downer , id rather talk about how long paint dries in over 30degrees heat

regards

ukturk

No1Doyen


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Posts: 2732


Message Posted:
22/08/2008 11:19

ukturk. Gloss or Emulsion?



Good post by the way.

littlenige



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Posts: 2594


Message Posted:
22/08/2008 11:52

Nonces ages since I last heard that " stangeways " when the riots were on if I rember right.

ukturk



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Posts: 1961


Message Posted:
22/08/2008 12:09

hi doyen

thanks defo gloss!!!

nige yeah nonce a old word when u say u last heard that in strangeways was u visting or wos u there on h.m.p!!! lol

regards

ukturk

jackeen


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 205


Message Posted:
22/08/2008 13:38

No........I cannot believe that gloss paint dries to a smooth finish in that heat, really? Then again I suppose it would take a long time to dry in the winter, that's if there are severe winters. I don't use gloss anymore haven't done for years I'm a vinyl silk girl myself. I was told just recently that gloss could be put on with a sponge and it does leave a really smooth finish but it's just the thought of the gloss. No matter how good my brushes I just couldnt manage and where does all that hair come from?

PtePike



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Posts: 2345


Message Posted:
22/08/2008 16:32

hattikins,



I was almost expecting you to be one of the interviewees:





http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NesjvRihbEg

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 429


Message Posted:
22/08/2008 17:10

Got better things to do mate, would rather read The Sun.

littlenige



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Message Posted:
22/08/2008 17:50

VILE Gary Glitter hinted at his sickening lust for under-age sex during an appearance on This Is Your Life.



A jokey reference to “adolescent schoolgirls” in uniform prompted him to put his finger to his lips. The disgraced glam rocker could also be clearly seen mouthing “shush”.

A Sun probe uncovered the astonishing footage from when Glitter starred on one of the ITV series’ profiles in 1991 – six years before his arrest over child porn on his laptop.

wynyardman



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Posts: 2645


Message Posted:
22/08/2008 18:40

Honi soit qui mal I pense.



(and that includes you DC Unwarranted and unbalanced)



wyn

mitsi


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 180


Message Posted:
24/08/2008 09:40

Lobotomise all paeds. That way you could have them living next door No danger to anyone as completely without a sex drive. No further cost to society. Prison IS NOT the answer cos they get fantastic treatment from officers and healthcare, Protocols insist on this and staff have no choice but to treat them as" normal " people. Take it from one who knows. The cost financially is phenomenal and despite all the treatment programmes for rehabilitation, most reoffend on release.

PtePike



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Message Posted:
24/08/2008 10:04

mitsi: "...The cost financially is phenomenal and despite all the treatment programmes for rehabilitation, most reoffend on release."



Can you supply data to back this up?

davidoff


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Posts: 398


Message Posted:
24/08/2008 11:08

Hi all,



In todays society I question the justice systems and their sentencing?



You get more years for fraud than murder?

And more time for stealing than sex offences?



He will offend again as its in his blood to do so?

People who re-offend WILL re-offend- hes proven that already?



HOPEFULLY this time round when he does get caught he will be sent to a uk prison on a block with inmates who have children???

Believe me when this happens they will deal with it for the sake of all children and parents around the world??



Take care d

ukturk



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Posts: 1961


Message Posted:
24/08/2008 20:36

hi

d i wud luv to agree with u but the problem is the convicted nonse cases when sent to prision it actually helps them let me explain all nonses get sectioned and fraggled off (prision term for a nonse) for their saftey so this broadens their networking once relleased they know more nonses up and down the country and also they have privaleges as if its a hotel they are staying at not a prison

and also the sex offders list can be dangerous to innocent people where in the past people who share the same names as convicted nonses are targgeted wrongfully recently when that old man was killed in his local villiage when the people thought they had a nonse living in their villiage

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 639


Message Posted:
24/08/2008 21:01

the days of nonse cases being worried in nick now are long gone, its the straight cons that have to worry.parkhurst has more nonses than straight hang the barstards

DutchCrusader


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Posts: 363


Message Posted:
24/08/2008 23:02

RE Wyn : (...) Honi soit qui mal I pense. (...)



Very good, Wyn! Only six words and almost without mistakes.

SAFFI


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Posts: 178


Message Posted:
25/08/2008 04:31

lock him up and throw away the key,

who cares about a few spelling mistakes,