English theme pub / bar for sale

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 1224


Message Posted:
30/07/2007 07:54

English theme pub/bar for sale.



Lapta area



10 year lease



Seating for approximately 100



Good ex pat and tourist clientele



Music license



Pool table



3 draught beers



Well kept garden area



Reasonable monthly Rent



Unique pub /bar with great potential for expansion



Genuine enquiries Please contact Ben on +90 533 429 166

Clueless


Joined: 02/08/2007
Posts: 12


Message Posted:
02/08/2007 13:58

£100,000lease + £72,000rent + 40% to cover costs over 10 years = £240,000

/ by 10 years = 24,000

/ by 365 days = 66.00

X by 2.5YTL = 165YTL

/ by 4YTL for a beer = sell 41 beers a day



Sounds like a good proposition to me!

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 1224


Message Posted:
03/08/2007 08:03

Well if you put it like that mandy it should go soon

Clueless


Joined: 02/08/2007
Posts: 12


Message Posted:
03/08/2007 12:38

Littlenige



Good Luck, if its the bar/restaurant that I think it is, it should sell very quickly, you still need to extend the car park to stop people parking on the main road and strolling up or worse still falling down.

namus


Joined: 23/06/2007
Posts: 65


Message Posted:
03/08/2007 12:46

Is 4 YTL the profit on each beer?

plus

Upkeep

maintenance

improvement

Wages

supplies

utilities

insurance

legal

banking

advertising

10% sundries

etc

etc

Plus the reason for any business = profit. I should say cash as profit on paper is not very tangible. Anybody who claims they do not run a business for profit will go out of business and their goal will be fulfilled.



I think you should count on more than 41 beers per day. More like 70 covers consuming a mixture of drinks and snacks to generate healthy profit on the lease/rent figures.



Pub/bar is a tough business. Very profitable when handled correctly but can be quite the opposite. Notoriously difficult to obtain accurate trading figures due to the cash nature i.e. not everything declared.

Clueless


Joined: 02/08/2007
Posts: 12


Message Posted:
03/08/2007 12:58

Ah! bless you Namus



You see in my original figures there is 40% added to the initial take over price to um, cover costs 68,000.00 pounds over 10 years = 6,800.00 pounds a year

My figures are also the break even costs and are not profit related, but obviously with the sale of beer comes the upselling, crisps, food, entrtainment ticket revenue, peanuts the list goes on. DECLARED

namus


Joined: 23/06/2007
Posts: 65


Message Posted:
03/08/2007 13:29

Thank you Clueless, I like a good blessing.

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 143


Message Posted:
04/08/2007 00:21

HARD WORK & HARD WORK HARD WORK & HARD WORK

HARD WORK & HARD WORK HARD WORK & HARD WORK

HARD WORK & HARD WORK HARD WORK & HARD WORK

NO THANK YOU

Middle Easter


Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 20


Message Posted:
06/08/2007 05:39

Clueless, Namus - you are both half right & half wrong



Namus, although totally speculative, Clueless did include 40% for cost, as was pointed out. But you are quite right to question whether the 4 YTL was the profit on each beer, because its not.



Clueless, whilst you state a highly estimated fixed costs, you then look to balance that figure to 'break even' through the sale of 41 beers a day. But the 4 YTL itself is made up of cost & profit, not just profit.



Say cost (varibale cost) was 2YTL & profit 2YTL, 41 beers now equals 82 to 'break even', or maybe 90 (if you like a beer or 8 yourself), or maybe 120 if you actually want to make a profit.....so beware out there all you prospective bar owners, as tonyhickey says, it probably is harder work than you imagine

essentepi1


Joined: 11/08/2007
Posts: 1


Message Posted:
11/08/2007 21:40

Has anyone have any bar or restaurant to sell? I am a buyer?!! Or do you want to go to partnership? in essenteppi area? email me.

blackpoolrock


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 24


Message Posted:
28/08/2008 18:27

Im also looking for a small bar/ cafe to buy. Anyone know of any going cheaply (under £50,000) ??

dalartokat


Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 81


Message Posted:
28/08/2008 18:40

So why has this bar gone up for sale?

pilgrim



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 717


Message Posted:
28/08/2008 18:44

could be the 22dollar question

brandy sour


Joined: 09/04/2008
Posts: 90


Message Posted:
28/08/2008 18:52

Not enough people going in to keep it a float ?

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 604


Message Posted:
28/08/2008 21:15

Does this mean that mine host did not actually sign over the place and B & L are still the legal owners???????

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 231


Message Posted:
28/08/2008 22:17

by the time you pay the goverment tax you will be working for free.

mickey rourke


Joined: 27/08/2008
Posts: 14


Message Posted:
29/08/2008 05:30

If you approach any of the Brit bar owners beleive me they will sell

ripoffrock


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 28


Message Posted:
29/08/2008 06:10

Can someone clarify which bar this is. Why all the cloak and dagger stuff. You make it sound like something from a Enid Blyton novel

Lambousa Gordon


Joined: 03/11/2007
Posts: 134


Message Posted:
29/08/2008 07:30

I think, if you look at the when messages 1 - 10 were posted (that is last year), that this thread originally related to the Stumble Inn. As you are probably aware, the Stumble has since changed hands.



Blackpoolrock resurrected this thread (msg 11) a full year later with his enquiry looking for a bar/cafe to buy.

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 604


Message Posted:
29/08/2008 08:47

Oh bother!!!!!!!

slipper1


Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 132


Message Posted:
04/09/2008 20:39

better put the 240k in the bank, 18% and get urself 3500 a month interest,,,no hard work,,,,why buy a ailing bar in this island,,leave the bars to the TC ,let them do the hard work,,,,

littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 1224


Message Posted:
04/09/2008 20:43

http://www.pauljenkinssolicitors.co.uk/





you pays your money and takes your KAY

alsancakjack


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 20


Message Posted:
04/09/2008 21:10

What is your problem Nige, did you get permission to publish that e-mail address or are you yet again indulging in a passtime that you have complained of other people doing to you. Nothing like double standards my friend.

AJ

slipper1


Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 132


Message Posted:
04/09/2008 21:49

this is wat i said in another thread,,,he is the first to shout and ball at people comments, fat nige im on about,,ooopsss,sorry i mean little nige,,,sorry about the last comment,,he has real double standards problems,,,,,makes me a little sick actually,,,,,never mind,,,the dark nights are moving in very quick,,,,,somthing to look forward to i suppose!!!!!!

slipper1


Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 132


Message Posted:
04/09/2008 21:51

lapta here we go!!!!

slipper1


Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 132


Message Posted:
04/09/2008 21:57

wat do people want to come to TRNC for and go to a english theme pub,,,what a foolish little man,,,,you come to trnc to enjoy the turkish bars,the lovely turkish theme bars,,,not a stupid english theme bar with football posters everywere,and big screen tv with a few big stinking fat pot bellied beer swilling football hooligans wearing dirty old football shirts bought in thailand off the sukhumvit road,so as far as im concerned,u can slide ur english theme pub /bar/hovel, watever u care to call it,right up were the sun dont shine matey!!

slipper1


Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 132


Message Posted:
04/09/2008 21:59

hahaha,,,seating for approx 100 people,,,,have u gone stark raving mad,,,,that hovel will never see 100 people in 10 years,,keep it,,,eat it,,,ur always hungry!!!

alsancakjack


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 20


Message Posted:
04/09/2008 22:01

Slip

A man (woman?) after my own heart.

AJ

hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 61


Message Posted:
04/09/2008 22:01

Stumble Inn website for those who are interested

http://www.cypyp.com/partnerstumble.htm

slipper1


Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 132


Message Posted:
04/09/2008 22:05

cheers AJ,,glad some people like the truth!!

hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 61


Message Posted:
04/09/2008 22:06

Have to admit it doesn't seem the busiest bar on earth

slipper1


Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 132


Message Posted:
04/09/2008 22:08

14/10/06,,wow,lots of people in the bar on that day wasnt there??/ 5 or 6 including the bored bar person,,heres a good idea,big nige can buy it,,,and we will all come n support you!!!!!!!

slipper1


Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 132


Message Posted:
04/09/2008 22:10

wat do people want to come to TRNC for and go to a english theme pub,,,what a foolish little man,,,,you come to trnc to enjoy the turkish bars,the lovely turkish theme bars,,,not a stupid english theme bar with football posters everywere,and big screen tv with a few big stinking fat pot bellied beer swilling football hooligans wearing dirty old football shirts bought in thailand off the sukhumvit road,so as far as im concerned,u can slide ur english theme pub /bar/hovel, watever u care to call it,right up were the sun dont shine matey!! hokie dokie!!

alsancakjack


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 20


Message Posted:
04/09/2008 22:17

Slip, not a good idea. Running a bar and providing an airport pick-up service probably will not work. Poor old Nige has already had one accident and he was stone cold sober at the time. ;-)

AJ

hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 61


Message Posted:
04/09/2008 22:21

And what's repeating yourself yourself a sign of?

alsancakjack


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 20


Message Posted:
04/09/2008 22:31

I forgot to mention that Nige swerved to miss a dog and the dog was drunk. I think I have got that right. Sorry Nige you may be able to correct me on this one.

AJ

slipper1


Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 132


Message Posted:
04/09/2008 23:16

hahaha,,,ahhh so thats why some people call them self small and they are big n fat and full of beer,,,,i see, and cant even drive ,,,i dont know ,,,some people have all the fun,,,, wow,,,,,drinking and driving,,,,terrible,,,,,,and to think ,,,some people on here talk about other peoples crime,,,,and there nothing worse than drinking and driving,,,,,,,who was drinking and driving,,,,or driving after drink!!!!!they should be locked up,,,,,glad it wasnt my old bitch of a dog,,,,sinbas,,,,,,,yea,,my old wrinkly bitch sinbas,,,i found her and took her in,,,,poor bitch was drinking from my pool when i found her,,,,shoulda drowned the bitch,,,but felt sorry for her,,,,so not i got me self a old bitch called sinbas,,,,,,eating me outta house n bloody home!!!!!!!

slipper1


Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 132


Message Posted:
04/09/2008 23:38

hector,,,,id forgot the okie dokie.......i know,,,,silly of me, to many drunken dogs around! get under sinbas,,,,get under i said!!!!

w26kay


Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 28


Message Posted:
05/09/2008 00:06

WOW Nige... thanks for the free advertising.

x

If ever you're in need of a good divorce lawyer .....

Fluent English/Turkish speaker.

Chessman


Joined: 13/05/2008
Posts: 102


Message Posted:
05/09/2008 08:01

I cannot believe I am going to say this but I am in agreement with slipper 1's message 33! Perhaps my phraseology would be somewhat different but I share the sentiments.



However, each to one's own.

jakki


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 286


Message Posted:
05/09/2008 08:43

<<< ditto >>>

chick


Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 84


Message Posted:
05/09/2008 09:25

Slipper you are an idiot, but in saying that there is a lot of truth in what you rant.

I agree Chessman.

slipper1


Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 132


Message Posted:
05/09/2008 10:51

doreen clarke,,,,maybe i am a idiot to you,,,and yes, i speak to truthful,i say it how it is,i dont run round the olive tree,,,chasing kids,,,,,,a spade is spade,,,not a shovel,,,,thanks again mizzz doreen

slipper1


Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 132


Message Posted:
05/09/2008 10:59

is that bloody pub still for sale,,,,,cant u buy it nige,,,,,the ex pats will support u ,,,honest,!!!!!

littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 1224


Message Posted:
05/09/2008 11:12

Slipper.



I reply with a little hesitation............ I do not know you and you have chosen as is your right to not disclose any details of yourself.





1) I was asked by the previous owners ben and liv to place the post r the bar being for sale.



2)why do people want to come to TRNC for and go to a english theme pub ?



Answer because they miss a pub atmospher and there are not many if any cypriot bars as opposed to resteraunts.



3) you say ...what a foolish little man



If you refer to me then you are entitled to your opinion.



4) you say ...a stupid english theme bar with football posters everywere,and big screen tv with a few big stinking fat pot bellied beer swilling football hooligans wearing dirty old football shirts bought in thailand off the sukhumvit road



From this descripiton you have clearly not been in the place or viewed it on youtube, and fee happy insulting the customers that did go in, again you r choice.



5) The stumble was sold to a very nice man called mick .



I hope this makes things a little clearer for you and I hope you have a really nice day.

slipper1


Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 132


Message Posted:
05/09/2008 11:21

well good on mick,,,and i hope he can make a good living,,,i love a chancer and a gambler,,,he has put his money were his mouth is ,,and i hope it works for him,really! as for the pot bellied pigs,,,,i dont know if any people like that ever went in there,,i was generlising ,,think thats how u spell it,,, just for a bit of fun,,and reaction, as thats what im about,if u havent noticed,life is to serious enough as it is,so i like a little light humour from day to day,,,,hope now u dont all get to upset with my postings, as what u lot find funny i may not,,,or maybe i do?

littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 1224


Message Posted:
05/09/2008 11:24

humour is great as for spelling not a problem. Just glad I could clear things up .

slipper1


Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 132


Message Posted:
05/09/2008 11:31

u might need a shovel to clear some of the Shi_e up on here !