Is it the last chance for a solution?

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
08/11/2010 21:16

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/86ed1cd0-ea8c-11df-b28d-00144feab49a.html?ftcamp=rss#axzz14g7G7eKt

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
08/11/2010 21:17

Cyprus might slide towards formal partition if a make-or-break meeting of Greek and Turkish Cypriot leaders at the UN this month fails to find a solution to the long-running crisis, diplomats fear.



Three years after the UN began its latest attempt to broker a deal, Ban Ki-moon, the UN secretary-general, has taken the unprecedented step of summoning the leaders of the Republic of Cyprus and the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus to New York in an attempt to end the deadlock.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
08/11/2010 21:24

The talks are set for November 18. But officials in the UN and leading western governments have warned that there is a limit to how long they will back the negotiations, saying they are running out of patience with the inability of both sides to strike a deal.

Pugwash


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Message Posted:
08/11/2010 21:31

I think the real last chance happened in 2004.

newlad



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Message Posted:
08/11/2010 21:49

Bill,

This was posted yesterday matey,

Paul.

newlad



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Message Posted:
08/11/2010 21:51

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/49254.asp

jock1



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Message Posted:
08/11/2010 22:00

cmon bill get with it......

BillBarnacle


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Message Posted:
08/11/2010 22:05

I am sure that when the talks fail some bright spark will suggest that it would be a good idea to have some more talks and so on and on and on and on

newlad



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Message Posted:
08/11/2010 22:18

All over by the end of Nov Barnacle,

Paul.

andre514


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Message Posted:
08/11/2010 22:26

I have this sinking feeling that the talks will continue forever

and with the complete lack of "progress" manifest during the first two years



in future look out for phrases like "the two sides agreed to disagree",

"there will now be a period of reflection",

and "we will continue our discussions but on an informal basis"

or even,

"one thing is for sure, we all live on the same island"



rivetting stuff

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
08/11/2010 22:27

Sorry Guys - I was so taken aback with Liverpool winning )

newlad



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Message Posted:
08/11/2010 22:30

Cant see it Andre,Turkey will tell the eu to sling their hook,before you can say Jack Robinson,

Paul.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
08/11/2010 22:34

I think you could be right Paul - it's all over bar the shouting!

andre514


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Message Posted:
08/11/2010 22:42

paul,



yes probably...turkey is a proud country



but it is an intriguing question exactly how both sets of talks, eu and cyprus

will finally be put out of their misery



just think how many more burning issues the un and eurocrats need to deal with



oh well, at least one highly-respected british paper the ft

recognises cyprus exists not only for holidays, or do I mean a dog and christmas?

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
09/11/2010 14:32

Sadly, the realists are the one's amongst us that realise no progress doesn't help the cause re property, a 'real' TC rights to move freely around Europe and many more issues..





There are those who ASSume that an end to the current round of talks will mean some sort of 'benefit'.. especially for those in 'the north'



While the UN Security council Resolutions are in place - re the illegitimacy of 'TRNC' - something permanent members of the Sec Council - Russian and China - are unlikely to overturn - it will be hard for the EU to overcome legal 'road blocks' to 'reward' TCs for the Annan 'yes'

andre514


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Message Posted:
09/11/2010 21:57

I would agree with most of your comments, mark



looks like we may expect the mixture as before,

more technically "a continuation of the status quo"



...very much as I predicted over the last two years



it is nice we can agree on something, occasionaly



andre

yorgozlu



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Message Posted:
09/11/2010 22:45

mmmmmmm;



....hands up to you Mark.I never thought I'd agree with you.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
10/11/2010 03:45

re 17 Yorg



I knew you'd 'get it' in the end..



The hint has always been - * I WAS PRO A GC 'YES' TO ANNAN* ;) .. I said it was the best deal they could realistically expect and Tassos Liealotopulos is pushing up the daisies ( again!) and where is his settlement based on 'EU norms' ?!



This could all have been over nearly 6.5 years ago... TR in the EU, Varosha rebuilt, bla bla..

yorgozlu



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Message Posted:
10/11/2010 10:08

re 18,Mark;



'You knew what' I'd get in the end?



I have not changed my way of thinking just by agreeing your comments re 15.I just refuse to share them with 'third parties'.