Malatya - Rubbish Dumping Today!

smwredd


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 260

Message Posted:
11/11/2010 10:35

So far this morning seven lorries have gone to the Waterfall in Malatya to dump rubbish. They are both from Alsancak and Lapta Beledeysi and are full to overflowing with every manner of rubbish. We have taken photos of them and taken registration numbers and intend to show these to both Beledeysi. I feel that those of us living in Malatya who feel strongly about this appalling situation should get together to show a united front to the authorities. I feel sure that if enough of us approached them we could get this ongoing problem resolved. Dumping rubbish by the waterfall and especially into the ravine will cause serious problems when the rains arrive. Please let me know if you are willing to join us in a campaign to stop this practice. Would welcome a positive rather than negative responsive to this posting.

niftyduo


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 230

Message Posted:
11/11/2010 10:46

Contact yout neighbour, Marion Stuart, who as a journalist has contacts in high places. Marion helped when there was a similar problem last year along the track leading down from Malatya down to Alsancak. Rubbish was dumped on the track following the landslip and the Alsancak Belediysi sorted it out for us and cleared the track. Some of the rubbish was their own!

smwredd


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 260

Message Posted:
11/11/2010 10:54

Thank you niftyduo for suggestion, not sure how to find Marion so perhaps you could let us know. 9th lorry just gone past, dust this morning is dreadful.

ruggy


Joined: 02/05/2009
Posts: 757

Message Posted:
11/11/2010 11:02

It makes you sick people that do that. Good luck smwredd, go kick sme arz, if i lived there i'd be along side you, and if saw it happen near me i would be off to the Beledeysi as well.

flossie44


Joined: 05/03/2009
Posts: 223

Message Posted:
11/11/2010 11:05

We too have a house in Malatya above the waterfall. We were out until the middle of October and tried everything to stop the rubbish being dumped. We even had a full page spread in Cyprus Today. We contacted Marion jus tbefore we left and she said that she would pursue it. She lives in the village next to Vaughan. Someone suggested we contacted the TC papers. However our command of Turkish is not that good and we were due to leave. Anything we can do to help let us know.



Regfards,



flossie

flossie44


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Message Posted:
11/11/2010 11:06

We too have a house in Malatya above the waterfall. We were out until the middle of October and tried everything to stop the rubbish being dumped. We even had a full page spread in Cyprus Today. We contacted Marion jus tbefore we left and she said that she would pursue it. She lives in the village next to Vaughan. Someone suggested we contacted the TC papers. However our command of Turkish is not that good and we were due to leave. Anything we can do to help let us know.



Regfards,



flossie

niftyduo


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 230

Message Posted:
11/11/2010 13:52

I believe the mayor of Lapta is hot on environmental protection and, if some of the rubbish is coming from there, it might be worth pursuing that route. The number I have for Marion is 05428824313. Ramblers Holidays (thanks to the Walk & Eat North Cyprus book) have just started walking tours on the island and one of their walks is from Karaman through Ilgaz down to Alsancak which will take them passed the waterfall. They will love all the rubbish.

niftyduo


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Posts: 230

Message Posted:
11/11/2010 17:01

i noticed more wagons heading there this afternoon, Lapta wagons included.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
11/11/2010 17:13

www.northcyprusfreepress.com would be very interested in publishing an article NOW, including photos of the rubbish and the lorries dumping the rubbish. Use my Cyprus44 email address if you want to go ahead with an article. The government regularly monitor the newspaper and so will quickly become aware of the dumping.

Earlybird


Joined: 28/04/2009
Posts: 816

Message Posted:
11/11/2010 17:15

I remember years ago it was a half day excursion to see the beautiful waterfall........how times have changed!

lippylush


Joined: 29/12/2006
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
11/11/2010 23:36

Perhaps if you drive a couple of cars up to the start of the ravine road and block the entrance this might stop them tempoarily. If they can't get down the track they can't dump the rubbish. Just please let Malcolm and Wendy know what is happening as they are living full time at the end of the track in the Greatstone homes and that is the only way off the mountain.

When we were over back in June like flossie in September, we also took pictures and went to the Beledeysi with the evidence as we all have homes up there, but the dumping just continues there must be something that can be done to stop it. The local children are scavenging through the rubbish which is dangerous in itself.

I am absolutely stunned that this has been going on for at least 6 months what the bloody hell are Lapta and Alsancak Beledeysi doing to condone and actively be a party to this illegal disgusting and dangerous tipping of smelly rubbish.

sue

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
11/11/2010 23:38

lippy and recently 10 dogs were dumped there x

Maz


Joined: 29/03/2009
Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
12/11/2010 00:37

Will get Marion to try to get something mov ing, but could Lilli explain about the dogs! Were they alive or dead? And I will pass on the info.

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
12/11/2010 00:43

maz they were alive, we saw a beautiful golden lab and stopped to feed it as it was raiding the bins, with that 4 more came. in all fairness i didn't see 10 i got a phone call to tell me, I couldn't dispute it because all the dogs i fed where well looked after, collars and flea collars. we didn't wait as they were scared so we left the food and we left. I do not think my source lied to find 4 or 5 already there my guess is that its true

smwredd


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 260

Message Posted:
12/11/2010 07:51

The Alsancak and Lapta lorries continued until darkness fell. We estimated from the number of lorries and their loads that over 300 tons of rubbish has been dumped at the waterfall site. Whether more will appear today we do not know. We visited the Beledeyise during the afternoon, just took our phone number and showed little interest. Thanks for all the suggestions and offers of help received from the forum, we have followed these up and hopefully can get some action taken (maybe!).

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
12/11/2010 09:17

Confirmation pictures that the the Lapta and Alsancak Beledeysis are involved can be found at http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com/2010/11/11/lapta-and-alsancak-beledeysi-dumping-rubbish-in-a-malatya-beauty-spot/

TRNCVaughan


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Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
12/11/2010 11:51

Don't know if anyone has spoken to our new Muhktar yet - I will try at the w/end.

smwredd


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Posts: 260

Message Posted:
12/11/2010 13:51

Vaughan, We called to see her yesterday but unfortunately she was out. We will try again but maybe you will catch with her before we do.

TRNCVaughan


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Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
12/11/2010 14:08

I think she works elsewhere during the week but she is about at w/ends.

Maz


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Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
12/11/2010 23:27

I was told her husband works for Alsancak Belediye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
12/11/2010 23:35

Msg 9



malsancak



you said that the government read whats going on in the NCFP and will know about the dumping. Therefore they must know about the ongoing land/bank fiasco, but do they do anything about it?

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
13/11/2010 01:14

Disgusting but an ongoing problem , no matter where you live on the island. There are more unofficial tips than there are tourist. I wonder why?

Maz


Joined: 29/03/2009
Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
13/11/2010 17:07

Has anyone tried contacting the Environmental Group which has about 90 members and which is Turkish Cypriots concerned about the island! Head is Kenan Atakol. If Turkish Cypriots don't care, and Turks don't care, I don't think anyone is going to listen to Brits.

What do others think?

flossie44


Joined: 05/03/2009
Posts: 223

Message Posted:
14/11/2010 13:01

Maz,



I have googled Kenan Atakol and the Environmental Group but cannot find any contact details. Can you help/



I have just been reading northern Cyprus Free Press and cannot believe what has been dumped in such a beautiful spot. Have a look at the photos



The thought of having to drive past this everyday when we go out to our house makes me feel sick. I also hate feeling so helpless. At the moment I never want to see Malatya again. I used to love the place for its peace, quiet and beauty.It is being ruined by the thoughtless actions of the Beledeyise.



flossie

inigo


Joined: 23/10/2010
Posts: 50

Message Posted:
14/11/2010 13:24

I did send emails to major Turkish Newspapers ,maybe they will be interested as most of their journalists and cameramen are here to show out Bayram visitors from mainland.Hope they will be keen on to make another news here beside bayram tourism

LordJim


Joined: 12/10/2010
Posts: 221

Message Posted:
14/11/2010 13:43

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=176&uid=112796872096641



ADD YOUR COMMENTS TO FUAT NAMSOY LAPTA BELEDIYE face book page

insider


Joined: 16/11/2009
Posts: 36

Message Posted:
14/11/2010 14:51

smwredd,



' We have taken photos of them and taken registration numbers and intend to show these to both Beledeysi.'

You shold also call the Lapta police immediately.



environmental protection organization:



http://www.cekova.org/



info@cekova.org

fosterscan


Joined: 27/02/2010
Posts: 541

Message Posted:
14/11/2010 14:54

http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com/2010/11/14/aftermath-of-alsancak-and-lapta-beledeysi-rubbish-tipping-in-malatya/

How is this aloud to happen anywhere in the world in 2010.

smwredd


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 260

Message Posted:
14/11/2010 18:29

Went to see the Muhtar today. Says she has complained to the Belediyesi and they say they won't do it again. Possibly because there is no more rubbish to tip!!

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
14/11/2010 18:50

Finance Minister Ersin Tatar attended a meeting regarding the promotion of the tourism sector in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus while on his trip to Istanbul.



Well that was useful NOT

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
14/11/2010 18:59

Now i hear they the government are offering incentives to tour operators again. They never paid last time. Now someone like our DC should make maps of all the sites used for dumping.We get Lapta trucks every day.Our landlord has ben away for a year. The house is by the beach and during the summer someone came and put milatary signs up outside the wall and actually attached one to the wall.He went mad and said why didnt you stop them HELLO.

flossie44


Joined: 05/03/2009
Posts: 223

Message Posted:
14/11/2010 19:08

I have just written to the Environmental Group Cekova giving details of the Northern Cyprus Free press article. I did a translatioin on Google and it was easy to do an E Mail.



Please anyone else who is affected, do the same.



flossie

berkeh2001


Joined: 28/02/2009
Posts: 455

Message Posted:
15/11/2010 16:27

hi to everyone i am writing here on behalf of lapta municipality the lapta lorries or rubbish dump truck you have seen at malatya was actually dumped by alsancak municipality the vehicle or vehicles was on loan to alsanacak municipality. lapta municipality has nothing whatsoever to do with any fly tipping . lapta municipality takes their rubbish to dikmen wasteland . so in the future please contact us at lapta municipality before you make comments and accusations . we take fly tipping very seriously and none of our employees or any one else are allowed dump rubbish in the lapta boundaries . if you have any more questions please come and see us at lapta municipality thank you

Maz


Joined: 29/03/2009
Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
15/11/2010 23:50

Maybe it would be a good idea for Lapta to REFUSE tgo loan any lorries to Alsancak,. And maybe it would be a good idea to ask Alsancak as to the purpose of these lorries. As they are very large lorries - what did Lapta think they WOULD be used for.



So can we take it that no more Lapta lorries will be seeing dumping rubbish. That could be the easiest way to stop much of the dumping.



As to Alsancak telling the muhtar of Malatya that it won't happen again - tee, hee, hee - they said that weeks ago when someone else complained.!



So, what's to do. No one does it, no one is repsonsible, it continues to happen, promises are made that it will stop, but NOTHING changes.



Ideas?

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
16/11/2010 09:51

berkeh2001, who are you and how do you know that the lorry carrying the "Lapta" logo was being driven by an Alsancak employee? Are we next going to get someone posting here saying that Alsancak loaned their lorries to Lapta? Whoever you are, and whatever has happened, a lorry bearing the Lapta logo has been used to illegally dump rubbish, if the lorry has been loaned then I think that YOU should demand that whoever has dumped the rubbish using that lorry should clear the mess up instead of criticising those who brought this information to light.

Maz


Joined: 29/03/2009
Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
17/11/2010 00:21

Have any more lorries been seen going round there, or has everything come to a standstill because it is Bayram? Any more news on this at all?

littlejohn


Joined: 09/03/2009
Posts: 316

Message Posted:
17/11/2010 02:03

What a dreadful state of affairs !!!

smwredd


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 260

Message Posted:
17/11/2010 12:03

We have seen no more lorries to date. However, there can be very little more rubbish to dump and the Muhtar has assured us the practice will stop. Will keep an open mind on that one!

Maz


Joined: 29/03/2009
Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
18/11/2010 01:38

Thanks smwredd. But is that because it is Bayram? And as to the assurance of the muhtar, I won't hold my breath. but.... as you say, maybe there is no rubbish left. Keep us all posted.

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
18/11/2010 09:59

Mal,



Dursun has asked me to go to the Belediye with him about this. Do you want to come along and report?

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
18/11/2010 10:10

Msg 33

What a bloody cop out! Your truck; Your responsibility; Your mess, get it sorted without any lame, pass the buck excuse.

Reimbursed all those people you charged water for last year without providing a drop?!



Richard

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
18/11/2010 10:49

Would love to Vaughan, I assume that'll be on Monday because of Bayram

flossie44


Joined: 05/03/2009
Posts: 223

Message Posted:
18/11/2010 11:34

I suppose that this is a futile request but if the Belediyese agree to stop tipping I do not suppose they would remove the worst of the rubbish ie mattresses etc, that will not rot down. I can see pigs flying past.



flossie

Troodo


Joined: 12/06/2008
Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
18/11/2010 11:52

hi to everyone i am writing here on behalf of lapta municipality the lapta lorries or rubbish dump truck you have seen at malatya was actually dumped by alsancak municipality the vehicle or vehicles was on loan to alsanacak municipality. lapta municipality has nothing whatsoever to do with any fly tipping . lapta municipality takes their rubbish to dikmen wasteland . so in the future please contact us at lapta municipality before you make comments and accusations . we take fly tipping very seriously and none of our employees or any one else are allowed dump rubbish in the lapta boundaries . if you have any more questions please come and see us at lapta municipality thank you



THEN FINED OUT WHO DUMPED THE RUBISH AND MAKE THEM REMOVE IT!!!!!

DeaconB


Joined: 13/07/2010
Posts: 120

Message Posted:
18/11/2010 12:54

A box of matches could help with this problem.

smwredd


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 260

Message Posted:
18/11/2010 17:03

Having started this whole debate off, we are glad to see that most people feel as incensed as ourselves over this practice. My comment to Troodo would be to ask what he thought the lorries were going to be used for if not dumping rubbish. I have indicated to Vaughan that Peter would also be willing to come along with all the photographic evidence to show the Belediye. We do hope that some changes will be made following the stand we have taken although some cynics would probably disagree with us!

flossie44


Joined: 05/03/2009
Posts: 223

Message Posted:
18/11/2010 20:07

Sylvia I have had a response from Ian Shepherd at Cyprus Today to say that he is going to investigate the tipping again. Just an idea but why not ask him to come with you to the Beledeyise so he can hear their excuses from the horse's mouth.



flossie

Noldoyen


Joined: 18/11/2010
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
18/11/2010 20:15

at this moment the veiws of this emotive subject are @1300 surely you should all combine in a collective voice

Maz


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Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
18/11/2010 23:14

ADVICE FROM CEKOVA.





Write a letter to the Minister of Interior Ilkay Kamil and have as many people as you can find to sign it. Send also the copy of the same letter with signatures to the President, to the Prime Minister, to the Minister of Environment and to the Turkish Ambassador (He is a great environmentalist). If possible, form a committee of five to ten people and deliver the letter yourselves.



tHE ABOVE IS ADVICE AS YOU CAN SEE. MAYBE SOMEONE WHO STARTED THIS THREAD COULD CALL A MEETING, MAYBE AT THE COFFEE SHOP IN MALATYA! Going it alone is difficult, and I would have thought a group could answer Lapta workers protests better than any indijv idual. Whilst I can appreciate their potential anger at the use of their lorry, - one has to ask 'what on earth did they think it would be used for'. So, who is game for this. Also copies of the photos would be appreciated by Cekova.



Hopen this is of some help.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
19/11/2010 11:00

Maz, if Turks and Turkish Cypriots are happy to live in the toilet Malatya is becoming there is nothing foreigners can do to stop them.

Maz


Joined: 29/03/2009
Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
22/11/2010 21:40

Sio is anyone going to do anything as advised, or is Malsancak right that it is not worth usin g energy to try to get Malatya cared for?

sissy


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
23/11/2010 13:18

I find it absolutely amazing that the goverment is doing nothing about



all the rubbish lying about, and half built houses on building sites that



are just left. Yet they are trying to promote tourism, they have just to



over to the south to see the beaches etc which is kept spotless.

smwredd


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 260

Message Posted:
23/11/2010 15:21

Fortunately, we have an appointment to see the President of Alsancak Belediyse and will be accompanied by a respected local Turkish Cypriot who himself has suggested we seek a meeting to further discuss this problem.

Maz


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Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
23/11/2010 21:23

Well done, and as a matter of interest, when you say 'we' , does that mean all the folk who are concerned, or you and partner.

Maz


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Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
24/11/2010 20:53

Who is the respected Turkish Cypriot of whom you speak? For what is he respected? And do you think hye will have any influence? Also is Ian Shepherd going> Is Mal going? Anyone else going? Please post on here and tell us all how you got on and what we can do to help. Thanks.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
24/11/2010 21:09

Well, Mal hasn't been told

lippylush


Joined: 29/12/2006
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
24/11/2010 23:54

This rubbish tipping has been going on @ Malatya waterfall ravine since last March, at least 7 months ago. When we were over we took pictures of the trucks dumping the rubbish and went to the Beledysi with them and complained vrey strongly. As Flossie quite rightly states we have to drive past all this sh.t everytime we go to our homes as well as trying to navigate along the track past the tippers, it has got to stop. I just wish we were over there I would support any inititive to try and stop this. Will gladly put our names to any petition/letter in support.



Sue and Dave

Maz


Joined: 29/03/2009
Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 00:56

Why wasn't Mal told! I thought earlier in the thread it was suggested that Mal was one of the party of complainants.



As to Lippylush, maybe strong stern letters from afar will be just as effective as being in Cyprus, BUT, one has to ask to what extent the authorities listen, smile and then do nothing. Why should they listen to a bunch of foreigners when the locals say nothing!!!!

Maz


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Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
26/11/2010 00:48

So what has happened, and who is the President of Alsancak Council. I thought they had a Mayor in the shape of Mr Atakara? And again, may I ask who is the respected Turkish Cypriot who is going. I didn't know there were any Turkish Cypriots in Malatya - well, I know a couple of renters, but don't think it is them.

dying of curiosity here!

Maz


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Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
30/11/2010 23:57

Heard from a friend today that a huge lorry went through the village carrying concrete with spikes sticking out! So obviously the dumping has not stopped. (This is now the end of November!). Alsoheard that the rubbish collection site near The Black Olive is virtually empty.



So what happened with the trip to see the authorities?

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
01/12/2010 08:44

Maz, the Minister of Interior has assured everyone that this would not happen again so we all need our eyes tested!

Hippo


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Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
01/12/2010 08:55

Come on you Malatyaians-where else do the inhabitants of Alsancak get rid of thier rubbish

malsancak


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Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
01/12/2010 09:16

"What you do speaks so loud I cannot hear what you say" according to Ralph Waldo Emerson

malsancak


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 09:21

and the answer to Hippo's question is anywhere allowing them to "take that kind of crap;" to use an Americanism

Maz


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Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
02/12/2010 00:48

Just what does one do surrounded by so many smooth tongued people in authority. The honey drips from their tongues but their actions are poison.

Where is the antidote?

Or should the Malatyans hire those wonderful lorries from Lapta and take the rubbish away from the waterfall and place it outside Government buildings as a Festive Season pressie?

Or could they end up in jail as the police would be called and these nasty, unhappy people would be prosecuted for trying to restore beauty, when no one gets prosecuted for creating ugliness.



O fortuna!

malsancak


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Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
02/12/2010 09:23

Maz, that would be illegal and I'm sure the government would not tolerate illegal illegality, you know, the law breaking they don't do themselves

Maz


Joined: 29/03/2009
Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
02/12/2010 22:49

Love your sense of humour Malsancak! But where IS the answer! Or is it just a question of time before the island sinks below the waves under the weight of the rubbish and heavy lack of care? What hurts the most is the complete claptrap talk given to people. How does one learn such language to communicate effectively, AND would someone who started this all off please give us an update.

smwredd


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 260

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 09:14

We are aware that Kofali lorries and one from Alsancak were dumping at the ravine again this week. Photos have once again been sent off and as the various messages on here indicate, I am not sure we can go much further with this one. Did our best, not sure appreciated though. We cannot tar all Turkish Cypriots with the same brush as I know some that are as concerned as the rest of us. Have to admit however that there are some who are complacent about the issue.

LordJim


Joined: 12/10/2010
Posts: 221

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 09:28

GET A COUPLE OF CARS AND BLOCK THE ROAD FOR GODS SAKE IT IS NOT FLIPPING ROCKET SCIENCE !!

smwredd


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 260

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 09:33

Not sure I want a heated conversation and possibly violence with some of the drivers of those lorries! They were turning a bit agressive when we taking photos at the waterfall. However, if you want to offer your car for this purpose, please feel free!!

ianwfs


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Posts: 563

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 09:37

Has anybody been in touch with Dogan Sahir of the Green Action Group?

smwredd


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Posts: 260

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 16:36

Not yet, can you give me contact details, have sent info to Cekova though.

malsancak


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Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 17:15

The answer is for Turkish Cypriots to love the TRNC and what they do tells me that they don't. Strangely, we Brits are often accused of disrespect towards the TRNC, but only for our words, and yet it seems that the Turkish Cypriots who dump this stuff are showing the greatest disrespect for THEIR country of all. Only my opinion of course.

ianwfs


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Posts: 563

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 17:18

My contact details for him are a year or so old, so may be out of date.

dogansahir@neu.edu.tr

0533 865 5465



Hope that helps. His English is not brilliant, but passable if you don't speak Turkish.

Maz


Joined: 29/03/2009
Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
04/12/2010 23:07

Would it help for interested parties to show a solidarity in terms of signatures, visitations etc? And if so, who would be part of it.

My own personal knowledge of Malatya is that if there is any 'fault' it is with the Turks who run the place. Where is the muhtar in all this. She is new and should be keen! Any follow up form her? If not, why not? What is the role of the muhtar anyway - apart from giving signatures for residency applications.

I agree with Mal, that the Cyps need to love their own place, and the ones that I know personally certainly do - so why are they not listened to.

Please keep everyone updated baout the Green Group.

Maz


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Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
12/12/2010 22:18

Someone please give an update . Has the dumping stopped? And could someone now see that the village centre is not abused with household rubbish? It seems that householders are keen on keeping their homes clean but the exterior is of no importance. Or do I get a wrong impression from passing through the village?