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borodave


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any thoughts on the scum who burnt a poppy and chanted hate meassages against the british army. they also got a police escort through london. when it was 7/11 a group of students from sunderland burnt a copy of the koran and put it on youtube the police hunted them down and arrested them for racial hatred what is the difference



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Yes I have many thoughts but..........



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they enjoy the fruits and refuse to be assimilated

I live in the Uk and and put Britain first then my faith

that's me for the security I have enjoyed and the oportunities provided .



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ps I proudly wore my poppy, for the respect of the dead and I am a Muslim!!



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Basheer . Good for you there are many Muslims who feel the same as you, but in all walks of life there are scumbags.



Measey.



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Yesterday we saw Muslims break the two minute silence in Central London, with banners holding "British Soldiers Burn In Hell" & the burning of a poppy... If you don't like us English people paying respect for our brave fighters, then you know where the airport is. Disgusting and ...dispespectful! Copy and paste this if you're English and proud. RIP our brave fighters



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Hard to know what to say, it is provocation of the worst kind and should be treated as a crime if it is racially motivated.



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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cetGUdada8g&feature=related



disgusting and whats worse the police stood and let them bloody do it !!



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Deport them and their extended families to a country who appreciate these actions....Disgraceful



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Respect to you basheer !

Pugwash, Msg 7. Agree, Its very hard to know what to say without being called a racist?



But I will say this....

*Not all Muslim's are terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslim.*



sorry if I offend anyone....



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I'm glad it was only a poppy, for a couple of terrible seconds I thought it said puppy.



Terrible of them anyway. How would they like it if we burned the Koran or something.



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Don't even think about that Laptamike unless you wish to be Salman Rushdied.



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I wouldn't dream of it Pugwash. Got too many muslim friends who aren't radicalised. I respect their views.



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these people are the extreme muslims , they harbour terrorism yet live a day to day life in our country , most of them preaching all things wrong with the western world , they are the ones that should be rooted out and sent back to where they came from , or stoned to death ? shot ? beheaded ? but then again the do gooders would be up in arms , maybe we could cut theyre arms off ,problem solved .



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message 10



toots.



non of my irish pals are muslims



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To quote a newspaper article: "at the moment these vile Jihadists are spitting in our faces and laughing at our cowardice, while abusing the freedoms countless British Soldiers have died to defend"



Can you believe that these Muslim Extremists were given a police escort to their protest venue near the Victoria and Albert Museum in Kensington.



I'm gobsmacked. The government should hold it's head in shame for allowing this to happen.



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the government is to busy making cuts no1 , old blighty is doomed ?



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Msg 12

A good job that Salman Rushdie wasn't living in Bristol when the Fatwa was issued otherwise, had he been shot on a Street in the City, one of the locals would have said, "Hurr, I's haf tu rushde tu ospital" !



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No1Doyen (mess 16)



The TRNC Government should also hang it's head in shame for allowing so many to lose so much! the UK is a free Country with freedom of speech along with freedom for all race and religions, unlike the TRNC where ex pats cannot stand side by side with Turkish Cypriots! I too am gobsmacked that Ismet and Pauline are not allowed to stand together for fear of reprisals in a Country within Europe where it seems many are in fear to show to the world the corruption that exists within it's borders!



Pugwash


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TRNC victim, you have many threads to air your opinions, this is a thread hijack and does not work for anyone.



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These people are scum, and to disrespect our brave soldiers who risk their lives to protect us and others it makes my blood boil. In the name of what??? Religion i am happy to be a non believer. We talk of racism things like this breed racists and who can blame them.

Nick Griiffin will be rubbing his hands and putting up his BNP posters in a town near you.........



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I felt sick to my stomach when i watched this and to think that my dad and grandad both fought and risked their lives to give these scumbags the right to live in the "soft" UK.

What were the police doing there nothing as usual but i can imagine what would have happened here if anyone had of done the same when they had the silence for Ataturk.

The sad thing is that they are all big and brave but show them a uniform and they would run for their lives, they are cowards.



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Send in the SAS i would pay good money to watch that, good old UK allow people to insult and trample all over our morals and identity..............



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Teresa. The Police gave them an escort so they could carry this out!



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Pugwash (mess 20)



you also hijack threads, as many have noticed! whats sauce for the pirate is also sauce for the honest sailor!



ay ay captain I will wash the decks! and by the way "I wear my poppy with pride"



Teresa


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No1 that says it all and shows just how low the UK has become, bring back military service and then watch them run.



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I agree Teresa. Conscription will sort these thugs out.



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Might sort some of our own out at the same time win win situation if you ask me!!!!!



Tootie


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Hear is a fact...



More Ex-Falkland war soldiers have commited suicide (because/from PTS Syndrome), than the total figure of soldiers that died during the whole battle!



So what will happen in 10-15 or 20yrs time to "our" soldiers when they come back from Iraq/Afganistan ?



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The UK is too much of a soft touch, cannot believe the old bill just watched this happen & actually escorted them !!



The fact that they know they can get away with it is the real issue here ...



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message 19



TRNCvictim



Way off thread !! Read the title please



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I would think the police have some good mug shots of these scum. I do not think they will get away with it.



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These pricks who where burning the poppy would of been filmed by the agencies and everything they wanted to do would of been sanctioned from very high.

They are the home grown terroists of tomorrow.



They will be all under observation for a very long time to come,maybe its a blessing in disguise,as some of the mugs that where seen may of been new faces to the agencies watching from not to far away and filming.



These pricks you cannot deport,because the middle class folk of england who want so many human rights for every 1 makes it impossible to treat these future terroists the way we should,as we would be treated in there country if we conducted ourselves the same way.



We make a rod for our own backs.



Lilli



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Are the police now so scared of pc, jesus i have just got in and read this. i have had to find a poppy here to wear, a lovely customer supplied me with one. what they hell are we going to commemorate next, The fallen suicide bombers, be jeasus it beggars beleif xxxx



YFred


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What is the matter with everybody today? Either you are with us or against us? Is nobody allowed to disagree? what kind of freedom are we advocating. It is one thing to commemorate the soldiers who gave their life to save the west from Hitler but another to commemorate the soldiers who go 3000 miles to defend the oil companies.



These people in the streets object to their relative being killed. It is estimated there there are 1 million casualties and 3 million refugees in Iraq due to direct consequence of the war which was started on the grounds that Iraq had WOMD and could fire them in 45 minutes? What a load of crap.



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Before you start saying the the Western soldiers did not kill all the Iraqis, please bear in mind that when the Western soldiers went in, instead of capturing the arms damps, they captured the oil Ministry offices and left the arms to the insurgents. How clever is that?



Lilli



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Yfred i think we all remember those also, as many of us have loved and lost in those wars. Its not now all about the first or second wars its Falklands, iraq, afghanistan etc etc. I have lost loved ones and its our way to show our respect x



YFred


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Lilli I don't object to people paying respects, but attacking people for voicing their opinions on the grounds that they become scumbags is fascism at its best.



These people may have innocent relatives who have been killed in Iraq or Afghanistan. In a free society surely we are all allowed to demonstrate what ever our view.



If they burn a bible by all means some people can go ahead and burn the Kuran but will it solve anything?

I am not even religious, blooming heck.



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What an enlightened thread - as usual !! Well said yfred.



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Y Fred there is a time and a place and that was neither the time or the place .



good job it wasn't the other way round as 'we' cannot seem to even respect our war heros in peace



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Y Fred it was ok for Saddam Hussein to kill 1000s of innocent Kurds and it is ok for these suicide bombers to walk in an kill lots of innocent people by blowing them up in markets and places of religion. It is ok for Al Qaeda to round up innocent people and leak information that certain terrorist will be in certain places so they send our troops to kill them then the innocent men women & children get killed. My Great grandfather lost his life in the second world war so people like you can have freedom of speech and have your safe home in London. RIP all soldiers from all wars who have gave there life for a better world and kick the racist Muslims out of the UK and back to countries they chant there slogans for



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I must add how shocked I was with that U Tube video. I can only hope those 'protestors' get what they deserve. Provocation does not cover their inciting and mis-guided ranting behaviour. I fear if nothing is seen to be done at this time then it's an invitation for any kind of anti British behaviour from any group of dis-satisfied residents. How can they justify living in the UK and biting the hand that feeds them? I don't care what sect, denomination or race they are, this is an insult to the whole of the British [and its allies] population of the highest degree.



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Whilst I am on the side of the majority on this thread, that is in TOTAL SUPPORT of our troops wherever they are sent by their governmental overlords, I do take exception to message 10 :( sorry, I am BRITISH and proud, it is/was not just English troops who are/were giving their lives, please do try remember that thanks



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When you see a disrespectful act like this carried out by people of a different culture it makes every ones blood boil.The fact that the government do nothing about it and once again let it happen makes you wonder why racism is such a growing concern in the UK.

The government clamp down harshly on racism but they are the ones throwing fuel on the fire and contributing one hell of a lot to cause the problem.

If the UK government don't start to do something about these hate preachers they will have to face something far worse than racism and that I am afraid will be anarchy!!



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Now ıf Paulıne ıs fılmed carryıng a lıghted candle tomorrow at the VIgı even as an observerl SHE WILL BE ARRESTED.



dıfferent strokes for dıfferent folks!!



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For me it is not so much that these extremists have done this - much as I deplore it - because if you want a free country then this is the price you must pay.

What angers me beyond belief is that no white UK Christian citizen could get away with even a mild act of protest against a Muslim or foreigner. This 'freedom' is too one-way. The UK is no longer the country I was raised in - everybody knows their rights but nobody knows their responsibilities.

I am happier here - and if I became disenchanted with TRNC then I would move on. I would never go back.



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An absolute disgrace, this action should have been stopped and arrests made immediately. Yes, people are allowed to disagree with what is happening but they are not entitled to insult the country that is giving them the right to protest. These people should be deported as any of us would be were we to insult Islam in such a way.



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I went to Gallipoli to visit the War Graves and the respect shown by the Turkish Muslims to our war dead ( their enemies ) was to their credit.

Remember it is only a minority so dont blame all Muslims.



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Msg 40



This is not about remembering ones dead, please read the title. This is fascism at its best. Just beacuse a few Muslims objected to the poppy and burnt a few, then all Muslims get accused of being scumbags. I beg to differ. I object to the poppy because it is the smoke screen government likes to use so it can continue to send people to their death and it's alright so long as we remember them. Like hell it is.

Secondly the people who Saddam killed, please remind me who supported him, armed him to the teeth and set him on to start a war with Iran which caused another million deaths. You really need to study your history in what your government does in your name. Ignorance is not innocence. When Saddam was Gassing the Kurds who exactly supplied the gas please?

The only time Saddam became an enemy of the west was when the oil supplies were at risk not even threatened.



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Just a general point. The similarity in the behavior of people who live abroad is incredible. I though only the Cypriots suffered from this illness. The came to UK and over the years they become even more Cypriot than the Cypriots. Apparently the Brits in Cyprus also suffer from equivalent illness. Perhaps it is a Cyprus curse, I am so glad I was able to defeat the damn thing and washed away all nationalism from my body.



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Out of control immigration policies,unregulated freedom to protest..Insults to the country which gave them a home....................Just as Enoch Powell predicted so many "MOON's" ago.....RIP



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Aussies don't mince words





One thing about blokes from Oz is that their hearts and humour are always in the right place!



T B. Bechtel, a City Councillor from Newcastle, Australia, was asked on a local live radio talk show, just what he thought about the allegations of torture of suspected terrorists.



His reply prompted his ejection from the studio, but to thunderous applause from the audience.



HIS STATEMENT:



'If hooking up one raghead terrorist prisoner's testicles to a car battery to get the truth out of the lying little camelshagger will save just one Australian life, then I have only three things to say,'



'Red is positive,

Black is negative, and

Make sure his nuts are wet.'



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I think it sums up why so many of us left the UK in the first place, I agree with Zerochlor the UK has too many people preaching human rights, if they don't like the UK then f.... .....! the same applies to any country, if you don't like it leave! I am sure most of the police that had to escort these animals were not happy about it but they probably had no choice, several of my family members have left the police force for this reason.



The lunatics have taken over the asylum!!!!



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Isn't it strange that all the immigrants at Calais wanting to come to Britain are Afghan and Iraqis. I wonder why? Do people have no conscience left? I see I am alright jack mentality is so alive and well.



As to the fan of Enoch Powell, I am lost for words. You sir are a fascist through and through. Just remind me where the rivers of blood are again. Is it Birmingham or Baghdad or even Kabul? How many black racist killings have their been compared to white racist killings? I wonder if you know who Kelso Cochrane is? May he rest in peace.



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Kelso Cochrane was an immigrant fro m Antigua who was stabbed in Notting Hill in 1959. I also remember the Rivers of Blood speech by Enoch Powell but every word he said has become true, and his constituency was Smallwood in Birmingham which was mostly ethnic minorities. What you will find is more White people in the UK will turn to the BNP if something is not done about the racism against the white UK residents. I also remember the Krays and the Great Train robbery and look what prison sentences they got. Racism works both ways and what happened with these Muslims on Thursday was racism and they should have been arrested and charged as i know if the boot had been on the other foot it is a certainty that if it had been white protesters they would have been. Britain needs to take a tough line with Muslims and if that makes me a racist well so be it



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All immigrants at Calais due to wanting to free load when they get to the UK, its pretty obvious. My grandparents were immigrants to the UK, they would never have a word said against England, had a picture of the queen on their wall and looked at the UK as a safe heaven that they would be eternally grateful to for giving them a place to live. There were no handouts in those days, no free housing, no benefits, they worked and contributed. That's not so with SOME of the new immigrants, I cannot believe if they are coming to the UK because they are in fear of their lives in their own country why they would not be so thankful for a safe place to live.



Its nothing to to with I'm alright jack its about values and unfortunately Britain is having these values erased by the likes of these people chanting hatred towards the very country that have given them a home.



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My word what a balanced view of life you have. What an insult to mankind. The fact that the western alliance has knocked the shit of these people in their country has no bearing that they wish immigrate. Did you actually read the post? Why are they all Iraqi and Afghani?

Please answer that.



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One word sums them up SCUM



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i was shocked for around 5 whole seconds . then i realised it said poppy and not puppy doh ..xx



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trat em like the pakistanis treat christians there are loads of lamp posts in london.



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Can't be bothered to read all the posts - but addressing the yobs who burned the poppies, they say they will continue to do so - until Sharia law obtains in England. It already does to a degree already - due to this pathetic country having the guts and bravado and strength of a dead lion - all three males comes from priviledged backgrounds, with (they say) moderate Moslem parents - yet they themselves, are devotees of polemicists who want to see all women subjugated, demeaned, belittled, and illiterate. I simply do not understand how so many English women are turning to Islam; covering themselves (NO-WHERE in the Q'ran does it require a woman to be covered) and will never understand these yobs coming from moderate families, ending up extremists and whilst using all this country has to give them, abusing our democratic society to their own heinous ends.



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oh how bad i remember it so well



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well, let you guys into a little secret. muslims against crusades aka al mujaharoon are a splinter group of Hizb ut tharir. They are a political organisation with the aim to establish a caliphate in the muslim world. Part of the plan to overthrow the muslim rulers and install a hizbi/al mujaharoon caliphate is to get the millions of muslims in the west to leave the west, establish themselves in the muslim world and help overthrow the saudi/kuwaiti/pakistani/turkish government etc (they are are banned in all these countries)



so what has this got to do with poppy burning? Every demonstration they have is provactive, it is meant to make life difficult for the muslims in the west, so they leave. They figured that the only way to make muslims leave is to facilitate muslim persecution in the west. A bit like the zionist planting of bombs in iraqi synagogues to scare Jews into leaving arabia to help prop up Israel.



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but also would like to add, that recently a letter from ex servicemen, was sent to the government complaining that the armistace day is no longer about reflection of the brutality of war, and remembering the fallen heros in ww1 and ww2. But has become a forme of jingolistic encouragement for the unjust wars in afghanistan.

It is a national shame , that politicians should hijack such a day and institution as a means of propganda for their foreign policy.



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A very interesting posting, 'anlusan' - thank you!



So often there is a 'hidden agenda'............. !!!



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