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gazza


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20/11/2010 12:03

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hi all .



does anyone know if the first stone has been put down for the new proposed wonderland in guzelyurt nc yet, thought it was going to be early november.or was this somebody putting out feelers to see what reaction it would bring.



regards gazza.



negativenick


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Guzelyut - so good they named it twice...............



gazza


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hi all.

just wondered if that first stone or brick has been put down yet on the new wonderland site in guzulyurt or maybe guzelyut as nn seems to know the the correct spelling maybe he knows the answer.



cheers gazza



Stonehousepub


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23/11/2010 22:57

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As far as I am aware it has been postponed, do not know no the reason. All investors involved were allegedly at the site last week according to local newspapers..



Lilli



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23/11/2010 23:01

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surprised or what x was it part of cratos



martinD41


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23/11/2010 23:25

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I think a little bit of basic infrastructure should come first ................... You know the sort of thing ,,Water ,reliable electric supply ,proper sanitation, etc..unlike Cratos..



Linus


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24/11/2010 20:35

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There has been nothing reported in the press about any postponement. Is this just a rumour



Stonehousepub


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24/11/2010 21:06

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The story was in the KIBRIS NEWSPAPER about 10days ago.



Troodo


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24/11/2010 23:22

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Government change the deal at the last, as usual, investors not happy - another bullet in the foot.



Pugwash


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24/11/2010 23:29

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Hardly a bullet in the foot, the whole thing was ridiculous and not thought through.



Tenakoutou



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25/11/2010 11:38

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Such a project would surely depend on location, location, and location, in order to be commercially viable - that location is very unlikely to be Guzelyurt!



Pugwash


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Or even Cyprus



Tenakoutou



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You said it, Pugwash - saved me a job!!!



Lambousa Gordon


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Actually Cyprus is an ideal location for this type of project.



It has two months more sunshine operating time than even Southern Turkey, but avoids African and Arab heat.



It is politically secure and comparatively petty-crime free: ie you're not going to lose 90% of this year's trade because the muslim brothers have decided to expel infidels or because some likely lads car-jacked Jack and Jacqueline Tourist.



ianwfs


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25/11/2010 14:29

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Well said Gordon. Additionally I'd say that the location, which is a few miles west of Guzelyurt, is a good one. It's in an area of planned development for tourism. With the new dual carriageway, it's only about an hour from Nicosia and Kyrena. Also with the new crossing point, and the proposed Lefke crossing, it's just a little longer from the tourist areas of Paphos and Polis (a journey that could be reduced by half an hour if the road through Erinkoy is opened). It would therefore attract spending from tourists who might otherwise spend their money in the south.



Stonehousepub


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26/11/2010 00:33

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Yes very well said Gordon...



With people like Pugwash & Tenakoutou who needs Greeks !! Slating Cyprus off as if it's a piece of crap !!



Why not Cyprus ??



Tenakoutou



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I am sure that the first person that potential investors will be calling on for a project viability assessment study and report will be 'Stonehousepub'!



At no time have I ever been 'Slating Cyprus off as if it's a piece of crap !!' - however, I freely admit to criticising, along with so many others - TC's included, the very urgent matters that are blighting the country's reputation abroad and stifling any prospect of a turnaround of decreasing tourism and property buyers.



Get real, 'Stonehousepub'!



cyprusairsoft



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26/11/2010 18:06

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lets all go for a tram ride in girne to cool down



Pugwash


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Yeah right, stonehousepub and all, no infrastructure, no other real reasons to come, too hot in the summer months etc etc,



I Love it here for its real worldliness and would not want a stupid "theme" park to come and spoil it, if that is what you want then you will be the losers believe me.



Anyway as I am sure you are aware it will not be a "real" theme park al la Disney world or even Ferrari world it will be a pathetic third rate rubbish world whether in the South or North, do you want that?



A properly thought out one with a plan for everything needed would be a different proposal, however surely that will not be in the current circumstances.



deputydawg


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26/11/2010 21:14

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Forget the tram just extend the pie in the sky cable car from St Hilarian to the Harbour.



Bradus


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26/11/2010 21:35

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Thought this might be helpful.



http://www.nubricks.com/archives/1696/mediterranean-disneyland-coming-to-cyprus/



Stonehousepub


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message 17



Call it what you wish, I call it "slating off" which is what you seem to do on each and every relevent thread.



WHY ?



For an unknown state which has had to start from scratch in 1974 and is still under "ceasefire" status we hav'nt done that bad. I resent the fact that people like you & pugwash continue to constantly put down this country without taking into consideration its true satus within the world.



Unfortunately I am not qualified to asses or advise potential investors regards their potential projects within Cyprus. But I certainly hope they do not bump into you the likes of you and your pathetic one man campaign!!



Stonehousepub


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pugwash



In your words how would "a stupid theme park" spoil a european island in the middle of the med ?



It would provide employment, entertainment, worldwide media coverage, national income and a place to take children for an enjoyable day out. It's called progress.... & if it does happen I for one will see it as a major plus point for the whole island.



Not everyone on this island is at retirement age...



Bradus


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message23



I would love to see this type of development in the TRNC. Not that I am a fan of theme parks but as you rightly suggest it would benefit the residents, providing much needed jobs and income, as well as promoting the tourist industry.



But we have to be sensible and examine just how realistic this proposal would be? With no hope of an end to the CYP problem and land still remaining in dispute, who would seriously consider building a theme park, requiring a substantial investment on such land? With the whole of the Med to chose from why pick somewhere with such uncertainty?



The price of flights, especially if we are targeting families, would limit demand.

The rest of the Med having access to many cheap airlines and less flying time. Price /flight times would be comparable with Florida, so why not see the "real thing" with so many more attractions also on offer.



Finally the aspect of confidence in the construction industry would have an negative impact.



Bradus


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In short, it really would not be the most attractive option. Most business people would surely begin by looking at resorts that are known to already attract a large tourist trade, not a resort where tourist are few.



Tenakoutou



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27/11/2010 08:49

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Of course, you are absolutely right in your assessment of the overall situation, 'Bradus' - but, if anyone should voice a negative opinion towards such grandiose plans, naturally they can expect to be insulted by certain blinkered and ignorant patriots!



Lambousa Gordon


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Re Msg 24 & 25:



The land set aside for this project is in Gazveren; a village that pre-1974 was 100% Turkish Cypriot. There would be no uncerainty thereto.



From your thoughts regarding flights it seems that you presume the project has as its main target-markets Western Europeans. It does not. The main target markets are Eastern Europe, Russia, Turkey, the CIS states, the Middle-East and countries of the Levant.



Your comment re confidence in the construction industry is completely irrelevant to a project such as this.





Re Msg 26: constructive well-thought criticism is to be welcomed; pavlovian responses are merely tiresome.



Troodo


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A primary school in Lefke is to build a nuclear reactor to produce weapons grade uranium. A spokesperson stated, ’This is an attempt to justify the embargos placed on the TRNC by the international community. This action is taken by the peace loving peoples of our state to combat the aggression of North Korea and Iran who are having to consider further action to compete with our status at the UN and the EU.

Anyone with spare Lego should deposit it in the receptacles provided in the village.



Bradus


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Message 27



"The main target markets are Eastern Europe, Russia, Turkey, the CIS states, the Middle-East and countries of the Levant"



True, but what is the relevance? They would still have to fly into Turkey rather than having direct flights to Larnaca.The areas you have identified have cheap and fairly frequent flights to the ROC and this simply makes it a better business proposition. I note that the developers and the Roc are hoping to secure EU funding for this project. Widespread publicity is suggesting that the theme park will be built in Larnaca to take advantage of the "new marina" and visiting cruise ships and the extended airport facilities.



It is to have a Greek theme!

It will be built in the South, if it goes ahead.



Bradus


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27/11/2010 15:21

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From Cyprus Mail



The general theme of the park will be inspired by Greek mythology and the history of Cyprus and this will be reflected in the various rides on offer. The name chosen for the project, “Pygmalion and Galatea”, is also taken from Greek mythology.



There are many difficulties to overcome before the project can be given the go ahead. Contacts have already been made with the interested parties including the UN, the government and the two mayors of Pyla; it appears possible that many of these obstacles can be overcome.



However, if the difficulties prove to be too great, there is a ‘Plan B’ for the construction of the park on state-owned land at another location.



The other location is Paphos.



Tenakoutou



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27/11/2010 17:49

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I had it on good authoriy, that much of the GC 'state-owned' land in Paphos District was, or is, actually, TC, or Ottoman owned. Take the Paphos football stadium - it's built on TC titled land.



Tenakoutou



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Lambousa Gordon/Msg 27: '....pavlovian responses are merely tiresome.'



I am wondering if you mean 'pavonine' - as 'Pavlova' [cake] is one of New Zealand's culinary delights?



Pugwash


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I think Tenakoutou that he is referring to Pavlov and his dog.



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