I'm more worried about the potential for a world crisis from Korea

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
23/11/2010 11:35

Shells being fired .. ultimatums and threats issued



This will make a recession, bailouts and CY talks at the UN pretty irrelevant :(



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11818005

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
23/11/2010 13:13

They are two volatile countries waiting to 'kick-off' big time.

BrightonJim


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Message Posted:
23/11/2010 14:00

South Korea is not volatile

YFred


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Message Posted:
23/11/2010 14:11

Isn't it time the west stopped interfering in the Korean peninsula. When an old emperial state pokes its nose where it does not belong, what do you expect.

What is there to worry about. The North will take over the south and the whole of Korea will become under the chinese influence just like the rest of the world is under US influence. Big wow, what a loss to the west. It's not as if the south is any more democratic then the north.

LOvegod


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Message Posted:
23/11/2010 14:49

exactly yfred the last time they tried to intimidate the north the yanks sent a fleet to the area n.korea said no worry ,withdraw or we nuke u. worked . the yanks left ha

martinD41


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Message Posted:
23/11/2010 14:49

YFred. I think you mean the rest of the Western World is under US dominance...but I agree with your post......

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
23/11/2010 14:55

Since the demise of the Soviet Union, the threat from nuclear proliferation and the use of a device as a terrorist weapon has grown, not decreased.

Mutually assured destruction (MAD) ensured that neither NATO nor the Warsaw Pact kicked-off first. The Russians might have been lots of things, but stupid wasn't one of them.

hollie


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Message Posted:
23/11/2010 18:00

I'm not worried by the Korean border dispute, its simply a matter of posturing by the North. NK have been isolated from the six party talks primarily because they refuse to adhere to any nuclear regulation and furthermore Kim Jong Il, is bat shit loco and flying through the crazy jungle. This recent flair up is a reaction to that..... a "look at us" tactic... A clumsy attempt to shoehorn themselves back into the fore!!



China although a "supporter" of NK will never allow them to or support them in any nuclear action or otherwise...

In a fortnight this will be old news and we wont hear anything about Korea again for another few months...



I hope

deputydawg


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Message Posted:
23/11/2010 18:28

Holllie, in either event you will not hear it, especially at ground zero !

andy-f


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Message Posted:
23/11/2010 20:00

might be a good idea for the americans to use this escelation as an excuse to destroy their nuclear facillitys . they reckon they are the most likely to use an atomic weapon first so why wait ?

Tenakoutou



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Message Posted:
23/11/2010 20:04

andy-f/Msg 10:



That's fighting talk!!!

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
23/11/2010 20:14

Yfred



re msg4



>>Isn't it time the west stopped interfering in the Korean peninsula. When an old emperial state pokes its nose where it does not belong, what do you expect. <<



Actually, 'it' is most welcome - as was the help of other allies....last time.. China isn't going to be quite so supportive, now..and CERTAINLY not Russia - who enjoy VERY good relations with S Korea..



>>What is there to worry about. The North will take over the south and the whole of Korea will become under the chinese influence just like the rest of the world is under US influence. Big wow, what a loss to the west. It's not as if the south is any more democratic then the north.Isn't it time the west stopped interfering in the Korean peninsula. When an old emperial state pokes its nose where it does not belong, what do you expect. <<



Eh, have you BEEN to S.Korea...? It is pretty clear you haven't

andy-f


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Message Posted:
23/11/2010 20:58

tenakoutou " thats fighting talk " all the major powers sitting on their fat arses doing nothing while north korea and iran build a neclear offensive device is a recipy for disaster , make no mistake north korea would use it if provoked without thinking of the cosequences .



also a "proper shooting war" far away from our shores may be a quick fix from the world finacial problems .

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
24/11/2010 03:03

Re msg 13



>>also a "proper shooting war" far away from our shores may be a quick fix from the world finacial problems <<



Andy



If you have a pension fund, don't look at share prices as a result of today's news..:(

anlusan


Joined: 22/07/2010
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
24/11/2010 03:53

yfred got it spot on

doesn't matter how economically advanced south korea is, china pulls the shots in that part of the world, and if south korea go to war with north korea, then it will just hasten chinas control over south korea.



simples

fukace


Joined: 18/11/2010
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Message Posted:
24/11/2010 15:14

its seoul destroying all this talk of war

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
24/11/2010 15:32

re 16



yawn - another 'new' poster with a very droll ( and familiar) posting style.

gromit


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Message Posted:
24/11/2010 15:50

mark



"If you have a pension fund, don't look at share prices as a result of today's news..:( "



Stop being a big girls blouse!



Markets are bouncing back today, the DOW is expected to rise when it opens soon, even the Seoul Market was practically unchanged overnight.



The Irish situation is having far more effect on markets.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
24/11/2010 17:23

Hi Gromit



'bouncing back'.. Korea went down yesterday and down today.. not by as much as one might expect by downwards all the same ..



The 'western markets' have yet to 'bounce back' to cover (my) losses of yesterday :(

gromit


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Message Posted:
24/11/2010 17:40

mark



So you're only interested in your own 'position', not that of world tensions?



Daily Market movements have very little effect on Pensions or Funds as they are usually cost averaged.



If you have a SIPP, of course you can pay the fees and switch investments as often as you like.

gromit


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Message Posted:
24/11/2010 18:34

mark



As I predicted, the Dow, Nasdaq, FTSE, CAC, DAX etc are all up nicely now!



You should be back in the money!

tracer


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Message Posted:
25/11/2010 21:45

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40372439/ns/world_news-asiapacific/

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
25/11/2010 21:53

Dear gromit



re 21



another 'good' day ? ;)

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
25/11/2010 22:07

Looking at Korean Air flight prices, they seem to be very competitive in their prices to travel to NZ for the next World Cup, October next year. Flew with them last January and they were good.



Richard

ilovecyprus


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Message Posted:
25/11/2010 22:31

It seems to me that North Korea poses a real threat. Unlike the Soviets who could gain the worlds respect through it's sporting achievements and space technology, North Korea can only gain significance through military sparring. It could go too far.

Only China can bring it to heal, however China would see a United Korea as a significant economic threat to it's ultimate dominance, so it is probably happy to see North Korea torment it's neighbour.



South Korea probably have the best educated kids in the world especially in technology. Some of the greatest breakthroughs to come may be developed by a Korean kid (s). I suspect they do not want to be become part of China.



I bet the South Koreans are damn thankful that they can call upon the United States for help. Without a US military presence, and with Chinas approval the North would surely have invaded by now. Korea would be one big killing field with the majority of Koreans living in poverty, not just the North.

tracer


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Message Posted:
28/11/2010 09:13

is that just a game?



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40390864/ns/world_news-asiapacific/

andre514


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Message Posted:
28/11/2010 12:56

message 1:



readers! the cyprus talks were irrelevant long before the balloon went up in s.korea



why?



simply because the two sides' objectives are contradictory and there is no consensus

also, because turkey will not be blackmailed by the eu... even if blackballed by france



but mark, you know that better than me because you are comparitively well-informed



andre

andre514


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Message Posted:
28/11/2010 23:55

mark, hope you don't think I am having a go

and your thread is about a very serious business,

yes trouble in korea could blow us all to kingdom come

but let's sincerely hope not



and yet... by putting this towering menace in correct

perspective, at last, to the the pisspoor cyprus talks,

could it be you yourself as well as the negociating teams

are looking for an "exit strategy" too?



when you pasted up that article suggesting the the un

"blames" both sides for a lack of progress,

I wondered if you yourself need a face-saving alibi?



after all it has been me that always suggested that

however desirable unification of the communities was,

the facts on the ground suggest the idea is untenable



and mark you were the one who manifested great optimism

or if not, at least feigned enthusiasm, for the whole charade



...so may it not be about time you "came out" as a sceptic?



andre