Is this what this forum is all about ?

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 13:21

Can I ask why it is that some posters on this forum feel the need to be abusive and insulting to others just because those others may have a different opinion about things. We are all individuals and are entitled to express our own opinions yet there are certainly a couple of members on this board who regularly come out with personal and nasty insults to people who disagree with them. All it does it to stop people from posting for fear of being attacked or ridiculed, is that what the board is all about, perhaps the mods could keep an eye on this and have a quiet word with the worst offenders for the sake of other members.

StGeorgeI


Joined: 27/08/2009
Posts: 973

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 13:28

You will always get people like that Hatti - it's easy to hide behind a fake name and a keyboard!!



Just ignore them and eventually they go away - in the mean time the Mods should do their Job...



G

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 13:37

I always remember that song when I get attacked ' Never give up on a good thing ' ))





sometimes we have to change a little and adapt ourselves even on this forum..









Spider,X

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 13:40

I have no intention of giving up Spider, but I do think some people need to lighten up and not try to bully others in to thinking the same way as them.

jamestalbot


Joined: 20/12/2009
Posts: 957

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 13:42

Hatti I agree with you, I have myself been the recipient of personal and nasty insults, which resulted in me not posting or replying to posts for fear of being verbally attacked by these people.



I don't hide behind a fake name, my name is plain to see, your right also that we are all entitled to our opinions, unfortunately some people on this forum think because they don't agree with what you say, that you are open for attack from them.



I am sure there are people that are reluctant to post because of these people, so mods please try to keep an eye on the situation.



Regards James

PaulW



Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 651

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 13:45

Carol I'm just waiting for one of the idiots who do this to start on this thread.......... or perhaps they have not had enough to drink yet.

jamestalbot


Joined: 20/12/2009
Posts: 957

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 13:52

paulW I agree with you I also think these idiots don't post until they are tanked up, it is the only reason I can find for their behaviour.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 13:53

Or it could be their superiority complex that causes the problem, whatever it is it gets very tedious.

Ailletoo


Joined: 24/01/2009
Posts: 1003

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 13:54

Hatti,



Don't let them get to you, if you do, they win. Ignore them. Most of them need to take up a hobby or something. This forum can be quite useful at times with good information being exchanged between the less deranged posters. ;-)

gromit


Joined: 28/10/2010
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 14:03

hattikins



It's not just this forum.



I use a number of forums on different subjects and have noticed a worrying increase in vitriol on all of them during the last couple of years.



As to what the reason is I'm not sure. Recession, inflation, worries over our futures? They may all be contributory, or maybe it's the potential anonymity of the internet ?





As Basil Brush once said,.... 'The future isn't what it used to be'.

vonny


Joined: 25/06/2009
Posts: 476

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 14:28

i think these kind of people would.nt say boo to a goose in the real world.they probably have a low opinion of themselves and not too good at holding conversations but admire others that can.Hiding behind their pc under a different name probably makes them feel tough.They get a buzz out of it.

frontalman



Joined: 28/02/2008
Posts: 499

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 15:21

I think you've hit the nail on the head, yonny

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 16:26

There's only one way to deal such despicable behaviour - it's called an 'ON/OFF' mains switch - or, 'BATTERY EJECT' in the case of a laptop!

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 16:58

As gromit said it is a trend everywhere even on the gardening boards I am a member of

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 17:02

Hattikins. Can you point me in the right direction of the offender.

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 18:03

I think I was attacked once, not so long ago but I can't remember any names because I hold no grudges. Somebody had started a new thread complaining about somebody. Based on the original message I condemned the person who was actually complaining. Somebody stated support for my condemnation but later apologized because she had relied on some other facts proved wrong. My reasons for condemnation were totally different and they were not changed and I held my position. Then there was a barrage of insults towards me for not apologizing like the other lady. Of course I did not because I had no reason for it. Unfortunately we all have to endure these bullies occasionally.

ismet

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 18:12

I remember the thread Ismet. You did not come out of it very well!

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 18:26

I have all but given up on this board because of the hijackers and bullies.

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 18:38

There seem to be 3 major rules on this forum,and hundreds of lesser ones........



1. Never voice an opinion

2. Never say "I Think"

3. Never make any spolling mustakes..





Other than that your OK...have fun....

Glasbury


Joined: 13/08/2010
Posts: 268

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 18:39

LaptaMike - Just ignore them all - don't let it get you down - life's too short to worry about stuff like that.

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 18:41

so true martin. Sometimes you post something and then after the barrage of insults think why do you bother.

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 18:43

Glasbury thanks for the encouragement, our above posts happened at the same time

LordJim


Joined: 12/10/2010
Posts: 221

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 18:50

fro the moment izzet gave the forum over to the wise men and woman it was doomed there is little if any communication between the group no common ground or set procedure on how to deal with wrong doers and no even hadedness when dealing with violators of the rules .



hence chaos rules. and cyber bullies thrive on cyprus 44



the eu will soon put paid to rule 12. There is NO Account Cancellation then watch the membership dive on here.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 18:54

RE msg 21, LaptaMike: (...) Sometimes you post something and then after the barrage of insults think why do you bother. (...)

=> Mike, don't give in to the "creative" bunch waiting for any new post to spit on. They are not on the same level as you, so they cannot insult you. Keep posting!

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 19:12

If it is of any consolation we are starting to weed out the trouble makers and those that have been 'yellow carded' will receive a ban without warning if they they do not comply with board rules.

It is correct that most transgressions take place in the evening and late at night. In the daytime the board virtually runs itself. There are a few that have been banned lately for prolific bad language and on one particular occasion there was one member that up until now had posted acceptable messages but late the other night/early morning he/she decided to pepper at least 5/6 different threads with foul language.

None of the Forum Admin can monitor every thread and postings within those threads. We quite often rely on e-mails from those that are upset/annoyed over certain threads/postings and if we do not pick up on these trouble makers straight away then please e-mail us at forumadmins@cyprus44.com

AJ

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 19:23

msg 24, Hans. Cheers mate. I might be going to the dark side next week so I'll get you that duck if they have any in. Bells are doing whole ducks and also two duck breasts in a pack aswell.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 21:13

LaptaMike. Don't stop posting. As AJ has said we are on a mission to rid ourselves of the troublemakers and make no mistake they will be banned for life.

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 22:42

Bill, thanks for your support. I really do hope you get it sorted before I loose the will to post on here anymore. It is terrible now. I have people slagging off every post I make because of the sausagegate scandal. I wish people would just be polite even if it is to complain about something someone has said.

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 23:36

Unfortunately it is easy to be brave and anonymous behind a computer screen - and I sympathize with the administrators and a hard job that they have to police this!

I have often found that late at night... fuelled...people are often more brave...

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 23:37

Peter, thats very true.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 23:40

Blackie i have met very many posters . When I see them they are so lovely. Most come to meet Lilli and tell me their names but a lot dont. You get to know and when I read what they write Im shocked. Little clues give them away. xxxxxxx

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 23:42

So Lilli...........you know???? lol

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 23:45

blackie more than i let on love, hows wales miss it so much xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx you know i have to be the three wise monkeys see it , hear it and stat stum

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 23:49

Right now Lilli Wales is bloody freezing - it must be -2 or 3 degrees!!!

Much better there I suppose.

So, maybe you should make a list.... some good....some not so???? I hope I'm on the god one?

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 23:50

Crap typist Lilli - I meant to say I hope I am on the good one..........

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 23:51

Msg 25

Okay, I plead guilty of this most vile crime and should be banished to an area of the World where my transgressions will not hurt a soul and will be in full penance!

All donations will be gratefully received for my 'one-way' ticket!



Richard

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
25/11/2010 23:54

blackie you are not on my black list. Have you got snow. Nice here day time nights blody cold. Its a really lovey temp in the day so relaxed, come 3.30 it drops by half. So quiet also its a ghost town., missing the lights etc. sad tonight xxxx

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
26/11/2010 00:23

No snow here Lilli...yet...just bloody freezing outside. Got the log burner fired up so nice and snug!

Why sad tonight?

Maz


Joined: 29/03/2009
Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
26/11/2010 00:44

I have it on good authority that West Wales this morning was below freezing with a white frost covering everything. The back roads were a bit scary and the motorways virtually clear. Beautiful, I understand to be seen from the inside of a car or a house, but freezing one's fingers to the bone. The weather forecast shows the snow to be confined to Scotland and Suffolk, but who knows what may come by the sweek-end.

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
26/11/2010 00:49

Oh yea Maz it as freezing his morning - and we are in North East Wales - and it is now.

Bloody cold here all day. Log burner stocked up so nice a warm now!

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
26/11/2010 01:24

I cannot believe how some posters on here decide to gang up in the most play ground fashion. Grown up folk who blatently discuss plan of actions at local watering holes on how to gang up and attack others on this forum.

These obnoxious posters do not stop there they then continue to post under double identities and then feel self satisfied go to bed with a smirk on their face

.

Personally I an a great believer in what goes round comes round, so any one who is on the receiving end from these pathetic little posters just sit back, let the pathetic burn themselves out !!

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
26/11/2010 09:27

Nice to see that a couple of the posters I was referring to have posted on this thread, obviously a case of " none so blind as he who cannot see" !

musdi


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 19

Message Posted:
26/11/2010 10:09

Totally agree with you. I think the form can be more constructive . We must not forget where we all are living , and what we are facing in our everyday life's.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
26/11/2010 10:22

RE msg 1 and 42, hattikins: In msg 15 moderator No1Doyen asked you a very straight question, I quote: "Hattikins. Can you point me in the right direction of the offender."

Why don't you do that including some recent abusive or insulting examples? What is the use of posts with only accusations (msg 1) and insinuations (msg 42)?

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
26/11/2010 10:27

So you are capable of knowing who I have or have not emailed are you? I would appreciate it if you would occupy yourself with your business and not mine.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
26/11/2010 10:48

RE msg 45, hattikins: Typical you. You write messages on a public forum and then tell readers/writers to mind their own business. It makes your posts not very credible (to remain polite).

dalartokat


Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 734

Message Posted:
26/11/2010 10:53

With all due respect Hattikins, I've read your 1st posting this morning(UK) and sat here wondering what has gone on. I know you and DC don't see eye to eye but in this case I think he is correct in asking to give examples.



Personally I think it is time for naming and shaming with an e mail to moderators giving the reason why someone has had to do this. Its nearly every thread started someone comes on causing arguments or sways away from what is being discussed which is also annoying. In the middle of a thread someone will ask how someone is and you get the low down of a weather forecast or private conversations that no one else understands.



I also believe some people are quick to jump without reading postings accurately or fully understanding what has been written or prepared to listen to other points of view. Hattikins, your message 45 to DC surely could have just said that you have e mailed your concerns instead of jumping down his throat.

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
26/11/2010 10:57

This 'syndrome' to put it into context is something that has been known about for years and has been included in teaching adults.

When people are on their computers they are sitting safely in their own living room/home in comfort away from the world and their thinking mechanisms switch. They talk/write as they normally would in their own home safe and secure in the knowledge that they can do that. If they are in a public place with the other person in front of them - they are not be so rude/objectionable as they know their will be responses which they might not be able to deal with face to face.

This happens a lot if Customer Service, particularly when customers are making complaints by phone - their attitude is totally difference when on the phone in the comfort of their own home to when they are dealing with the person face to face.

dalartokat


Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 734

Message Posted:
26/11/2010 11:02

Message 48, very true.

cypgab


Joined: 09/01/2010
Posts: 338

Message Posted:
26/11/2010 11:17

Message 16.



As I see it Elko you refused to admit you were wrong in that case.



Message 17.



Captures it completely.





Elko, you do a lot of good work and I commend you for it but we all make mistakes.

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
26/11/2010 11:33

Sitting behind computers and posting nonsense is one thing, I think we can all put up with that as we have to choices do not respond or stand your ground.

However when the poster then threatens violence or tells deliberate lies and appears to hound someone then it becomes more serious.



Serious for the actual threatening poster whomake these threats In my opinion only in the minority thank goodness, however he/she defiantly has a biggest problem and that is with them selves and not the ones they are threatening.

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
26/11/2010 11:47

Ooops spelling sorry should have said two not to !!!

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
26/11/2010 11:55

Message 47,

I don't think I did jump down anyones throat and I have no intention of getting in to a slanging match with DC, I just don't think it has anything to do with him who I email or what I include in the emails.

Incidentally what would be the point in naming and shaming on the board, it would just bring out the worst in some people and even more personal insults would be thrown about so I'll leave it up to the mods to address.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
26/11/2010 13:47

RE msg 53, hattikins: (...) I just don't think it has anything to do with him who I email or what I include in the emails (...)

=> From your msg 1: "... perhaps the mods could keep an eye on this and have a quiet word with the worst offenders for the sake of other members."

You first mentioned 'email' (to moderators?) in your msg 45.

A bit late to explain why you didn't publicly reply to No1Doyen's question in msg 15.

I rest my case.

P.S. And whatever others may think or write: I have nothing against you - how could I, I have no idea who you are.