[KOCANS] BRS gathers information from ALL property buyers

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
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Message Posted:
27/11/2010 14:05

Property buyers who cannot obtain a TRNC title deed are being asked to send information to the British Residents' Society (BRS) so the scale of the problem can be established. Article (including a phone number and a link to a website) from Cyprus Today here: [ http://is.gd/hRKON ].

walkerscott


Joined: 13/08/2009
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Message Posted:
27/11/2010 14:37

http://www.no-deeds-no-money.moonfruit.com



i will place message on my poll's page

walkerscott


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Message Posted:
27/11/2010 14:43

Not all property buyers read the forum or the websites so the problem will never be resolved via this suggested route. It would be so simple for the Land Registry Office to write to all such buyers if they are seriously interested in finding a solution to this particular problem ... but going on past experience, they won't!

At least someone else is taking an interest and trying to help a particular group. Each small step helps!

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
27/11/2010 14:51

Let's not criticise - let's help spreading the BRS initiative as mentioned in Cyprus Today (November 27, 2010).

Article (including a phone number and a link to a website) from Cyprus Today here ▶ [ http://is.gd/hRKON ].

greenman


Joined: 16/02/2008
Posts: 526

Message Posted:
27/11/2010 14:54

Quite right DC and thank you for bringing this to my attention. Survey completed.

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
27/11/2010 15:07

The link in the paper is http://www.emppsite.com and you don't have to be a BRS member to submit to the survey.

mamachina


Joined: 22/11/2008
Posts: 730

Message Posted:
27/11/2010 16:58

If you know someone with kocan, or other buying troubles who doesnt reside here all the time, or doesnt read the newspaper etc tell them about this initiative, give them the website address and let them do the rest. It is an easy little questionnaire - and you never know, it may do some good - the more figures that the BRS has, the more clout it has when it tries to tackle the powers that be.

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
27/11/2010 17:10

RE msg 7, mamachina: (...) with kocan, or other buying troubles who doesnt reside here all the time (...)

▶ Saturday, Novemeber 27, 5 pm: 170 views of this thread (written at 2 pm today) - 29 viewers clicked the link with the article. Most of them in the UK, one in Australia, one in Canada.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
27/11/2010 18:29

The Property Complaints Office had detailed information about over 300 cases before the current government closed them down, perhaps the BRS could get the government to reopen the PCO and get them to sort out those problems instead of asking the same complainants to fill in more forms. Trouble is I doubt the victims will bother and this will be used as an excuse to say there are very few complaints in the TRNC. Could always ask HBPG, they have details of 1000s of complaints collected over 5 years.

gusanova


Joined: 23/11/2010
Posts: 187

Message Posted:
28/11/2010 06:24

I have just completed the questionaire and I think its good that the BRS are getting involved.

Well done and I hope that there can be some satisfactory result in the future.

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
28/11/2010 09:39

I am of course very pleased that the BRS are going to make what no doubt will have to be a lot of effort to encourage government to address the housing problems but as Walkerscott has said I also believe government has all the information it needs and it is a will to change anything which is lacking. It certainly has more detail than the survey will ever collate. In particular if government is to be made well aware that foreigners now understand the whole ugly picture then perhaps the survey must include details of the numbers who have a Kocan, how long it took to gain this, and whether or not it was achieved by paying all the taxes for which the builder was legally responsible and details of any other "bungs" paid. Even a slight indication of the % of buyers who have Kocan would be revealing.

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
28/11/2010 11:56

Well done BRS-Its a positive move.

Mandy


Joined: 25/10/2009
Posts: 48

Message Posted:
28/11/2010 12:13

But it only asks if you have a registered contract and permission to buy!



A registered contract and permission to buy are irrelvant if you're being evicted by a bank over a martgage you never took out.

Rocker



Joined: 24/09/2008
Posts: 384

Message Posted:
28/11/2010 16:38

Been trying for two and a half years, all documents are copied at the now defunct government offie, I will try this one thanks.

Rocker

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
28/11/2010 20:33

Omhoog - dit is belangrijk.

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
28/11/2010 20:42

Und noch wieder.

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
29/11/2010 01:53

So, the BRS has finally woken up. Better late than never,I suppose. Thought they were only interested in registered members?

Molly


Joined: 30/08/2008
Posts: 299

Message Posted:
29/11/2010 09:36

Malsancak



If the "victims" don't bother then they can't be too concerned, can they? It's all too easy to do nothing or let someone else try on your behalf.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
29/11/2010 21:17

One would think that if you were going to complete a survey that identifies the problems associated with buying in the TRNC you would also be asking:

1. how many have completed but not got their deeds?

2. How many have memorandums on their properties?



They seem only to be interested in how many are waiting for PTP.



STRANGE!

mineko


Joined: 08/11/2010
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 18:41

No not really strange. One step at a time. No doubt to look for impediments to a clear title will be a next step !

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 18:46

Bluster......The last answer of the lost.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 20:33

Sorry but I disagree. Why not gather as much information as possible? Is it not a complete waste of time having to revisit information when it could have been done simultaneously? Not good business sense and by looking also at deed transfer numbers and memorandums together with PTP it will allow more information for use when problem solving.



What is the good of solving the PTP problem if you can still not get your deeds because of developer refusal or memorandums and mortgages? They all go hand in hand, like dominoes if one falls, they all fall.