Hugh Dallas sacked and five other SFA staff forced out over Pope email

lindoc


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Message Posted:
28/11/2010 09:03

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/2010/11/27/hugh-dallas-sacked-and-five-other-sfa-staff-forced-out-over-pope-email-86908-22743963/



weeding them out...



Doc

Marvo


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Message Posted:
28/11/2010 11:24

Here we have an example of the hypocritical length's the catholic church will descend to.



We have a first class referee with years of experience forced to resign over a harmless email that has been circulating through cyberspace for months.



Hugh Dallas obviously made a serious error of judgment early on in his career when he decided to become a referee. He has now been forced to resign over a harmless email, whereas if he had gone into the priesthood, he could have raped and abused vulnerable children placed in his care, and had the whole thing brushed under the carpet if found out



The SFA should hang their heads in shame by letting this antiquated group of bigots pull their strings.

Castlemilk


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Message Posted:
28/11/2010 11:40

Good reply Robert and spot on.



Lindoc said [weeding them out] so why dont they do that with the priests instead of covering up for them.



Stevie

lindoc


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Message Posted:
28/11/2010 12:58

He is no longer a referee.

He was the SFA Head of Referee Development.



don't make me laugh by this comment

The SFA should hang their heads in shame by letting this antiquated group of bigots pull their strings.

The bigots of the SFA have been pulling strings for over 100 years.



Castlemilk ,Yes weed them out, no one covering up here.



Bridoc

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
28/11/2010 13:05

What was the content of the e-mail?

Mr Vince


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Message Posted:
28/11/2010 13:20

The content of the email was very disrespectfull of the leader of a religion. It infered that the pope was a paedofile. One wonders how the holier than thou briggade would have responded if the queen was made out to be the same. I am sure the royalists would have been clamouring for blood. Can you imagine what the explosion of violence would have been if the same comments were published about an Islamic leader? Dallas made a fundemental mistake and broke his employers email charter. It was right to sack him

lindoc


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Message Posted:
28/11/2010 13:26

BBC Scotland had seen the email in question.

Some people have phoned me and told me that five have left, but I don't know how many have gone and who they might be



SFA president George Peat

It was sent from the SFA account belonging to 53-year-old Dallas, contained no text but included an image attachment of a school crossing sign with a silhouette of an adult holding a child's hand and the word "caution".



Beneath the road sign were words making reference to the Pope's arrival in Scotland.

Marvo


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Message Posted:
28/11/2010 14:37

Come on, get real, you cannot possibly equate the sending of an email and any offense it may cause to the systematic raping of hundreds of young children and the mental scars the have to bare for the rest of there lives.



The catholic church, world wide, have been covering this up for decades.



While there is no evidence or suggestion, the pope was involved, at the sharp end, as they say, it has been reported that years ago he knew about a lot of the abuse and was instrumental in burying the reports. Which in any fair minded person equates to condoning this behavior.

Mr Vince


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Message Posted:
28/11/2010 15:39

Aye marvo??????? I wonder if you come from the Copeland Road. Yes the Catholic Church should be brought to task for all abuse suffered at the hands of their officers. The Church is an easy avenue for these deviants. However if it was not the Church that these deviants entered to advance their desires, they would have found access in many other professions. Teachers, Social Workers, and members of other churches are just as guilty. It is quite fashionable to tar all the Catholic Church with the same brush



I know Hugh Dallas. I have known him for years, and I have done a lot of business with him over these years. Hugh is not a biggot, but he has shown a lack of judgement in this instance. I know that he will be feeling quite ashamed with himself.

yenibob


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Message Posted:
28/11/2010 15:51

Terrible



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Pugwash


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Message Posted:
28/11/2010 16:17

Like it yenibob

Marvo


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Message Posted:
28/11/2010 16:57

Message 9



Yes i accept your statement that these perverts could have found easy access to children via other avenues. But if they had been teachers, social workers, or what ever, they would have been charged, jailed, lost their jobs, put on the sexual offenders list and been subject to some form of control to restrict their access to children.



But if you are a priest, it is a whole different matter. You are protected by the higher archy of the church and moved to a different parish. The accusations are hushed up and the poor victims are pressured into keeping quiet about the abuse they have suffered.



My original post on this subject was to point out the hypocrisy of the catholic church in 'weeding out' this high profile referee for circulating an innocent email that was in the public domain in any case. While in their own back garden they have allowed the systematic abuse of young children and the guilty parties being immune to any forms of justice for the crimes committed.

Lilli



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Message Posted:
28/11/2010 18:50

You know as an irish catholic we were brought up to be afraid of the priest. I have now read many books where children were subjected to all sorts and im sick to my soul. However where would these poor kids have gone if these orphanages etc did not exist. I will never ever condone the sisters of NO mercy of the ON Christian brothers but these kids had no one other than this regime, who knows what went on elsewhere in those days. stay with your family and be abused. I do not think the pope should be blamed he has only inheriteed the problems. Look to other countries who sell their children for a few dollarsgi rls aged 10 , 10 us dollars, Its everywhere do they put the blame at the presidents of the country it happens in. Yes the catholic church has to address this and i hope benedict does. When my dad died aged 36 we were told we had to go to an orphanage, as he was a soldier we didnt have a permanent address. he was taken ill in bahrein died in london. mum had a breakdow as you can ima

yenibob


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Message Posted:
28/11/2010 18:56

LIz, that is a disgraceful summary of the situation, and seems to excuse the offenders. Shame!!!!!!!!!



I know you will now do a 180, but hey, it needed to be said.

Lilli



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Message Posted:
28/11/2010 18:57

sorry you canimajine, the army sent here to a convent in dawlish devon. I was the oldest at 15 in an army family camp with no longer an army parent. I left school and got a job, there was no way i would have my brother and sisters in varoius homes. I spoke to the camp commander and explained my position and in fairness they got saffa involved. They let us stay as long as I worked together as my family. We had to pay a small amount thank god as I only earned 5 pounds a week. My mum came back 6 weeks later and got a job within the camp until we got a council house. I kept my job at woolworths in the office and went to night school, we got a house so we remained togrther x

lindoc


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Message Posted:
28/11/2010 19:20

Copeland road end ( Marvo)



How to turn defence in to attack.. We all read the forum bile when the the pope came to Scotland.



If anyone out there thinks that the sending of a sectarian email by a high ranking SFA official, Hugh Dallas is acceptable, then they better drag themselves kicking and screaming into the ‘real world.’ 2010. not 1690.



Like you, the press have done quite a job in portraying Dallas’ sacking as a ‘witch-hunt’.



One down one to go,

Bridoc

lindoc


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Message Posted:
29/11/2010 11:31

Another one gone..



Dougie McDonald has announced his retirement as a category one referee with immediate effect.



The 45-year-old, who has overseen two Scottish Cup finals, has been at the centre of a refereeing row since his controversial penalty U-turn decision.



McDonald misled Celtic manager Neil Lennon over his reasons for rescinding a spot-kick he initially awarded at Tannadice on 17 October.

Mr Vince


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Message Posted:
29/11/2010 12:55

Yenibob



This is the type of thing that forced Hugh Dallas out of a job. It is offensive. Would you send something like this to any of your customers? I think not. If you did and I was your boss then I would sack you.

elkiton



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Posts: 514

Message Posted:
29/11/2010 20:55

Marve wrote "My original post on this subject was to point out the hypocrisy of the catholic church in 'weeding out' this high profile referee for circulating an innocent email that was in the public domain in any case. While in their own back garden they have allowed..."

I tend to agree with you...

But.

Endorsing Mr. Vince and Lindoc.

When I worked for a very large (as in global) firm, it was made quite clear to employees that the sending of emails through the firm's equipment was something for which we could be called to account, religious, racial and pornographic mail was discouraged, and we knew that anything deemed offensive by others could result in disciplinary action potentially leading to dismissal.

There is no witch hunt,, the man made a grave error of judgment and now he is paying for it.

TonyE