UK police will be stopping people with snow on car roof

lindoc


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 11:41

- police will be stopping people from 2Day who are driving with snow on roof of car and will issue fixed penalty of £60 + 3 points



Source.. from my mates facebook...





Linda

Quarmby


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 11:47

December 1st not April 1st. I think they have more important things to do doh!

yrret


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 11:48

Interesting, because under UK law, if you remove the snow, and a place it irresponsibly, and someone falls on it, they can sue you.

A similar thing has happened in the past where people have cleared their paths, it has iced over and a person has slipped on it.



I wonder whet they will do with all the cars in traffic jams when it's snowing and the snow settles on the roof of the car.

lindoc


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Posts: 220

Message Posted:
01/12/2010 11:56

Yrret

I wonder whet they will do with all the cars in traffic jams when it's snowing and the snow settles on the roof of the car.



£60 a pop fill yer boots man, lol



Linda x

apc2010


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 12:00

all the best facts come from facebook .........

yenibob


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 12:08

Not funny if you are on a bike behind a car shedding a Tonne of snow!



Fixed penalties (with points) are £80.

ianwfs


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 12:15

Snow on the roof is, in fact, quite dangerous.

It's not the snow that's currently falling and blows off as you drive along, it's the snow that falls over a period of time (perhaps overnight) and hardens. You come out in the morning, see it, and think how firm it is. What then happens is you drive off and put your heater on full tilt. This warms both you and the roof of your car, which in turn thaws a thin layer of the snow/ice, allowing it to slide off and hit whatever is behind you.

erictheviking


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 12:24

That is very true. They mentioned it in the news for the last couple of days.



It is a hazard to other car drivers and yourself as it can either slid down onto your windscreen and impair your vision or fly and hit somebody else car either impairing their vision or worse still damaging their car.



So just think of it as a courtesy to other road users



Care to detract your comments. Or maybe not

@apc2010

@Quarmby

lindoc


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Posts: 220

Message Posted:
01/12/2010 12:33

Yes Quarmy doh





Just saying what my friend said and the news

lindoc


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 12:39

Yeni Bob



When did they put it up?

Quarmby


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 12:44

msg 8



"snow slides down your windscreen"

Ever heard of windscreen wipers?

If some of you think snow from one car you are following may hit your car, I suggest you are driving too close. Get real!

yenibob


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 12:47

Msg 10



About 10 years ago.



Msg 11



Some people are just so dopey. (Windscreen wipers!!!!! TEE HEE)

apc2010


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 12:49

have tried looking for this "law" online but cannot find it , I was under the naive assumption that all new laws have to be passed by the government ..????(in UK)

yenibob


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 12:51

Danger to other road users



Insecure load



Depositing filth or other hazards



Etc Etc

Groucho



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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 12:57

What makes you think it might a new law?

malsancak


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 12:58

It could even be worse if a bus with snow on it's roof was carrying a female passenger eating chocolates - "It is illegal for a lady to eat chocolates on a public conveyance."

http://www.getmeasolicitor.com/strange-english-laws.htm

Quarmby


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 12:59

yenibob



I fear you are one of the "PC" brigade?



Perhaps we should ban all wildlife from being near roads just in case they inadvertently stray onto the roads and we might unfortunately kill them and damage your precious vehicle

Should we also ban vehicles driving in the rain in case they spay water on to your car and it goes on your windscreen and impairs your vision momentarily, I could go on.



I live in the real world!

yenibob


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 13:02

Not for long with your attitude to driving safety. Numpty

Quarmby


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 13:44

yenibob

when you start calling people by silly childish names, I fear you have somewhat lost the argument. End of discussion with you.



ps



I have driven for 46 years and up to now never been in any accidents,so your last comment somewhat contemptible.

ianwfs


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 14:34

The conditions in London at the moment are exactly what could cause the problem. Snow overnight freezing on the roof, with a light covering this morning. When the ice comes off the roof, it comes in one large slab.

An you're correct. There isn't an actual offence "Failing to remove snow", but a couple that would cover it would be Driving without due care and Attention, or Driving without consideration for other road users.

The highway code says

# you MUST be able to see, so clear all snow and ice from all your windows

# you MUST ensure that lights are clean and number plates are clearly visible and legible

# make sure the mirrors are clear and the windows are demisted thoroughly

# remove all snow that might fall off into the path of other road users

>>>>More

ianwfs


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Posts: 563

Message Posted:
01/12/2010 14:36

<<<<

The rule is clarified in the introduction:-

Many of the rules in the Code are legal requirements, and if you disobey these rules you are committing a criminal offence. You may be fined, given penalty points on your licence or be disqualified from driving. In the most serious cases you may be sent to prison. Such rules are identified by the use of the words ‘MUST/MUST NOT’

Although failure to comply with the other rules of the Code will not, in itself, cause a person to be prosecuted, The Highway Code may be used in evidence in any court proceedings under the Traffic Acts (see 'The road user and the law') to establish liability. This includes rules which use advisory wording such as ‘should/should not’ or ‘do/do not’.

yenibob


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 14:39

Apologies Quarmby if you think I was calling you childish names, of course I wasn't.



I was quoting from the dictionary.



Numpty....One who believes windscreen wipers will remove 2 cubic meters of snow which has been suddenly deposited on to a vehicle windscreen, usually during braking.



Plural...A Thicket of Numpties or Motorway Pile up.



As it's pantomime season I will take your joke about 46 years with no accidents in the correct spirit.

ianwfs


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 14:40

The Road Traffic Act further clarifies this by stating:-

"Careless, and inconsiderate, driving.

If a person drives a mechanically propelled vehicle on a road or other public place without due care and attention, or without reasonable consideration for other persons using the road or place, he is guilty of an offence.”



In other words, If you don't clear frozen snow from your roof and it slides off, causing problems for other users, or in such a way that it blocks your vision, you're guilty of an offence.

apc2010


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 14:44

Thanks to a law enacted by Edward VI, between 1547 and 1553, it's illegal to stand sockless within 100 yards of the Queen.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1248352/Carrying-plank-public-Youre-nicked-The-little-known-laws-daft-theyre-criminal.html#ixzz16rb8Fm5v

yenibob


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 14:50

Old laws are rarely repealed. It is a waste of Parliamentary time.



When did you last see a Taxi with a bale of Hay?

lindoc


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Posts: 220

Message Posted:
01/12/2010 15:03

When did you last see a Taxi with a bale of Hay?



is that not some type of Bio fuel....lol

nurseawful



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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 15:03

No problem getting the snow off the roof. Problem is driving on un gritted roads! Still snowing here in Lanarkshire, not seen a gritting lorry all day.



Chris

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 16:24

It's a pity the Police dont stop people with bald tyres and lights that don't work - they must cause more accident than a bit of snow on the roof.

yenibob


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 16:52

Can you back that up with facts Bill? I for one would be interested in the research.

swyflot


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 17:37

Happened to me on the A 74,SLIGHT TOUCH OF THE BRAKES AND IT SLID ONTO MY WINDSCREEN,JAMMED WIPERS SOLID , COULD NOT SEE WHERE I WAS GOING AND DROVE OFF THE ROAD.



SO yes clear it off it`s lethal if you don`t

JoanneB


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 17:54

I think the UK Police have more pressing things to do. Midlands is in caos today, with 98% of the schools closed, businesses suffering.....Wish I was sat by the harbour in Kyrenia.

yenibob


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Message Posted:
01/12/2010 18:00

You could be sat by Kyrenia Harbour and pay rip off prices or.....Bogaz harbour...Much nicer and way way cheaper. But hey...Girne is the centre of the world (Skegness with Sun).

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
02/12/2010 10:38

I can honestly say that the Police had better things to do in SE London Surrey and Kent in the last few days..

Tatlisu4me


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Message Posted:
02/12/2010 11:01

Someone text me the same info last night



- police will be stopping people from 2Day who are driving with snow on roof of car and will issue fixed penalty of £60 + 3 points



Did not recocognise the number though !!

yrret


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Message Posted:
02/12/2010 12:04

I think I saw an article in Cyprus Today yesterday saying that as part of aligning NC with the other European countries it will soon be joining, the same will be happening on the bypass from tomorrow ............... until the weekend when it closes.

frontalman



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Message Posted:
02/12/2010 14:12

In the 1960s my old man was stopped by a policeman pissed as a fart (my old man, not the PC) with a car full of other drunks and two more on the roof. The copper told him to be careful, to not do it again and be off with you. What happened to the good old days?

hawkeye


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Message Posted:
02/12/2010 14:21

According to Radio Leeds about 30 mins ago. A leading Police Inspector said that this was a ruse, and they would not be out deliberately stopping people with snow on their roof...........He said it was a web scam!!!!!!!!!!!! Rumour...........

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
02/12/2010 18:14

This thread is officially hijacked (one post only... ) for the benefit of underprivileged TRNC children: the secret is revealed here: ▶ [ http://is.gd/i68sZ ]...

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
02/12/2010 20:10

>>In the 1960s my old man was stopped by a policeman pissed as a fart (my old man, not the PC) with a car full of other drunks and two more on the roof. The copper told him to be careful, to not do it again and be off with you. What happened to the good old days?<<



I suppose you were driving the car, whilst sat on his lap ? ;)

Blackbird



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Message Posted:
02/12/2010 21:25

Up here in North Wales the Police get points for irregularities! More points for not wearing a seat belt than a bald tyre???

Yes it's true!

...............and what do points make?????????????????

decanddyl


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Message Posted:
03/12/2010 00:48

Before moving here I lived in Aberdeenshire and before that Midlothian.

Where police have been stopping cars with a lot of snow on their roof for years.



Reason 1.. It's illegal.



2.. It's downright dangerous.

Groucho



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Message Posted:
03/12/2010 07:54

"Before moving here I lived in Aberdeenshire and before that Midlothian. "



Definition of 'out of the frying pan......'

CarrieRBag



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Message Posted:
03/12/2010 08:17

You have to take the snow off your roof in Germany.

frontalman



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Message Posted:
03/12/2010 23:18

No Markymark, are you implying he was irresponsible? Actually it was probably the late fifties, come to think of it. Can't confirm because he died in February. Strange thing is, now he's dead I've got lots of questions I'd like to ask him.

decanddyl


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Message Posted:
04/12/2010 16:52

Message 42 have to agree with your comment

kaiserphil


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Message Posted:
04/12/2010 18:00

CarrieRBag - where I live near Munich some of them don't even bother to take it off of their car windows!

deputydawg


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Message Posted:
07/12/2010 21:55

I find that if you live in a road which is long enough the snow will come off the back and not over the windscreen once you reach approx 90 mph dependant on wind speeds and direction. A few 180 degree, hand brake spins en route should ensure that the snow is deposited in your neighbours front gardens and not on the footpaths where it could be a danger to pedestrians. If you try this in Germany you must pay attention to all your mirrors as your German neighbours are likely to be trying an overtaking manouvre as you reach 90 mph