Climate change must be coming

hollie


Joined: 15/07/2009
Posts: 149

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 15:11

Surely the weather in the UK and Northern Europe is an indication of climate change... Last night it was as cold as -15 in some parts of the country. I can't remember it ever being that cold, and this is the second year on the bounce as it was brass monkeys last year too..



Glad i live over here!

walkerscott


Joined: 13/08/2009
Posts: 901

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 17:47

I can remember it being like that in the 60s and 70s if not every year, every other!

And in Germany it was normal then.

Corbo



Joined: 13/09/2009
Posts: 627

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 19:20

Precisely WS. This is back to normal winters. I recall the weather scientists a few years back saying we would get mild wet winters in the UK from now. Yet when we have cold winters it is also down to man made carbon emissions. They would make good gamblers as the coin has heads on both sides. The gulf stream may well be moving or even dissipating but the causation of this could well be due to nature and cycles and patterns of movement in the oceans.

borodave


Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 167

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 19:38

and heres me thinking its global warming

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 19:57

msge 1



Who knows if Global warming is here. There are so many conflicting arguments.



One argument I read today, was that Oxfam are using global warming as a way to increase their funding. They say that 21,000 deaths in 2010 were caused by weather disasters which were due to global warming (21,000 in itself is a tragedy), however each year less and less people are dying from weather disasters. 21, 000 is less than 35,000 people which was the average death rate for the last nine years, and it is considerably lower than the average death rate of 168,000 five decades ago.



Nevertheless, 201O is still on track to be the second warmest year on record since they began in 1850.



From what I understand, the land and air temperature is not so significant, it is the water temperature which is the biggest indicator of global warming.

Small but steady incremental increases in temperature, may not seem an issue, but they may cause balancing feedback loops to fail. That would

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 19:58

be scary, as you could then get runaway temperatures.

greenman


Joined: 16/02/2008
Posts: 526

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 20:04

No, borodave, Global Warming is a scam supported by the likes of the European rapporteur John (sorry, touching forlock) Lord Prescott. He's at an important conference on the subject - where? - Cancun, along with 22,000 other delegates, delegate helpers and the media. He's already saying that agreements can't be made as none of the country leaders are attending and that a voluntary framework should be the target.

Why, I ask myself naively, couldn't they have held a video conference on the subject? If they believe in the principle of reducing carbon emissions wouldn't this be the way to do it?

borodave


Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 167

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 20:06

could do with a bit of warming in north yorkshire looking out of wimdow at 18 inches of snow brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 21:16

Global warming....Ha Ha... definitely not here???

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 21:50

even scientist from every corner of the globe cant agree on climate change , some say its mankind with carbon emissions some say the earth as suffered highs and lows in temperature differentials scince the first life evolved on out planet .



i tend to agree with the latter , there was no carbon emission when the last ice age happend .



andy

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 21:57

anything to do with the ash clould earlier this year, the world is changing x

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 21:59

tour operators should take note and offer the uk now for skiing holidays, imagine the housing market in decline now build chalets and market the place x

frontalman



Joined: 28/02/2008
Posts: 499

Message Posted:
03/12/2010 22:09

The ice sheets melting in the Arctic are affecting the temperature and the water patterns of the North Atlantic, this in turn is filtering through to more Southerly parts of the Altlantic Ocean. The past warm(ish) winters in the UK were caused by the Gulf stream effect i.e. warmer seas flowing in our direction keeping the UK climate artificially mild. If this is indeed changing, then UK winter weather will be more like that experienced in Norway and Sweden, which could be what is happening now. So global warming may be the cause of colder winters for the UK.



Anyway, it's still blooming warm here in Cyprus, unbelievable for the beginning of December. It's forecast to be 28 degs C in Lefkosa tomorrow.

MarkVPiazza


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 530

Message Posted:
04/12/2010 12:47

Weather has always changed



Global Warming is a diversionary tactic to take peoples mind off SUSTAINABILITY - no one will ever know for sure if global warming is a true long term trend (like the new ice age tthat was promissed a couplem of decades ago), and if it is, what we can realy do about it.



The real problem is the global population is likely to increase from 7 billion now to 9 billion in 30 years, and the Chinese and Indians are starting to use western levels of resources - add the two together and we're stuffed !

greylag


Joined: 08/04/2009
Posts: 1110

Message Posted:
04/12/2010 15:41

There are alot of people making "loads a money" on the back of global warming.Who remembers the millenium bug,

Grey.