Can some one tell me where

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
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Message Posted:
12/12/2010 19:51

The word spiel comes from. Someone today said i will loose my spiel

proger1



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Message Posted:
12/12/2010 19:55

I have never hear it used i that form Lilli but it is commonly used i German and not so commonly any more ion scottich to mean game or play, so I suppose it could mean to lose your game

Scoty


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Message Posted:
12/12/2010 19:56

spiel [ʃpiːl]

n

a glib plausible style of talk, associated esp with salesmen

vb

1. (intr) to deliver a prepared spiel

2. (tr; usually foll by off) to recite (a prepared oration)

[from German Spiel play]

Lilli



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Message Posted:
12/12/2010 19:59

thanks all, paul how the hell are you xxxxx

YFred


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Message Posted:
12/12/2010 19:59

spiel (spl, shpl) Informal

n.

A lengthy or extravagant speech or argument usually intended to persuade.

intr. & tr.v. spieled, spiel·ing, spiels

To talk or say (something) at length or extravagantly.

proger1



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Message Posted:
12/12/2010 20:03

Fine Lilli, been a bit busy lately, my birthday, Christians birthday, Vasectomy, you know the usual and before I get accused of hijacking or going off thread, since the vasectomy my game has definately been off

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
12/12/2010 20:04

All wrong (says pedantic himself). It's German and should be used as "das Spiel" = "the game" or "the match". It's usually used when the German Mannschaft (German national football team) wins a football match in the last ten seconds (I hate to say as a Dutchman)...

proger1



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Message Posted:
12/12/2010 20:09

Hans, not all wrong, I said the same thing (I just forgot to mention I was only talking about speil, not the statement) and also that it means the same in Scottish (now that is pedantic)

JohhnyLee


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Message Posted:
12/12/2010 20:15

Also used to describe a sales pitch, ie. Spielers, the ones that talk at market stalls etc. IE. a salesmans spiel



But I have also understood it to mean a type of speech.



Some Market stalls used to say No Spielers.

Ballyboffin


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Posts: 903

Message Posted:
12/12/2010 20:29

Hey Lilli, xxx



If it is spelt as 'SPEAL'



In Norn Ireland it means story or a bit of craic. As my granny used to say..... 'Tell the truth and give me none of your speal' !!!! ")

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
12/12/2010 21:59

Hiya Bally, Well i go with that, we all love a bit of craic. God I miss thatt Not much craic here now xx

Tootie


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Message Posted:
12/12/2010 22:13

What a load of spiel

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
12/12/2010 22:18

The word is Shpiel.



A long sales pitch by a person who wants to sell you on an idea or convince you about what kind of person he is. Usually used for picking up chicks or selling you car insurance.

Tootie


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Message Posted:
12/12/2010 22:20

Sorry Bill but Im not buying that Shpiel. Re msg 13

Lilli



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Message Posted:
12/12/2010 22:31

thanks all, i will draw my own conculions, what a strange language we have

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
12/12/2010 22:37

More Shpiel! )

Blackbird



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Message Posted:
13/12/2010 00:41

Googled it and came up with:



Spiel is an American English slang word, or Scots word, referring to a rant or monologue, perhaps of a dishonest or misleading nature.



Etymology

The word has two possible etymologies:



from the Scots word for game, competition, or (sporting)



from a Yiddish language word used in prison culture, an evolutionary stage between rap and hip hop and the earlier chain gang songs influenced by gospel and Afro-Caribbean music.

Ossie


Joined: 19/01/2008
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Message Posted:
13/12/2010 08:14

Collins dictionary says "speech made to persuade someone to do something".