what would you do.......and what if its yours......

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 09:13

Just thought I would get feedback from you all. If you had a very nice Villa here and rented it out on a 6month contract, and the renters were not looking after the place, All the air cons were running and the water heater all of the time as the only means of heat.and it was starting to look a mess. How would you feel if they could not afford any of these comforts.the air cons running and the patio doors open in the middle of the afternoon ! How would you feel if they up and left...And you live back home unaware of this, How would you feel.



For anyone living here say you lived next door and were aware, What would you think.



To be sure its none of anyone's business..can you handle your electric bill this winter !



Spider,X

scruffdog


Joined: 09/12/2008
Posts: 742

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 09:38

Surely, if you are renting a property out here whilst in UK, you would have a friend keep an eye on it for you, this is what we do on the east side?

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 09:52

We do supply and fit credit card electricity meters to holiday and rental villas. That way the tenant can use as much electricity as they like and it doesn't matter, as they are paying for it.

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 10:09

Ensure the renter signs a contract.



Ensure they pay a retainer and rent up front.



In the contract insist renters pay utility bills and send you a photo copy of the bills monthly, the minute they fail you get on the case straight away so you are elerted in the early stages if you have a problem.



There are other safe guards you need to put in place, to minimises risk !!

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 10:26

You really should have a paid agent who collects your rent and checks receipts for utilities.

"Getting on the case straight away" is only really possible with local representation, if you are in UK.

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 11:41

I thought you lived in the TRNC, or is this hypothetical?

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 12:49

Spider .I am guessing you know these people ..???

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 13:38

Its not a guessing game. If you were to re-read post one and give me your views, It happens ! and it may well be happening to some poor sods.....That are about to get quite a shock come the new year and maybe left up the creek without a paddle







Spider,X

jakki



Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 865

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 14:17

This is exactly why we would never rent our place out - to think of a stranger sleeping in our bed - yuk!!!

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 14:41

I doubt we are talking about a stranger!

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 14:43

Yenibob..I thought you wanted to call me ? Maybe you do not understand the post, fine then leave it alone.............







Spider,X

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 14:48

I think I understand this post only too well, don't you?



Don't forget, it's best cold.

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 15:14

probally contact the daily telegraph...

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 15:23

msg 0,



So you have never slept in a hotel bed, then?

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 15:34

If I had lived next door and I knew you, I most definitely would have let you know what was going on,

spider, and if you gave me permission to act on your behalf, I would have, however I am a gob on a stick and

hate to see anyone taken advantage of. Unfortunately, the world is full of people who turn a blind eye and don't want to get involved.



How would I feel if it happened to me - gutted. My condolences spider.

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 17:10

pollymarples and others,



I think this is a hypothetical by Spider as she rents so she is not talking about her property,



Spider

You need to make these cryptic posts a little clearer for people to understand, in my opinion.



Chris

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 18:15

Message 4 make sure you give this advice to your own renters if you ever get any lol

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 18:37

Chris good to see you back, yes I do rent, The post is quite clear..If you had a villa and you were renting it out, would you be worried if you found out that you were renting to people that had no respect for it, or say had the attitude when some people say rent a car ' Oh well its just rented.' and if it were to break down just leave it as it was and where it was '..People with little respect for others...If you were to read post one and put yourself in the owners place, We have all read threads on here about such things, ie; Our renters have left us a high electric bill ! How would you feel, and or what would you do. How dose one be SURE.. I am aware some people find my posts confusing at times, but the first post says it all !



Spider,X

vonny


Joined: 25/06/2009
Posts: 476

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 19:12

well the owners should have taken a deposit from the tenents in the first place,utility bills can be turned into the renters name although at a fee.also the property should have insurance for damage and contents.. many properties that are rented out dont always go smoothly but it happens in any country.you should see the state of the properties in the uk after the tenent has left.its the risk you take im afraid

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 19:26

Thank you vonny it seems both you and pipie have at least got the questions on the first post ! your contribution on this thread may well help others to understand,. Would you say the deposit would cover maybe 3months electric that could be run up by say such a tenant.Say maybe someone looks upon it as a few months holiday leaving the owners high and dry..How would people feel if they felt they had such people staying in their property.





Spider,X

vonny


Joined: 25/06/2009
Posts: 476

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 19:36

the 3 months deposit may cover the electric it may not. id be more worried about a tenent staying in my property paying no bills at all and couldnt get them to leave without a court order,again this is very common in the uk and it can be very costly for the owner its not nice but like i said before its the risk you take

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 20:39

johndp.



We do and we have had no probs up to now, re the one you are reffering to as soon as the bad reputation of you know who is erased and all knows he has moved on (thank goodness ) we will have no probs either !!

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 21:38

sorry spider

but pipie are you a mind reader as well now maybe its the one you sit on yer veranda watching the fishermen mending there nets, ha ha ha ha creased up at that 1, hear in the village taverns that you are at the capers there as well, and we all know about your bad reputation you dont need to post it here on sombody elses thread

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 23:07

im with msg9 , but if i did , i would get electricity meter changed over to the renters name .

Denny


Joined: 09/12/2010
Posts: 261

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 23:35

References, references, references - pref. with checkable UK addresses. You need to know as much as you can about your tenant, where they come from and where they've been. Google them and check out Facebook. Make sure you do an ID check when you interview them - passport or driving licence. I've been renting out properties for many years in the UK and Cyprus and these are the precautions you should take to best avoid being shafted.



After you've satisfied yourself over that, make sure you secure at least two months deposit and monthly rent in advance, to be paid on a set date by BGC. Late rent incurs penalties and your lease should stipulate repairs or damages should be raised with the landlord immediately. Make sure mutual notice to quit is clear and that annoyance to neighbours can mean a termination of the agreement. Have the contract signed in front of a notar (near the law courts) and make sure you and they initial every page. Finally, agree an inventory of house contents.

Denny


Joined: 09/12/2010
Posts: 261

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 23:38

yernibob/anyone



Any chance of e-mailing me the stuff you managed to save from the other night before it got deleted? Gutted that I missed it.

Denny


Joined: 09/12/2010
Posts: 261

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 23:40

D'Oh! And the e-mail address is dennyclayton@hotmail.co.uk



Ta muchly!

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
21/12/2010 23:42

denny call maria she will tell you x

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
22/12/2010 00:05

why would anyone think this has anything to do with posting from the other night ? Yet again why are people assuming and making assumptions.[.Please read post one again,] no need to analogize why I posted this topic either..back to the point.. How would you feel. and what could you do..you may even live here and have two properties..How would you feel if this was going on in your villa ? How would you get them out if you wanted too. and what if they left after having run up no end on an electric bit, and or even rent too.I could talk to anyone if they wished to call, But would prefer to know how you would feel,what would you do about it.





Spider,X

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
22/12/2010 00:45

Mods as I am the poster of this thread it may as well get closed now thank you..



I tell you how I would feel though..Pig Sick and worried that their are people renting a villa that I own why may not have any respect in keeping the place as it was left, Who may leave me with a very high bill to deal with also. That perhaps the deposit may not cover, If were my Villa I would feel worried, upset too..It would make me think that I could never rent it out ever again..



End of thread...thanks.



Spider,X please close.

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
22/12/2010 01:19

Message 5 - our Agent (first time used an agent, NEVER have had ANY problems renting out ourselves) Agent took one month's commission immediately, and from then on, has done NOTHING - he has received his last warning from us - as the female he put in the apartment hasn't paid rent, or maintenance charges, is asking for additional furniture having viewed the apartment fully furnished, says the freezer part of the fridge isn't working, yet when someone goes at a pre-arranged time to look at it, she is NEVER there, having said she would be, she never answers her 'phone and he leaves it to family to be forever chasing after her - when HE has been paid to do the job. As regards this thread, it appears obvious it is more character assassination of someone who (anecdotally) is in need of compassion and help - maybe even a THERAPIST (nota bene the spelling Spider)!!!!!!!! if one says they are one, they should be able to spell it. TRNC Vaughan, how much are the card meters to fit?

Denny


Joined: 09/12/2010
Posts: 261

Message Posted:
22/12/2010 13:44

Post deleted, for inferred personal remark .

Simbas

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
22/12/2010 13:49

Msg 32 , removed for reason given

Simbas

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
22/12/2010 14:03

Mrs G. It seems like you are one of the unlucky home owners here and I do hope you get things sorted for you own peace of mind.Good luck. We also rent and have had the same problem re;the freezer this summer but its seems it sorted its self out once it no longer had to over work, apparently this happens during the summer months. Our rented villa is our home and we are happy to maintain and keep the villa in good order without the need to call upon our landlord. We have respect that we are tenants to and strive to ensure we remain good tenants. As you have stated this is not always the case. The whole point of the thread !



As with regards your other comments ! I have never stated that I have a diploma in spelling Please give up with little comments and feel free to call me 0533 839 5561. I have my feeling that you wont though !



Spider,X

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
22/12/2010 17:34

Ms 34 - no I won't be calling upon you Spider, because, it happens to be that I am a Trained/Accredited Trauma Counsellor



Interesting the comment about the freezer part of the 'fridge not working so well in hot months, I wonder if that was the problem........

bar88jack


Joined: 16/12/2010
Posts: 50

Message Posted:
22/12/2010 17:38

MsGarnet I bet you do not repeat disclose what goes on with clients on a public forum, no matter what the alleged provocation.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
22/12/2010 17:55

Oh dear oh dear...and to think that I have only just understood what being HACKED on your laptop means )) Facts are just coming to light this very week Mrs G maybe in confidence you could visit and take a good look at my laptop and see for yourself..But I very might DOUBT IT.. ) )





Spider,X The offer is open to anyone as it has come to light that everything on this laptop it OPEN to someone..



WOW the things we learn as the week gets longer..nice one. AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE..

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
22/12/2010 18:15

And to think that someone can get into your laptop and get all your passwords look at all you mail.know what and when you are doing things..its a bloody double laptop working from some place else..snooping..Now I understand with regards to my thread the other day re;IP address..passwords.banking..Jeezeeee and to think I had a thought about this all along..Little old Spider,X has cracked it. ))







Spider.X Off and out off here for a Christmas sing-a-long. good night folks and Merry Christmas. xx

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
22/12/2010 18:31

bar88jack - absolutely not - it would be totally unprofessional, not to say probably illegal in some instances. Depending on the solvency and determination of the party(ies) involved one could be sued for libel or defamation of character or a myriad of other unpleasantries. One should always take a neutral stance; if taking a position, then one can't be unbiased in the help (or otherwise)! one gives.



Spider - along with your occasional grammar blips - might I also suggest you should have gone to Spec Savers? only because if you read any of my posts, most make it clear, as of now, I am stuck in Englandm NOT that looking at anyone's laptop would be of much use, as I am not computer literate - save what I need to know........