Power Surge in Ozankoy Wednesday

chatterbox04


Joined: 13/11/2008
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Message Posted:
30/12/2010 15:10

Did anyone experience a power surge yesterday afternoon approx 1.00pm in vicinty Five Finger Bunglaow Ozankoy.

We did,the big bang went off, and as a result it burnt out the internet dongle, wireless radio transformer which were plugged into a power surge unit, plus the outside water pump pressure control unit, also the waterpump to the pool. Now we have to repair or replace same, as well as the washing machine which was in use at the time.



Have been to Kibtec today, a very nice Manager has advised to hand in a written letter of explanation etc and they may help out with reimbursement charges if receipts are given in as well. If anyone else had similar problems you would be advised to do the same. I hope you have not had the same experience but thought I would post this information for interested parties. Happy New Year to all.

basheer



Joined: 22/12/2008
Posts: 949

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 15:27

http://elkocyprus.com/e-regulator.html



I boght this 100 lira ,ismet on cyprus44 edcucated me as to how to prevent this happening to me

again Bash

WotNoDeeds!


Joined: 26/08/2009
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 15:33

Hello chatterbox04



Yes we had same problem (and so have many other people here) over 3 years ago had huge power surge and it caused nearly £1000 worth of damage, we did same as you down to Kibtek (with damage receipts) wrote letters in both English and Turkish also sent letters to Nicosia, to date they have not responded (and we sent copies several times) and we was told by a solicitor you are wasting your time they will not respond (letters straight in the bin) or pay compensation for damaged goods.



By all means try but don’t hold your breath.



M

basheer



Joined: 22/12/2008
Posts: 949

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 16:30

http://elkocyprus.com/e-role.html



this explains better

chatterbox04


Joined: 13/11/2008
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 16:35

Hi Many thanks, I am thinking we will invest and buy a regulator. Your advice much appreciated.

chatterbox04


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Message Posted:
30/12/2010 16:37

Hello yes I certainly will not be holding my breath, and I really do not expect any recompense, but felt I have to try. Perhaps I am dreaming Ha Ha. Many thanks for you reply.

dataman


Joined: 14/06/2010
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 16:51

A voltage regulator does give some protecton against the loss of the supply neutral conductor which is invariably the the cause of most "power surges" Make sure the regulator you purchase is up to the job (locally sourced ones will be suspect).



On an unbalanced network the loss of the neutral conductor can cause the voltage to rise by over 150%

so your appliances could be subject to over 400 volts, hence the burn out of electronic circuits in domestic appliancesand pumps etc.



In the UK, the elecricity supplier will reimburse you if this occurs (very rare).



However, the reason that this occurs regularly in TRNC is because the electricity network is not sufficiently PME Bonded, as in the UK.



KIBTEC needs to address the problem by correctly earthing their network, simple as that.



Hope this helps.



Dataman

Bsc. (Hons) Elec Eng. MCIBSE

WotNoDeeds!


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Message Posted:
30/12/2010 16:57

Hello chatterbox04



Good luck chatterbox04 you may be lucky. my advice would be TURN EVERYTHING OFF when you go out and get protectors for everything electrical in the house.



M

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 18:17

msg 4 Basheer,

Thanks for the link http://elkocyprus.com/e-role.html which does explain it all but I am afraid it may be too technical for some.

To put it simply, if you plug one of my Voltage Protectors into any spare socket, it will protect your house against such surges and it only costs 100 TL. It is my own invention and as far as I know it is not available anywhere as.



msg. 7, Dataman,

I am not sure why the Electricity Authority in Cyprus going back to the fifties chose not to earth the neutral at the poles and earths the neutral at the transformer only. As a result the neutral connection is not used as the earth connection in Cyprus. In any case, similar surges and faults can happen in UK too if the neutral at the entry to the apartment block is broken. Thus the "neutral" connecting the various flats in the apartment will be "floating". So my Voltage protector is really the answer for such faults. A Volage Regulator will protect against such faults if it cuts off the output voltage when it goes outside the set limits. My new regulators does exactly that.

ismet

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 20:33

I can highly recommend these voltage regulators.

Once again there is a solution to a problem which people don't do anything about and have to learn the hard way.

Everyone in TRNC should have one of these.

andrew4232



Joined: 04/07/2009
Posts: 1543

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 23:46

TRISH i told you before leave those toys alone sucking all the power from the mains ;)

happy new year !

nostradamus


Joined: 15/04/2008
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
31/12/2010 08:05

Have you tried your insurance company for the damage? Mine paid out a few years ago for something similar.

chatterbox04


Joined: 13/11/2008
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
31/12/2010 08:11

Hi Andrew

Happy New Year to you also may it be good for you. Re: my toys am now thinking of ever ready. See you soon x

chatterbox04


Joined: 13/11/2008
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
31/12/2010 08:17

Hello Nostrodamus

Yes have tried the insurance company, and what a surprise "not" apparently many insurance company's do not pay out for household electrical goods including Commercial Insurance as TRNC is prone to electric problems, but there again the seperate pool insurance will pay for the poolpump. I am going to continue to try and claim from Commercial Insurance for the electric goods, hey it is still a good life and gives my mind something to work on.

TRNCVaughan


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Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
31/12/2010 09:58

Prevention is better than cure.

Get an Elko voltage protector. It will be some of the best money you ever spend.

bridie


Joined: 18/09/2008
Posts: 308

Message Posted:
31/12/2010 11:50

The surge caused the overhead electric cables to spark outside our gate which in turn set our fence alight, and the wind was blowing the flames in to our garden.We managed to put out the fire, whilst our neighbours were frantically phoning Kibtec, who were not responding. Eventually at 4.30pm they came round to repair the transformer which is close to us and supplies certain older houses in the region of Five Fingers holiday village. Fortunately, we had purchased one of Elko's all house anti surge plugs a few months ago, which saved all our goods. Our neighbours were not so fortunate and lost every electrical item in the house.

As little changes here, well not in the last 28 years, I would strongly advise people to purchase one of these gadgets, it gives you peace of mind.

Ismet, I'll be looking for commission!!!!LOL Happy New Year.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
31/12/2010 11:57

Where can we but the regulator please.

bridie


Joined: 18/09/2008
Posts: 308

Message Posted:
31/12/2010 12:07

Tektan, in the shop down by the side of the Iktisat bank.

hattikins


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Message Posted:
31/12/2010 12:08

Thanks Bridie

Enchanted


Joined: 20/07/2008
Posts: 159

Message Posted:
31/12/2010 12:25

Maybe Elko can answer this. We are also in Ozankoy, but our power is from the new (6 years) 11kv line that runs below the village. This voltage is reduced by a new transformer down to a three phase overhead supply. Do you think the new modern transformers have earthed neutrals, if so, are surges unlikely?

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
31/12/2010 14:02

Let me try and address a few points below:

1. Should I buy an Elko Voltage Regulator or an Elko Voltage Protection Relay? I will advise everyone to buy a Voltage Protection Relay to protect the whole house. It is my invention and it retails at 100 TL. Despite the fact that it is the only protector of its kind in the market I kept the price as low as I could because I want everybody to avoid an expensive fault. It will cut off your supply if the voltage goes outside set limits. On the other hand a regulator mainly regulates the voltage and this is essential if you are living in an area with too high or too low voltages. This must be in addition to the Voltage protector.



2. (in answer to msg. 20). A loose or broken neutral connection can happen at any time and if it does your electrical items go down wholesale. Normal voltage in a house is 240 volts but when the neutral is broken theoretically it can go up to 415 volts i.e. an increase of 73%. Normally it goes up to 300 volts which is lethal. I think what happened in Ozankoy is not a broken neutral but an isolation problem in the step down transformer which reduces the voltage from 11,000 volts to 240 volts. With such a fault the voltage can rise up to thousands of volts which is very dangerous. It can happen with old and new transformers if the maintenance is not done properly and regularly i.e. the cooling oil should be checked for water and other ingredients periodically.

ismet

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
31/12/2010 23:39

msg. 7 Dataman wrote:

"A voltage regulator does give some protecton against the loss of the supply neutral conductor which is invariably the the cause of most "power surges" Make sure the regulator you purchase is up to the job (locally sourced ones will be suspect)."



Did you have a chance to examine my new Elko regulators, especially the SCR series (digital servomotor) and JJW series (Static with full filtration)? Both series cut off the output when the voltage goes outside set limits. How about Elko Voltage Protection relay? this is my design. When the voltage goes outside programmed lmits it will trip the RCD (Residual Current Device) which is a cheap way to protect the whole house?



I saw a regulator in the market which looked very much like mine and at first I mistook it as my Brand. It is IEKO brand. My brand is ELKO. Would you say it is intended to mislead? You better be careful.

ismet

gallowgate


Joined: 08/06/2009
Posts: 164

Message Posted:
11/01/2011 18:35

Hi Elko



We have two fuse boxes in our villa, one upstairs and one downstairs. Would one of your voltage protectors be sufficient for the whole Villa?

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
11/01/2011 19:33

msg 23.

I am sure one plugged into any spare socket will protect the whole house because there is always one main RCD that cuts off the whole house.

ismet

gallowgate


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Posts: 164

Message Posted:
11/01/2011 20:18

Thanks Elko, coming over in March, where can I buy one then?

elko2



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Message Posted:
11/01/2011 20:23

If you are in Girne, from Tektan or Smart Plus Furniture, my daughter's place.

ismet

janjin



Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 488

Message Posted:
11/01/2011 20:38

With respect to you Ismet is it really that easy to get surge / low current protection?

You buy one of your units and plug it into any spare socket - upstairs or downstairs (of a three bedroom villa) and therefore your equipment is safe including the Pool pump?

Forgive me for asking questions that have been posed but I'm not electrically confident.

Your website info asks for the plug in unit to be pressed 4 times etc, is this easy to set up?

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
11/01/2011 22:16

msg. 27

Janjin wrote:

"Your website info asks for the plug in unit to be pressed 4 times etc, is this easy to set up? "



Actually they are sold as fully set up, so you simply buy one and plug it into any spare socket. The instructions for the set up is given for those who wish to change the settings.

ismet

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
12/01/2011 14:06

I have tested one of these voltage protectors and can confirm that they are simply "plug-and-play" and do exactly what they say on the tin.

These protectors do protect ALL circuits, including the pool power supply, if this comes off the house distribution board, as most do.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
12/01/2011 14:32

Ismet

Just a quick technical question for you.

What is the measured response time from fault to trip?

AJ

janjin



Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 488

Message Posted:
12/01/2011 23:20

Thank you Ismet / TRNCVaughan.



Can I be lazy and ask were the nearest outlet is from Bahceli with any directions / landmarks, please?

We will be purchasing a unit.

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
13/01/2011 00:24

msg 30,

AJ wrote: "What is the measured response time from fault to trip?"

Good question AJ. I don't have the equipment to measure it but from personal experience it is under one second. Again I know from experience that if the neutral is broken and you get high voltage in the region of 300-350 volts, electronic equippment is damaged in about 4-8 seconds. However my device is not a "Surge Arrester" which protects equipment against very fast rising and very high voltages i.e. those that happens as a result of lightening strike such as 5KV/microsecond.



msg 31,

Janjin, nearest to you is Smart Plus furniture shop. Travelling from Bahcelli towards Girne, pass Lemar of Catalkoy and it is on your left about 200 yards farther down.

ismet

janjin



Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 488

Message Posted:
13/01/2011 14:57

Excellent Ismet,



I have bought furniture from your daughter.

I hope she and her family are well.



Are they held in stock or do I order one?

matt47r


Joined: 04/06/2010
Posts: 32

Message Posted:
13/01/2011 15:17

Msg #33,



I was in her store yesterday and bought one and it looked like she still had 3 or 4.

janjin



Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 488

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 14:19

Thanks matt47r

We will be about 5 weeks before we buy one.