For all you Lib/Dem Tory believers in The TRNC

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 23:11

Nice win for the Labour party in Oldam.I suppose you will all come up with usual excuses so lets hear them.Your ever loving Socialist Coachie...

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 23:19

they can have oldham its a shit hole

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 23:45

andyf you are absolutely right...bang on.............

davedee



Joined: 01/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 23:51

I told em Oldham !!

Jessie


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 145

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 00:16

Oldham East and Saddleworth to be precise. Went to Saddleworth for a wedding a few years back. Stunning countryside and far from a shit hole.

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 00:33

One of my best friends is from Oldham (Chadderton). He votes BNP. He has a multi million pound company and pays as little tax as possible, legally. Thats what accountants are for, tax avoidance.



Messages 2 and 3, he would totally agree with your comments.

basheer



Joined: 22/12/2008
Posts: 949

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 00:55

all those broken sworn promises No NO NO well

they are on the way out

Labour will return thats for sure

BillBarnacle


Joined: 20/04/2009
Posts: 167

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 01:20

With Labour you are always guaranteed one thing and that is when they are finally voted out of office they country will have been economically f----d up



And why the so called working class think Labour is better for them is priceless.Labour politicians dont give a toss about them but most are uneducated northerners to stupid to realise they are being had over

davedee



Joined: 01/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 01:41

Not a Brownite then Bill !

YFred


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 01:46

For those of us who can remember the past, it used to be 3 terms for the Tories until they fu**d up the country, Labour would then get in and carry out all the painful measures needed and would duly lose the next election. It's nice to see the same thing happen to the Tories for once. With what they are doing they will not be forgiven for a decade.

When you look at the interest rates the Labour left us alone with good old Mrs T's 17%, it says it all. But when they cut the milk and bread for the poor children is the point that made my mind up never to vote Tory and I intend to do it in perpetuity. Not that I ever voted for them.

Labour and CTP is the only way forward.

davedee



Joined: 01/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 01:49

17% Thats a new one !

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 01:56

Labour idiots again ?



1997 = 6.7%





and I might add a booming economy



2010 = bankruptcy (under Labour)

BillBarnacle


Joined: 20/04/2009
Posts: 167

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 02:39

I thought I would give the uneducated Labour rabble a chance to correct the spelling and grammatical errors in message 8 but they have not taken the opportunity.



Re message 9 - No i am not a Brownite but he was just a clot and no real danger, as everyone could see he was a walking disaster. It was BLAIR who was the real danger to our Country and he was another one who did not give a toss about the so called poor working class, or, anyone else for that matter.

yrret


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 761

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 06:52

I am as anti Bliar and the rest of the head in the sand party, but I do think this is a step in the right direction.

The UK was left in the worst state in living memory, but for the 'handout brigade' and remember under the labour system this was potentially families with a combined income of up to 52k with kids, this doesn't matter, all they want is their freebies, or so they think they are, not smart enough to understand that what arrives in one hand must be taken from the other.

However, the vast majority of the UK electorate are too thick to even understand their own simple financial situation, never mind that of a whole country, hence the massive credit card/mortgage problems.

I think that another bout of labour might just be enough to bring it home, when the pound is worth the square root of f##k all, and the costs of everything [imported] increases exponentially.

Add to this higher levels of inward migration and hopefully the real wake up call will arrive.

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 07:06

'Nice win for the Labour party in Oldam.I suppose you will all come up with usual excuses so lets hear them.Your ever loving Socialist Coachie... '



What knocking the conservatives after they gave you your chance to buy your council house Roachie



Sorry your days of free handouts will soon be in the past, it will take a long time to get us out of this Blarite mess.

kavenkoy


Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 1787

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 07:33

i dont politics as they are all free loading tossers,with their own hidden agenda.

however i live in north chadderton ,which sadly comes under oldham



oldham town centre and the mile radius is a asian infested shit hole .....not been for 5 years and as i am a manc have no intentions....now saddleworth is far from that,,,,rolling countryside and quaint villages etc



labour could never win in saddleworth so a few years ago they took all the terraced houses in gloddick ,less etc and lumped them into saddleworth ...ie oldham east and saddleworth . when it counts all politicians vote for themselves and fiddle their expenses still



kavi

Panchocat


Joined: 29/11/2009
Posts: 1333

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 10:13

Oh that's right BillBarnacle we all wear cloth caps and clogs in the North! NOT!!!



As a point of interest the biggest Labour supporters I Know are a family with a Cambridge degree father and two Cambridge degree daughters who happen to be Southerners!

kavenkoy


Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 1787

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 10:25

mess 2



andy dont tell me your from stockport when you write cheshire lol



kav



tight lines

silentbutdim


Joined: 07/09/2010
Posts: 121

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 10:52

The constituency deserves the MP it elects.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 12:01

Hippo(crit) Never ever lived in a council house,could not get one ,too many tories occupying them.Most of them voted tory only for a short while then when they found that they could not sell their council house for a huge profit,remember they only paid a fraction of the market price,they came back to labour.If the tories are the party of the "future" how come they are borrowing more than labour did at the height of the WORLD financial crisis. I may be getting on a bit but the tory party has never ever done anything that improved my lot and never will. the labour party introduced paid holidays ,NHS,working time directive etc .all of which benefitted the working man,but you lot have tried to destroy it,because greedy bosses do not like having to pay their slaves a decent wage.If that lot had their own way we would still be living in the 20,s. Should you wish to carry on referring to me as Roachie,then I shall refer to you as the above...

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 12:14

Roachie. why not try living in Russia, as for the labour party it is a Trade Union Movement nothing more.

trnclion


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 12:23

Bloody hell, why all the excitement over a party retaining a seat. Hardly changed the political landscape has it?

Labour don't have to do or say a thing for the next 3 years other than bait the coalition, Labours best bet is for the coalition to stay together whilst they lick their wounds & regroup.



Personally I no longer vote for any of the 3 main parties as in my eyes there's sod all difference between them, there all in it for one thing and one thing only, them selves.



Oh, one last thing, hardly a glorious win was it considering the original MP cheated to get the seat in the first place!

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 12:23

Well said Coachie,people really do have short memories.The problem with British politics these days though is the fact that there is no diversity anymore.The characters have gone,and all three parties seem to be singing,more or less from the same hymn sheet.I notice that The Daily Express are running a campaign to get Britain out of the E.U.Five years that would have been unthinkable.My old man will be smiling down from above,

Paul.

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 12:41

Ha ha ha coachie, still living in la la land then, msg 2 is about right, and turtle and hippo so well said!



Coachie we didn't want that seat lol x



Left it to the idiots who have brought our country to bankruptcy, its only when you come out and start shouting about your 'wonderful' unions and your socialist nonsense that it gives me such a laugh..... bless your little cotton socks..... x

Linnyloos


Joined: 30/11/2008
Posts: 483

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 13:20

I hate all these cuts. Mine and my partners jobs for one but they have to make these to clear the mess Labour always leave

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 22:57

Come on coachie, waiting for your next load of rubbish, next you will be saying it was the Conservatives put the fuel rises in that labour put through, Jan and next April rises are from your dippy lot.



Trust Ed, he's the man, stab his own brother in the back, how on earth can you even contemplate trusting his word... Labour have lived on lies for the past decade and with slim ball Ed there it will be no better....



A falser man there cannot be ....

Snaefell



Joined: 07/06/2009
Posts: 266

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 22:59

Labour left a note in a drawer when they left office: 'There is no money left.' This fact was quoted in the newspapers but Labour supporters like to forget the fact that their government got the country into this mess - not the coalition, who have the tough job of trying to put things right.

westender


Joined: 14/05/2009
Posts: 328

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 23:12

When my daughter was pregnant 18 months ago she got a nice sum of money from the Labour Government for fruit and vegs (or bingo and fags money as she and her friends laughingly called it), what a waste of money, I'm glad to see that's been scrapped.

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
15/01/2011 23:34

Well done you westender for highlighting what the majority of us know and don't try and defend. A blatant crass waste of hard working tax payers money.



You possibly want your daughter to be self sufficient and have a respect for life as like yourself I think.

The Labour government have sadly killed off this in a lot our youngsters.

westender


Joined: 14/05/2009
Posts: 328

Message Posted:
16/01/2011

Hi Dizzycows, my daughter is a teacher on good money and (sigh) a Labour supporter but even she thought it was a real waste of money. In the discussions we had, we decided it would have been better to target help in the form of supermarket vouchers only to be spent on fruit & veg & only to those women who REALLY needed it.

We've got to go back to taking responsibility for own lives & not think that it's always someone elses fault.

I wouldn't normally get involved in political arguements but I feel very strongly about this.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 00:10

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1347427/Cherie-Blair-wore-pendant-ward-evil-spirits-No-10-says-Alastair-Campbell.html



What can one say





Spider,X

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 00:15

notice coachie has not come back, come on coachie lets here your warbling of endearments of misguided nonsense lol .....

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 00:19

Just please tell me what party is responsible for this, because to me they are both the bloody same.useless...this sort of thing needs to be stopped and right NOW........... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1347297/Somali-250k-benefits-cheat-Ayan-Abdulle-described-Britain-land-easy-money.html



A bloody disgrace and laughing stock both government's have become over the years





Spider,X

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 00:25

and another http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1346463/MP-Eric-Illsley-quits-Commons-pleading-guilty-14k-expenses-fraud.html Now we all know whatever party they are in they have been for years at it A bloody load of -iss heads..





Spider,X

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 00:27

spider...I agree this is ridiculous and disgusting...but unfortunately happening all the time....

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 00:27

WOW, ...........................now look here



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1347253/David-Cameron-Its-wrong-revenge-250k-bank-bonuses.html







Spider,X

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 00:30

She cannot be deported because she has been granted British citizenship!



She lied, her British citizenship should be revoked, She should be kicked out of the country.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 00:41

and another...I like most are sick of reading all their crap....



http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/01/16/condems-steal-from-our-kids-even-before-they-are-born-115875-22851850/





Spider,X

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 00:43

To describe anyone's home as a "shithole" is just not unacceptable! Is this the Tory answer?

Shame on you! Congrats. to Labour win, and long live Democracy!

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 01:22

phylray, you have obviously never visited Oldham. There are some nice areas but there are a lot of no go areas because of the racist asians who will not allow caucasians to even enter their council estates. A few years ago an old man (caucasian) was hobbling home one night with his walking stick. He decided to take a short cut through one of the estates and got beat to death by a gang of asian thugs.



My best friend is from Oldham. 2009/2010 New years eve his son got hit with a bottle over the head because he was man enough to join the army and fight for Queen and Country and earn a very good wage for a 16 year old. He now has a great big scar on his forehead. The bloke who did it got let off and my mates son got a pittance of £3000 in compensation. He has that scar for the rest of his life.!!!!!!

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 11:57

Think that a lot politicians in the past have been milking the system, just as all those in spiders above posts!



Labour were the ones championing this 'daft human rights' policy, it has worked against the real issues in our society. Its encouraged the sort of trash no one would give the time of day too, and the victims are left unprotected.

It protects those that milk our government, at all our expense. An awful lot of laws need updating, especially the human rights issue, another legacy of labour.



To get back to the original post, most of us know, the conservative party did not push for the seat coachie is harping on about, .......

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 12:11

msg40..LaptaMike. When Enoch Powell predicted this kind of behaviour he was "Pilloried"by Ted Heath..He should have been Knighted

YFred


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 12:32

Martin you need some help mate. What Powell predicted was rivers of blood between Black and white. What we had in the riots was black and whites against the police. But the real question is why? I don't suppose you know so I should tell you.

Sus laws, where a police man can stop and search at will and all they had to do was say so no need for proof. To top it, a person could go to prison for 6 months because a racist copper felt like it.



So as I say you need more hep then Powell ever did.



The real Irony was that it was he as minister who went out and invited these people to leave their homes and come to england.

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 12:37

msg43 I think you should re-read his speech,

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 12:57

Here we go.............



http://www.vigay.com/misc/riversofblood.html







Spider,X

kavenkoy


Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 1787

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 13:00

message 40



lapta mike ...i live in chadderton,where is your friend ,who?



the estates they talk about are never no go areas t white man...believe me if its a jehad they want ,thats what they will get ...i vote bnp and when the day comes the mass will take back little parts of britain



kav

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 13:25

email please give my sister a job... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1347579/Tory-rebel-tears-torn-father-David-Cameron-heated-vote.html





try giving it to one of the unemployed





Spider,X

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 13:39

and who will pay for a messy divorce





http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/05/12/david-cameron-and-nick-clegg-s-marriage-of-convenience-will-end-in-divorce-115875-22251671/





Spider,X

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 13:44

LaptaMike I may or may not have visited Oldham, a long time ago, as I lived near Manchester, and Hyde

for many years. Now living close to my birthplace in Ayrshire, but 2 years ago a young soldier was killed

by a local man (or animal) on drink/drugs, and that was in a pretty little village with no racial problems.

I am very well aware of the problems in Oldham but there are also plenty of good people living there too who

don't deserve to have their home described so.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 13:54

Oh well enough said





http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/8262420/MP-reports-six-colleagues-to-police-over-expenses.html





Spider,X

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 14:20

meas(l)y its just as well we have the unions supporting the labour party because as I have alre4ady said we would still be living in 1820,s



B.Bill..we are far to polite to do that sort of thing and it is frowned upon on

this board to correct others spelling/grammar



Dizzy..try telling Nick Clegg that they did not want to win.The tories were not bothered but it has reduced their majority by one.As for the fuel hike,he had the right to stop it in his firast budget and we were not going to put up vat so he has hit you with a double blow. Now he has done a U turn over the bankers.Keeps going at this rate and he will give it up altogether. As for your continous howling about these single mothers and benefit scroungers you or any other government will or wont change it because it is to hot to handle and it will on long after you and I are not here. I do not support these "professional sroungers" in any way and like you would love to see them caught and hammered,but it costs to much

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 14:35

thought you had buddered off and left coachie, ..... you are wrong about sorting out the benefit scroungers, they are and have started to do so. Unfortunately a lot of the real needy never seem to get the proper help, its always those that know how to 'play' the system..... I just hope that by trying to bring back a few of the old fashioned values re family life etc, GB might get back on to a happier footing.

You, coachie cannot tell me you think that a single mother living on welfare, house found, no partner is the real way to bring up family, and then have a respect of having a value of living in the real world? Don't think so, do you......

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 14:44

Forgot to say too, that you have a fine example of a family man that Labour tried to say they were upholding ..Ed Milliband, your so called leader, couldn't even put his name to his first child on the birth cert!!! He has now, but there is a man who portrays something he is not..... This he nly did so because of pressure from within his party... The Labour party through and through, a sham....



A back stabber to his own, ...... shame on him .... Cain and Able come to mind somehow ...

davedee



Joined: 01/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 14:53

It has not reduced their majority it was already a labour seat

greenman


Joined: 16/02/2008
Posts: 526

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 15:00

He he!! Coachie displaying a grasp of mathematics that his government had, and which Ed Milliband has inherited if his performance on the BBC Andrew Marr show earlier has anything to go by.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 15:53

dave ...thought the result was declared void because of some bad stories by the previous incumbent



Dizzy..He id nothe only one.If it suits the two of them thats yp to them and nobody else.He is still a family man and you do not need a p iece of paper to prove it. Lots of people with the paper are not as they portray...John Major comes to mind...



Like I say Dizzy,It is a way of life nowadays,we will not change it,but you seem to be under the impression that they are all bad people.They do not get all that amount of help,I certainly would not like to try and do it. Perhaps yopu ought to give it atry Dizzy(lol).They do not get a house just because they are pregnant,have to over 18. Any assistance they have with money to buy furniture has to be paid back,and it is, before you say anything.They have to agree what they will pay back each week and it is automatically deducted from there benefit. Not many of them stay in their free houses,to costly,and end up back at home....

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 16:14

Coachie. Last paragraph speaking from an experience?

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
16/01/2011 17:07

woodspeckie..in a way yes .My grandson and his girlfriend split up and he left.Without his support she could not manage so she went to her mums,much to her mums disgust at having another daughter and child on her hands...

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
17/01/2011 11:32

Well coachie, perhaps 'mums' should say, like our mums did years ago, you were old enough to get into a relation ship and have a child, you are old enough to start sorting out your own life!!! In other words, you made your bed you lie in it....

Makes you soon grow up.... Think thats the whole problem of today, every one expects someone else to sort their problems out! ......

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
17/01/2011 12:04

So grandson up and leaves his responsibilty, girlfriend goes back to Mum who is disgusted,(so she should be) so daughter goes to benefits office, gets looked after by us the taxpayer, can't be bad can it, father of the child doesn't have to bother.

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
17/01/2011 13:53

woodspeckie absolutely right, as I have stated perhaps if these so called"grownups" took contol of their own actions, took responsibility , we tax payees would all be better off.....



coachie as its your grandson, perhaps you could give him a word of advise if he wants to become a 'proper grownup' .... sort his own problems out!!......

greenman


Joined: 16/02/2008
Posts: 526

Message Posted:
17/01/2011 14:17

Creating reliance upon the state is what Labour is all about - after all how else can they drum up votes - oh! of course another way is by making boundary changes as in the Oldham constituency in question, and also creating a great swathe of public purse funded posts (civil servants) in marginal and Labour strongholds.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
17/01/2011 14:43

woodspeckie..before you pass comments you should know the full story.I actually agreed with him and 99.9% of men would agree also.. Father of the c hild does bother,has his daughter every weekendand pays what he can out of his part time wage.No full time jobs arond here.I dont have to give him any advice his mum and dad do,but how many 20 year olds listen to you???

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
17/01/2011 14:55

send him down here, get him a full time job, not this part time stuff where he can claim benefits too.... might just make a man of him, or not lol.. If he cant get a full time job around where he is, then go somewhere where he can find full time work.. its called self reliance coachie, MOVE... like the rest of us have had to do...



greenmail you are right about labour relying on the state, they basically rely on you and me to feed, cloth and house them .. .... such a sad bunch really

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
17/01/2011 15:01

greenman..You seem to be under the impression that there are only labour people who are receiving benefits!!! I knew a confirmed tory who stopped working aqfter his 5 child was borne because of the benefits he was getting. When I asked him why he voted tory when it was a socialist idea that ws keepingn him, answer "ITs where I live and I am a member of the Conservative club because the beer was cheaper" And I be he is only one of thousands who do the same. Take what they can get and hope the tories win cos they might get a tax cut......

greenman


Joined: 16/02/2008
Posts: 526

Message Posted:
17/01/2011 15:06

"99.9% of men would agree also" - then speaking on behalf of the 0.1% I do not agree that relationships where children are involved should be so easily 'split up'. What has happened to responsibility? No doubt your grandson and his ex partner will be expecting their rights - and that is where the last labour government failed particularly badly by giving, the feckless in particular, the idea that they can expect their rights to be upheld even though they have no intention of meeting their obligations to leading a socially responsible life.

greenman


Joined: 16/02/2008
Posts: 526

Message Posted:
17/01/2011 15:11

Coachie, if the Tory voter in your story had stopped working, how was a Tory tax cut going to be of benefit to him? He sounds like one of those in our society who will use the system to gain a benefit - you don't really believe he was a Tory voter do you??

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
17/01/2011 22:53

GREENMAN...He certainly was ,through and through.



Dizzy.. I really do believe at times that you sometimes speak before you engage your brain.Its not that easy for a young person to move just like that. Firms all over the country are relying on part time workers rather than full time,it suits them with their tax fiddles. He is employed by Alton Towers on an alledged FULL time job yet his contract says O hrs under hours of employment.When he went to the Employment exchange to ask about assistance they said he had a job.Some weeks he only works one day others he does not work at all.I am still trying to work out how ,if you have a full time job your employer does not have to pay you a set amount of hours.He is available all week but gets no work. There has to be something a foot here but he gets no benefit whatsoverso if he packs this so called job in ,he gets no unemployment benefit. You re like Green man you think all benefit recipients are labour people. How sadly wrong you are!!!

Jessie


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 145

Message Posted:
18/01/2011 12:05

sadly there are no go areas for whites in parts of Oldham and I dare say elsewhere. The BNP are not and never will be the answer. I was in a pub frequented by a well known BNP acitvist. When he finished freeloading off some of the more ignorant locals he called for a cab. The Asian driver walked in to get him only to be told to 'f off I don't want a paki cab'. The saddest part of all is that the cab company sent the guy another cab. BNP are the lowest of the low.

kavenkoy


Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 1787

Message Posted:
18/01/2011 15:26

sadly there are no go areas for whites in parts of Oldham and I dare say elsewhere. message 69



who says ? do you live in oldham jessie ?



its not about no go areas ,its trying to live together



i cant stand the way they have turned the country into some areas of bradistan ....but oldham town centre is a cassie ,like the kyber pass in places ....but oldham area (62nd largest uk town) is great out in the suburbs



kav

ScubaBoy9


Joined: 19/07/2010
Posts: 87

Message Posted:
18/01/2011 15:47

I think this sums up how Labour had been overspending. Glad they wern't around for another term



Britain’s government debt smashed through £1trillion for the first time yesterday – a staggering £40,000 per household.



The national debt stood at just over £300billion a decade ago and was less than £500billion five years ago.

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
18/01/2011 18:34

Inflation rate now at its highest for several years the national debt carries on rising. Oh dear the Conoltion starting to lose control so soon.



Cameron going back on his promises of curbing bankers honey pot. Clegg wants ment to have up to 10 months full paid maternity leave, tell that to a small business. and these are the clowns wanting to lower the debt!!

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
18/01/2011 19:23

Message 72 do you know why the national debt carries on rising, I guess that you don't.



It is because the interest payments on the debt we were lumbered with by the Labour lot keeps on rising, also the Labour lot commited the UK to future expenditure (contracts which if cancelled would cost more that fulfilling) . This is another reason why the national debt is increasing.

Jessie


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 145

Message Posted:
18/01/2011 19:46

Message 70 - close to Oldham. I also have good friends living in Chadderton , Shaw, Springhead etc etc The first paragraph in Laptamikes Msg 40 was entirely accurate. It's not just Oldham, the same can be said for parts of Burnley, Bradford, Halifax etc etc. In all too many of our towns and cities there is no integration merely two groups managing to co-exist in the main peacefully.

kavenkoy


Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 1787

Message Posted:
18/01/2011 20:09

i live in north chadderton near to chadderton park ,,,from moston originally jessie



take it easy



kav

Jessie


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 145

Message Posted:
18/01/2011 20:26

My best mate is from round that neck of the woods. he worked in the Broadway for years.

Jovial_John


Joined: 31/01/2009
Posts: 1024

Message Posted:
19/01/2011 09:08

Jessie you forgot Leicester - the first city in the UK to have a minority Caucasian population. The city that even as far back as 1995 stopped all city financed Christmas celebration (no Christmas tree or decorations) but donated £50,000 to the Diwali festival.

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
20/01/2011 19:29

The ex-postman has resignes as shadow chancellor and now Ed Balls-up takes his place.



Hopefully he will know the difference between NHI and VAT rates

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
21/01/2011 23:14

LOVING CYPRUS...I dont think George Osbourne likes the idea. Ed Balls is a trained ECONOMIST which should see some interesting discussions in the House....

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
21/01/2011 23:23

A trained economist who helped our Gordon to get the country in a state.

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
21/01/2011 23:40

hi ya coachie, don't make me laugh this time of the night, I cant go to sleep when you come out with such a cracker as that statement ..... Yes he was right behind gordon in helping him ruin our country ... Economist.. what a laugh......

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
22/01/2011 00:46

Balls up with brown certainly ended boom and bust the UK is BUST



What a brilliant trained economist balls up is perhaps he didn't have enough training

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
22/01/2011 04:02

Dear Coachie,



I'll be brief...



no party 'won' the last election, but Labour assuredly didn't 'win' it.. The Tories got the most votes and we need a govt with the 'Balls' ( not Ed's) to implement some unpleasant cuts - as we cannot go on spending money we ain't got.. ( Thank you last govt.)



No Coalition is forever, but the difference from THIS coalition and the last Lib/Lab one was.. THAT one was about hanging on in power.. when it was time to go.. THIS one is about a 'fresh start' ..



It's hilarious to hear the rantings of a Labour voter - them fresh from been kicked out - 'coz they won a safe seat..



I seem to remember Mrs T was deeply unpopular for sticking to her economic guns and walked the next two elections... ;)



There's not must you can do in opposition... except watch t'other parties attempt to get us out of the mess that Mr 'Prudent' Brown screwed up .... and it turns out the books were in an even worse state than were thought.. :(

Jessie


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 145

Message Posted:
22/01/2011 08:47

If the country has been ruined then wasn't it ruined like virtually every other developed economy by issues with the money markets originating from the US sub-prime market? Not entirely sure how that is Gordon Brown or Ed Balls fault although I can see how it suits the blue rinse brigade to blame the labour party for a world wide problem.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
22/01/2011 10:03

Dear Jessie,



the 'blue rinse brigade' certainly seem to have a better grasp of economic facts than your good-self.



OF COURSE we can't blame the previous administration for all the woes of the world recession - but we can call them to account for 'fibbing' about the 'state of the books'..



What ever happened to Brown telling us that the UK was better prepared to come out of any recession ? ;)

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
22/01/2011 13:02

mmmmmm's you Michael Portillo Lookalike!.... you sound exactly like him as well. Will you be standing in the next election for the blue rinse brigade ? (hope yo uare well)



Coachie you are outgunned on this forum as being a working class labourite by these hupper classes that can afford to invest in Cyprus and walk around with their nose's stuck up in the air.



Mr Cameron lied to the electorate in the lead up to the election. " At this present time I have no intention to raise VAT" and other pledges that were worded to fool the public. one of so many



I am looking forward to Mr Assange's "Wikileaks" proposed publication of the "OFF Shore" Tax Haven accounts of tax dodgers that have stashed £trillions away for a rainy day. I bet a lot of the blue rinse will be cacking themselves.....makes a council house benefit scrounger look like a Saint!



Let him or her without sin cast the first stone.......

smwredd


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 260

Message Posted:
22/01/2011 13:37

Can I ask WHY we are discussing the political situation in the UK on Cyprus44. I had thought that this was a forum to discuss issues concerning TRNC and the residents thereof. I had also thought it was a non political platform but from the above comments it is just a vehicle for 'slagging off' fellow ex pats who hold a different political view to yourself. I think there are enough problems to address here in NC without this sort of non productive discussion.

Jessie


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 145

Message Posted:
22/01/2011 13:48

I would have thought the state of the world economy and particularly the UK has a significant effect on the TRNC. Less holiday makers, less people investing in property, no buyers for those in the TRNC wanting to sell up and move etc etc



Re MSG 85. If you look around the Eurozone at many countries eg Ireland Spain Greece Portugal then I would say Brown had it about right.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
22/01/2011 15:28

What I have an issue with is people who say “I have always voted for this party, so I always will” or “My father would turn in his grave if he know I voted for this other party”. This way of thinking lacks the critical ability to analyse which party at that time, is best suited to deal with the current and future issues. It’s about having an awareness of the context, history and future projections. It’s about which party has the collective wisdom, skills and knowledge to deal with what is being presented, the life conditions that the country faces and is likely to face.



Those who don’t subject themselves to scrutiny are also often heard saying things like “they didn’t say that in their manifesto”. I have got news for you, consistency is no longer a virtue, it is a dangerous concept in a world which is increasingly unpredictable. I want my leader to stand fast where necessary, but I want them to change their minds when the facts presented to them don’t tally up.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
22/01/2011 15:30

Gordon Brown is to be congratulated in keeping Britain out of the Eurozone, however he and his party is largely responsible for our financial instability. Yes, there was a world wide financial disaster, however Britain was structurally weak, which the economic disaster showed. It is a very dangerous position for a country to be in, when it starts to fall down the world rankings, but that’s another story.



Brown made a fundamental error in believing that ‘boom and bust’ was a concept of the past. He tried to build the economy by fattening up the public sector. What he was effectively doing was bribing lots of people to keep him in power. He spent and wasted the money we had. He did not diversify the economy nor save for a rainy day which is what Germany did. (Many individuals are also complicit in not saving). Our education ratings have fallen down the world rankings and our NHS, although improved is still pitiful if you compare it to countries like France.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
22/01/2011 15:31

We missed a golden opportunity under Blair and Browns stewardship.



Generally, I value the concept of a coalition, especially with two such opposing ways of seeing the world. There will be lots of diverse ideas in the mix and it is going to be a challenge for them to come to agreement on certain matters.. Unfortunately, some good ideas will get watered down

Jovial_John


Joined: 31/01/2009
Posts: 1024

Message Posted:
22/01/2011 16:07

The biggest mistake Brown made was to sell the UK's gold reserves at a pitifully low price - about 25% of the current price. If we still had that gold then the UK would not be in such a dire straits.

The second biggest mistake was to destroy the pension system with his ill-advised (the advice was from Arthur Andersens who susequently collapsed as part of the Enron fraud) taxation on pension fund dividend receipts. This created a huge downturn in pension investments and a consequent negative impact on the stock marnet - which in turn devalued pension funds even further. Companies providing fully or partially funded pensions for their emplyees had to make massive additional contributions which left them financially weak when the economic crisis hit.

dataman


Joined: 14/06/2010
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
22/01/2011 18:11

Labour will be in exile for years to come, and I say good.



The poor British Public are now having to suffer years of misery, thanks to their profligacy and incompetent

management of the economy during their tenure of office.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
22/01/2011 18:19

If you expect any politician to tell you the truth then you will have a long wait,

they all say one thing then do another however;….if you want a party to manage the

economy (which we do) then keep labour away from the till.

History tells us all that Labour bankrupt the economy every time they get hold of

the cheque book .

The policy of Labour does not sit well with simple economics, it has already been said that

you can not spend what you do not have but this basic rule of solvency is totally

ignored under Labour.

The problem now is all those who supported Labour over the last 10 years are the one moaning

like hell now its all got to be paid back………. serves you right……..so stop moaning .

Jovial_John


Joined: 31/01/2009
Posts: 1024

Message Posted:
22/01/2011 18:29

I think you are wrong dataman - the British public have short memories. In 4 years time they will only remember that the coalition made all the cuts - they will not remember who caused the problem. Sadly I think Labour will not suffer as they deserve.