stop this trend, its getting too much

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 12:47

am i the only one who is getting sick of this constant begging for re homing animals??





Going back to the UK, get a loan, beg borrow steal,fundraise TAKE YOUR DOGS WITH YOU !!!





how anyone can part with their pets bewilders me??





These pets have feelings ,grow attatched to owners, love their owners,to me its like leaving your kid behind.





Sorry but where there is a will there is a way....make it happen .take your so called beloved pets home with you!!!



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metin


Joined: 08/09/2008
Posts: 1588

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 12:57

Absolutely correct......... What happened to a dog is for life ??????



I don't know how people can do it......it breaks my heart.

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 13:03

Thankyou so much for being brave enough to post your opinions. I am in full agreement with you and think it is pathetic to whine about not being able to take them back.



This is one of the things which should be considered prior to homing one of these poor abandoned creatures.



I even know of people who asked their neighbours to mind their dog for 2 weeks and never came back!

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 13:03

I know Metin..........horrible isnt it :( i just imagine those poor animals losing their homes and onwers...or sentenced to death!!

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 13:07

i totally agree Susan.....i took a dog back from abroad..i arrived home penniless, no home, no job, i would have sold my soul to the devil if needed....but i did it purely because he was my responsibility and i loved him.....when i moved here i vowed never to have another dog.





I cant believe people can be so selfish!!!

Scoty


Joined: 23/05/2010
Posts: 846

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 13:08

In full agreement - about 15 dog related posts in the top half of first page seems a bit over the top. As has been suggested on another thread, can a separate area be made - similar to items wanted - then we do not have to scroll down the page by passing all dog related posts to get to one we want to read.

Just my opinion ofcourse and I have nothing against any animal being given a good loving home

shrimp


Joined: 01/09/2010
Posts: 939

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 13:11

ditto my thoughts Scoty, love all animals to bits but it needs it's own topic page it is getting to be too much, and too painful to read.........

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 13:13

you hit the nail on the head Scoty.......items wanted/unwanted !!









i agree with you

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 13:15

We had 3 cats from KAR but now 2 as one killed by a snake. We often believe that we should take in a homeless dog and perhaps another cat. However, our 2 cats are our children and although we have no plans to move from Cyprus we always have to force ourselves to bear in mind the cost of taking our children with us. The reality is that our love of animals has to be tempered by our financial capacity in the interest of the animals as well as ourselves.

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 13:19

So true...deputydawg..............thats what they are, they rely on us as children do ...you wouldnt leave your kids behind, so why leave your animals?

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 13:21

A very good topic and good posts, when we where leaving the UK our neighbour, asked me what was going to happen to our cat, and I replied its going to cost us a bout a £1,000 to take him, so he's a grand cat and he's coming with of of course.



She was amazed, then she said, why dont you just have him put down, and buy a new one when you get there.

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 13:22

hahah Johnnylee ...i still cant believe the things people say...Lucky cat

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 13:37

msg8 Moxie...Trouble is in the TRNC the "UNWANTED" out way the "WANTED"............Animals don't get to choose..........If you take on an animal you" Through Choice" become its Guardian....And the responsibilities of the Guardianship are a serious matter, not a passing fancy..

kaz13


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 157

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 13:41

and what a lovely cat he is , he has his own chair and the best place in front off the fire , and is treated like a king bless him , cant wate for a cuddle with him when i am back

Whistler


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 1332

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 13:46

Moxie. So glad you had the courage to open this thread. I am tempted to answer `Take it with you`

on so many of these threads but know someone will come back with a nasty answer. I no longer open the threads that I know people are asking people to take their animals. Why, why, why, do they take them in the first place when maybe there is a risk they may not be able to keep them. I know people will say well at least they had a good life for a while. This is not the point, yes they have a good life and, as such, those who take them in should be able to ensure that good life carries on for them. I have a dog and two cats, the latter of which I did not want to take but did so because my friend who gave us the cat was on holiday and was going back the day it lost its leg. This was nearly three years ago, she is still with us and very much part of the family and if we have to go back, they will come with us.

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 13:47

glad there are some responsible people still here





I think your cat Kaz is the one who got the cream

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 13:53

Funny i dont feel brave ...but i just hoped that someone who is contemplating leaving their pet may read this and reconsider.



A good life for a while, thats like adopting an orphan ,giving it a lovely life for a couple of years , then sending it back to the orphanage !!. That love and care should go on unconditionally till the end of their days .



Thanks whistler

shrimp


Joined: 01/09/2010
Posts: 939

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 14:08

acutally there already is a page on here specially for animal related postings, as there is for Estate Agents, restaurants, beaches and many other topics, could the mods not re direct these numerous amounts of animal related postings to the appropriate page.....thus leaving it clear for other topics..........just a thought............?



shrimp

Denise


Joined: 14/03/2009
Posts: 590

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 14:13

i too can't believe the amount of people willing to leave their beloved cat or dog behind and i would also beg steal or borrow to take mine back if necessary. i brought my cat from the uk but my dog was an unwanted one here and he is so much a part of the family. some people say they took in a stray and fed and loved it while they were here but if they go back their attitude is well it's not really 'my' dog!! these people cannot really love animals can they? if they did how could they leave them behind? they love us unconditionally how can we not do the same! it breaks my heart about the animals here and i cannot open a thread if i know it is a sad animal story, it is too painful. i am a KAR shop volunteer and just last week a very tiny puppy wandered into the shop. from where we do not know, how can these people continue to dump these animals like they dump their rubbish?

Scoty


Joined: 23/05/2010
Posts: 846

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 14:17

Re msg 18 - I could be wrong but I think that if a thread is open mentioning dogs etc, it automatically gets copied into the 'animal' tag. That is what i was trying to suggest in my previous post but didn't realise that there was a special area for dogs / cats etc. until you mentioned it. The animal tag has all of the other dog related posts there as well as on the main forum page.

shrimp


Joined: 01/09/2010
Posts: 939

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 14:30

yes, I had mentioned exactly the same thoughs as you on another posting, as like yourself hadnt realized the animal tag was already there......but there are lots of things on their eg... for sale/wanted that dont come on the main forum page so wondered what the difference was.....maybe a mod could explain??????????????

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 14:33

Well said Denise...there is a huge stray animal problem here..These people are so not helping by leaving their animals here

shrimp


Joined: 01/09/2010
Posts: 939

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 14:33

I have also just spotted in the popular tags, not only an 'animal' tag, but a 'dog' one too???

stilluvithere



Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 765

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 14:39

I put up a notice asking if anyone wants 2 cat sisters, one grey and the other black, I can't stand cats but someone dumped them in my garden as tiny kittens and I have fed them daily. I didn't want them and I still don't so if anyone does phone me 0542 8833085

Linnyloos


Joined: 30/11/2008
Posts: 483

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 14:50

I agree with all posts. Take the poor animals with you as you would your children, otherwise don't take them on in the first place!



Also, if you do take an animal on and don't want any 'unwanted' extras, then you should make sure you have the animal neutered, male or female.

Linnyloos


Joined: 30/11/2008
Posts: 483

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 14:52

I should have added that it breaks my heart to see how many animals are killed on the roads because of irresponsible owners. How sad

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 14:57

Good Luck Stilluvithere !!





Not to mention endangering lives of drivers, Linnyloos.

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 15:15

someone on another thread daid that they couldn't take their dogs with them because they couldn't find accommodation that would allow pets



I wonder what would happen if they couldn't find accommodation that allows children. Would they then leave the children behind.



I think we know the answer to that don't we.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 15:22

Just remember that once you take these dogs into your home and feed them they become your responsibility. If circumstances change and you have to go back to the UK then take them with you, don't expect other people to take on your responsibilities, I get so sick and tired of hearing how people can't afford to take them back, again, they are your responsibility.

I love dogs, but, we have children who live abroad and so will be visiting them, that is why we won't have a dog, we do not want to take on the responsibility then burden someone else with it.

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 15:37

yes im sure that funds can be found by most of these people.....i found it and i had nothing.....i sold everything i had to get mine home

fosterscan


Joined: 27/02/2010
Posts: 541

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 15:37

alot of people take the dogs in not as they want them its because they feel sorry for them roaming around they are not children so don't compare them.more people should look after them and stop them roaming and breading but these dogs shouldn't have to go back with them when they leave.

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 15:44

message 31





A dog or any pet is for life.



It is no good feeling sorry for them and then having to get rid of them.

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 15:53

I agree Fosterscan just take them in ...feed them ,give them hope then dump them ..NOT!!

lovely way to treat an animal that relies on you, many of these dogs are also brought from the UK !!

mugged


Joined: 27/03/2009
Posts: 83

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 16:10

are you talking about animals or peoples feelings ? i have rescued 2 bull terriers ( not at same time ) and anybody that knows dogs will know how difficult this would be once the dog has settled elsewhere , after time they both settled in and would ignored there previous owners, so i think a dog will love anybody that treats them in the correct way ?.

stevo-london


Joined: 23/10/2010
Posts: 253

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 16:17

and we are sen as the animal loving society...

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 16:21

I would like to know if these people that are looking for home for their pets ,because they are going back, are they packing up their furniture and shipping all their belongings back with them. As we came here with 8 cases a dog and cat well, belonging can be replaced, all I needed was my personal family things. It would make sense to me if they used the money instead for the cost of their pets return with them, all would be happy, So if you do know of someone shipping goods back and wanting homes for their beloved pets. Please please have a little word with them. And if you yourself think that you may well need to pack up and go, Take your cases your cats and dogs, YOU CAN MAKE A NEW HOME ANYWHERE. and I can tell its a damb lot cheaper..Think about it !





Spider,X

Scoty


Joined: 23/05/2010
Posts: 846

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 16:25

Great post spider - people have to prioritise. Obvious where a lot of priorities lie - unfortunately

louthlass


Joined: 09/11/2008
Posts: 271

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 16:26

I think we did it the right way in1983, we brought out our beloved 10 year old english bullterrier, and left the kids behind!!!

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 16:28

Good post Louthlass so did we That gave me a laugh,thanks.







Spider,X

goingback


Joined: 13/01/2011
Posts: 94

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 16:41

we are taking our back to uk lab we brought out and little Cypriot dog who adopted us.



NO way would we consider going without them.



http://farm1.static.flickr.com/41/74721211_4a55c0767e_z.jpg

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 16:45

goingback I wish you all the luck in the world with your husbands health,selling your villa and setting up home again with your wonderful two dogs. GOOD FOR YOU, love.







Spider,X

fosterscan


Joined: 27/02/2010
Posts: 541

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 16:47

moxie rather hope love and food for a few years than walk past with your nose in the air.Dump these people are trying to find new homes not dump them.

Scoty


Joined: 23/05/2010
Posts: 846

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 16:50

Msg 42 -agree people looking for new homes for these pets, but what will happen when none can be found?

fosterscan


Joined: 27/02/2010
Posts: 541

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 17:03

They may well be dumped back where they were found as a last resort not taken lightly if they were taken over with them yes they should have to take them back again.

as for the strays taking them to the uk is not the answer the uk has its own problems with dogs. A trip to the vets for sleep is the best way forward.

http://www.battersea.org.uk/about_us/what_we_do/key_stats.html

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 17:27

Unfortunately this is a trend that will continue, as is evident from those seeking homes for their dogs or homes for abandoned dogs. It appears that more and more people are returning home or moving to pastures new.



I agree with Fosterscan, please don't just abandon your pets, its heart breaking to see so many emaciated, battered looking dogs, roaming the streets. Its far kinder to take them to the vets and put to sleep, if all other attempts have failed.

paddywack


Joined: 04/05/2009
Posts: 959

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 17:51

Article in Daily Mail today, lady returned her rescued dog because it`s colour didn't match her new curtains.

Teresa


Joined: 21/11/2007
Posts: 1018

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 18:30

I know of 4 healthy dogs that have been put down in the last month because owners were going back to UK. Yes circumstances do change but when you have had a dog from a puppy or even taken it in from the streets how you can then just put it in the car and take it to its death is beyond me.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 18:54

teresa ditto I posted on a forum of late about this don't take a dog in unless you are prepared to see it through to the end of its life, taking it in for years is worse then trying to find a home for it after several- terrible



I would never dream of giving my 7 year old away she is part of my family



callous at

best heartless at least

mahdel


Joined: 28/05/2009
Posts: 255

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 19:02

@msg 47, while it is indeed terrible, it must be said it's probably better for the dog to be humanely put down than just dumped, as they would likely be if they weren't put to sleep. What really amazes me is how often people "are forced to return to the UK at short notice". This seems to happen to several families a week. Obviously they have plenty of time to sort out their return tickets, probably even their accomodations, jobs etc. for their return. What is the difficult part about getting a dog back compared to that? Hell you have 6 months from the time you leave to figure out everything else while the dog is in quarantine. I suspect most of these are people who came out here without much in the way of brains or money and thought they'd live like a king, only to find out its not as easy or cheap as they thought. I refrain from posting on individual threads, as I know some people are in legitimately difficult situations, but I am using this thread to pour out all my disgust.

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 19:11

It doesn't always work like that mahdel, the way the housing market is it more likely works out the way my sale did.

It went on for more than a year, then suddenly the sale went through. No chance to plan flights or anything else.

Don't get me wrong, I do not condone the dumping of animals, but it is not always that easy for people to plan ahead.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 19:13

Does anybody know the procedure to be followed to get them back. injections etc and the time scale x

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 19:20

Lilli I think we are fundamentelly singing from the same hymn sheet I hate to see animals suffer !! be donkeys cats dogs - and you do more and more than most.



Owners, whether circumstances change or not MUST see through their responsibilities- so people like you DO NOT have to take these animals in and find homes for them !!



TAKE THEM WITH YOU - OR DONT TAKE THEM AT ALL !!

fatboy



Joined: 05/11/2008
Posts: 244

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 19:22

pets are part of the family,they go where you go.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 19:23

fatboy couldn't put it better

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 19:28

I only wish they would sienna. I dread going to work some days to find another tied to a chair. I am accused on another thread of being as bad as all the others. As I asked for someone to care for Tessa.I dont post about her on here now as so many are trying to rehome. Not a day goes by when I do not see something that breaks my heart x We should get car stickers like one of the animal charties in UK. A Dog Is For Life not just for christmas.. Someone mentioned its 4000 pounds to get them back. Is that the airfare and quartine as I thought that could be paid monthly x

Whistler


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 1332

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 19:28

If you dont want the expense of quarantine, then take them back through France or Germany. There is an organisation called QUAFF who will do it all for you and deliver them to your door in UK. yes, you will have to become a member. These are the people who went to court in UK and got the original pet passport sanctioned back about 10 years ago. They will do all they can to help you.

chelle70


Joined: 14/09/2010
Posts: 28

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 19:31

would like to know do they have as much cruelty problems & abandoning animals in the south as they do in the north

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 19:33

Thanks for that info Whistler do you know anyone who has used them x

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 19:36

Lillie I know we dont always see eye to eye on all subjects but I do applaud you sincerity when it comes to animals and children must be our soft spots !!! :

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 19:43

Hi again sienna, love that name. Maybe we dont always agree but the respect for you is there.I really dont know how this animal thing came about with me. In UK I was so busy working. I helped with children and Elderly people charties when I could. Never animals. Suddendly here they gravitate to me. You should have seen the little fellow who turned up at the 44 do. He was a star.So you are right kids and animals must be my soft spot. I only wish I could do so much more. I have the will but not the money xxx

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 19:48

one day I might I shock you (don't come out that side much when out there) and come see you !! saw you once outside Guidos !! when I was visiting your side garden centre



take care !! and agree some Staffis are loverly my doggies best friend was a staffi he sounded like he smoked 40 a day !! Boycee !! Millie was the only girlie he loved !! sadly moved away !

rowan


Joined: 04/09/2008
Posts: 450

Message Posted:
30/01/2011 05:43

when we moved here, my husband had a "no pet" rule which lasted for about a year and a half. We now have three dogs who found us, we did not want them at first but they were starving so what can you do? Anyway, suffice to say they are our much loved family now and wherever we go they go and we could not have it any other way, nor would want to. The thought of turning these dogs back onto the streets just makes my heart bleed. I would sell anything we have rather than do that, and I also believe that no matter where you are, a dog is for life. Cyprus should not be different to anywhere else.

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
30/01/2011 14:03

My sentiments entirely, well said rowan......

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
31/01/2011 09:28

wow not a nasty post in sight , thats refreshing on 44 ...just shows that there are lots of caring responsible people out there, we must also remember that a domesticated dog(fed) will never return to its survival instincts, they just starve to death.





When i took my dog back i was so skint it was horrible but within 6 months i had managed to find a flat(that allowed animals ), and get my dog.It wasnt easy but the thought of killing it or abandoning just wasnt even an option. Anyone wishing to investigate taking their pets back, just type in Defra or Quaff.



Yes i too wonder if these people are going back to the UK with no money?? i doubt it.If you are one of these, think about what you are really doing ?





spider yes you can make a home anywhere, i did

stellasstar1



Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 1519

Message Posted:
31/01/2011 12:37

Have you seen the new one? 3 days to find a dog like Lassie a new home. I'm speechless.

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
31/01/2011 14:05

yes disgusting....put to sleep i think they will find the word is actually Killing /murder !! im not sure of the background of this one, but it still makes me fuming mad :(

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
31/01/2011 14:57

Moxie I agree 100% with you, If people really cared about their animals they would take their animals with them whatever.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
31/01/2011 15:11

If people ask for help urgently, but you can't help out and TAKE a dog/cat - what's the use of all these repeated, repeated, repeated threads with advice/opinions throughout the years?

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
31/01/2011 15:40

because its an open forum ...for discussions ...and this is one !...and it is not a reply to anyone asking for help!

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
01/02/2011 08:59

On the thread about why so many people are returning to UK I sight an example of truly good animal ownership/ Despite the fact that my friends have been robbed blind by Boyut, their dog and two cats are returning with them to the U.K. They ensured that the money for this was found even though they return to the U.K. to a rented house and no money behind them now.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
01/02/2011 09:26

message 70 thats a good story



Dutch whats the point of some of your threads about spelling corrections it may just be typing errors but you go on and on and on about it some don't like your comments but it doesnt stop you if you dont like the mistakes dont look at them



You also go on about what you are not going to reply too who cares



So if someone has an opinion on an issue - it is a forum so they can



=>An Internet forum, or message board, is an online discussion site where people can hold conversations in the form of posted messages. =<



I wont expect a reply as you are not relying to negativity towards yourself now are you



If you wish to condon someone putting a dog to sleep because they cant be arsed to sort it out wel in advance or pay for the quaratine stop making others feeling guilty, their dog their problem but emotional blackmail on a forum is unacceptable

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
01/02/2011 11:42

A mum and six suckling pups were dumped in the garden of an empty houses next door to me.

- One pup disappeared the first night - don't know what happened to that one.

- Two we managed to re-home with Turkish Cypriots

The Mum and 3 pups went to KAR

WHAT WAS I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THEM ??????????? - LET THEM STARVE??????? I weaned the pups and cared for them for a week. I did take them to a pub to see if anyone would take them - no takers!!

I have already taken in a street dog and have my own which I brought from England with me as he is 12 years old.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
01/02/2011 12:58

I dont think this type of help is being questioned it is owners that have had their dogs for 8 years condeming them to death - see other threads concerning this

joandjelly


Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 2953

Message Posted:
01/02/2011 14:05

I would be interested to know who the vets are that are apparently killing these healthy animals.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
01/02/2011 15:09

good point !

mahdel


Joined: 28/05/2009
Posts: 255

Message Posted:
01/02/2011 21:02

I dont think you can blame the vet. What are they supposed to do? If they are responsible for rehoming every unwanted dog in the country they'd be inundated and bankrupt. Perhaps they think it is better for the dog to die quickly and quietly rather than starve to death on the street.

Maz


Joined: 29/03/2009
Posts: 1924

Message Posted:
01/02/2011 23:29

Isn't it encouraging to read of the huge number of Cyprus44 posters who are caring, responsible ;people. I feel so very sorry for those who do not have the money to take their animals to another country. It must be tough. However, much as I sympathise, I, like others, could not leave my animals - all of them rescued , or as I call them 'My Orphans' - in fact it will be the one thing that oculd stop me leaving here, as I could not even put my dog in quarantine, as it would kill her - no more than I could put my children into 3 to 6 months of living in a kennel. She would feel abandoned again



But I have not had my back to the wall yet. I am sure for many people they would love to take their pets with them, especially if it is a health reason that means they are leaving. A friend of mine went back to U.K last year and it cost them £5000 to get their pets taken and quarantined. They couldn't really afford it, but felt it was a priority.

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
25/04/2011 12:42

hahha Sienna ive just read your post RE. msg 68 ...................clog off!! lol

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
25/04/2011 14:12

Oh this thread is back again lol We all know what the forum is like.....Dogs, cats, Villa rentals sales, insults and all sorts...Guess we do not need to 1,Look. 2,Comment......We have a choice to log in or post..or sit back and view..Some members also just love to put their tuppence worth everywhere too



IMHO..





Spider,X

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
25/04/2011 14:35

Cyprus life eh ?

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
25/04/2011 14:40

Changed your tune from what you said in the "baby - Dave" thread spider!!!!! in which I had the temerity, being the first to respond to that thread - to voice EXACTLY what this thread is all about..........



I TOTALLY understood the lady whose husband is a victim of Alzeihmer's, needing to find a home for their pet - and truly believe it is breaking their hearts; a condition such as her husband is now suffering from is overwhelming for anyone to cope with, not least away from one's homeland - but 99% of other threads NEVER give a reason why they have to leave the Island in five minutes, or if they do, the reasons are vacuous and lame - why does a broken marriage mean a dog has to be left behind? if you can afford to fly off the Island, you can damn well afford to pay for your pet to go with you. That said, if the animal is bottom of the list of priorities, then ask a Vet to euthanase it - there are MORE than enough animals in TRNC now........

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
25/04/2011 23:57

People deal with things either the best way the can or the best way for all involved Mr Blooming G...whatever the situation..thats why people are so very different from each other..Thought you understood this..Are you stalking me most of the time of late...I posted on the David thread..yes..I also posted on the tread that stated her husband is unwell..I posted here toooooo..For a laugh But you just had too..Tsssk,Tssk, Tut tut,



For some reason you believe that nurseawful is a nurse..but you believe nothing of what I am either..But for sure I feel you have been a victim and that you play act and copy your therapists every word..Shame on you for being so very untrustworthy...JMHO..



Spider,X

Tootie


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 00:23

Msg 82....

"For some reason you believe that nurseawful is a nurse..but you believe nothing of what I am either.."



Spider please do tell the forum exactly what you are?



Chris/nurseawful IS a fully qualified & registered NHS Nurse!!!

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 04:23

"For some reason you believe that nurseawful is a nurse" How utterly bizarre????????? You cannot find a posting anywhere on this forum where I have either engaged in conversation with nurseawful, OR where I have made comment on anything she has said one way or the other BUT since, for reasons known only to yourself, you make that remark, I would say anything I have read from or about her, would lead me to believe 100% she is a Nurse, and a very kind and caring one at that.



"but you believe nothing of what I am either". Again, where have I verbalised that? Though, since you brought it up, as Tootie says, please do tell the forum exactly what you are. A link to an American Institute explaining what CBT is, and a website bringing up the renowned post-grad Tavistock Institute on your profile doesn't explain anything about what your qualifications might be, as you don't say the relevance to putting either link there.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 06:21

Please keep this thread on topic.

AJ

airy____fairy


Joined: 14/06/2008
Posts: 813

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 07:25

Dare I say it but sometimes peole do have a genuine reason for needing to rehome animals ......... please do not just assume that because a new home is required for an animal that the person is a bad person..... there are sometimes circumstances that force these decisions .......jmho as a person in the process of rehoming my 2 dogs ......fingers crossed I have found a new home for my dogs .........but please do not condemn me because I needed to rehome them

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 08:13

Very well said airy......fairy.. everyone's life changes and sometimes even a doge life too..and as they might say children adapt so do dogs. I do hope you have found a new home for your dogs and are able to say all worked out well for everyone in the end.







Spider X



Mrs G..You read my postings, you do not live here 'so you say' so you will never get to know me or what I am...

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 09:52

lets just hope that the poor dogs will be happy ??? a dog is for life not just Christmas!!!!! or untill you dont want them ...



im more concerned about people leaving the island. Rehoming a dog whilst you will still care for them until a new home is found is a bit different,still sad, but the blackmailing ones IE 10 days to go and then its the vet makes me want to scream....actually makes me feel sick !!!:(

lovinit


Joined: 20/06/2008
Posts: 745

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 10:33

mess 1



Here, here I too am sick of reading about animals wanting new homes.

lovinit


Joined: 20/06/2008
Posts: 745

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 10:37

Bugger the happyness of the dog, what about the poor family, with a sick Husband........



priorities need to be looked at here.............put the dog to sleep get back to the UK and sort a better quality of life for this poor chap..



If people posting here cannot offer constructive help to the family ie take the dog, then butt out.

lionel


Joined: 21/04/2011
Posts: 179

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 10:50

i think you will find the post is not about any one family in particular...i think you are on the wrong thread ...???

smwredd


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 260

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 10:53

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. I am sure none of us who come to live on this Island can see into the future. We make plans, we adopt animals and God knows there are enough of them on this Island to adopt. Then some disaster will strike, usually not of our making. Poor health becomes an issue and if we want treatment that is not available in Cyprus, we have, often reluctantly, to make the decision to return to the UK. These are not circumstances that are necessarily confined to here. Often someone in the UK who has pets, will find they are no longer able to look after them. There are organisations that can help with these issues there but not here. We rely on the compassion of those around us to hopefully assist and not condemn those people whose circumstances change and try to do their best for themselves and their pets.

lionel


Joined: 21/04/2011
Posts: 179

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 11:20

well said smwredd, but i cant help thinking that a dog, be it just an animal in some peoples eyes, deserves consideration too. im sure friends and family could help get the animal back with the owners, surely these people have some funds available ? A dog is dependant on its owners and loyal ,sometimes for many years ..dogs do pine ...and can die from such actions....animals deserve consideration too.Sad for the owners, but equally sad for the animal, they do have feelings too!

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 12:12

smwredd - of course some people's ill health or that of a family member, or some unforseen calamity, requires them to leave the Island quickly, to resolve the situation elsewhere. That said, that can't possibly obtain for the majority of postings - often posted by a 'friend' - where people say they have to rehome a pet within a week WITHOUT giving a reason why they REFUSE to take the pet with them. If it was a time/finance factor, there are plenty of people who would foster a pet for a week or so, until the pet paperwork and flight was sorted out from there, or elsewhere, and the finance, if not available in TRNC, arranged from UK and sent via Western Union (say). To most of us, a pet IS family.



spider "you do not live here 'so you say'..." oh dear :o( "so you will never get to know me or what I am". Obviously, predictably, as always, you STILL don't tell Tootie, myself or the forum your qualifications; the query only prompted by YOUR postings, yet when asked, give NO response

horselover


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 129

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 12:27

Stevo I'm in London n it ain't animal loving. Pit bulls bein trained ova kids park. Bein kicked n punched. I've shouted at them . Authorities dnt care. N not allowed in acvomodation here is codswalop. People have animals even if it is illegal. Since wen did humans abide by rules? Why aren't the people that leave their animals defending themselves on this thread? Coz they know what they did is wrong

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 12:35

very true horselover !!!

begonia


Joined: 19/05/2009
Posts: 229

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 18:48

Perhaps a ban should be put on to people entering Cyprus with dogs/cats.That way they might think twice before coming or leave pets with responsible relatives in the UK. It just isn't on to come and then want to go home leaving pets to their fate. There are plenty of pets here to adopt already.

phoebe_cat


Joined: 06/01/2009
Posts: 146

Message Posted:
27/04/2011 02:57

I have lived here for 2 years... This island has totally bled me dry.... I took in a stray cat 10 months ago that I love with all of my heart, but I am now looking to re home her as I have to go back to the UK for financial reasons....

To all of you that say I should beg, steal and borrow to get her back to the UK...



Wanna offer financial assistance? You are all so holier than thou.... Come one then... Finance me to take my baby back to the UK!



I can't do it! I'm borrowing money for my own air fare...



I took this cat off the street in the good faith that I'd be able to stay in this country.... WHAT? I should have left her wandering the streets?



Bring it on and shoot me down...... Or... Alternatively..... Be the animal lovers that you all stress to be, and offer a home to a beautiful, stray Cyprus kitty!

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
27/04/2011 08:20

my ten penny worth, for whats it worth...............



most of us moved here looking for the dream - and what with cheap property, very high intrest rates and a promise the gov't would look after our best interests, we took the plunge....



but the realities of life in te trnc were far from the dream.



as it was a"new" country, nothing could have prepared us for the lies, deceit and corruption that awaited us - chuck nto the melting pot, the rocketing cost of living, the blatent rip offs and the plumeting interest rates that many of us panned our life in the trnc around (foolish of not, that's what many did).....



So the dream has gone tits up for many and trying t sell their property in a v deprssed market is another nail ithe coffin............



so, you are demorilised, skint and facing an uncertain future - you could be forgiven for wanting to re-home your pets because of he expense of taking them with you.............



i'm not saying i agree, but i can understand......

lovinit


Joined: 20/06/2008
Posts: 745

Message Posted:
27/04/2011 08:27

here, here,



Nick, best thing I read on this thread.



Puts it all into prospective in very few words.



"nothing could have prepared us for the lies, deceit and corruption that awaited us"



Best of all, developers are saying " thank God for the Russians they are buying" lets see what happens when they start to fleece them, could be really interesting.........

lionel


Joined: 21/04/2011
Posts: 179

Message Posted:
27/04/2011 10:46

Nick ,well said i fully understand where you are coming from.Phoebe cat i will happily give money to help you get your cat back to the uk.....if we all did, im sure it may happen, if you are serious then you must also get the ball rolling ?

berilela


Joined: 17/07/2010
Posts: 590

Message Posted:
27/04/2011 15:05

well said nick

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
27/04/2011 15:40

interesting comments......it seems that many have a similar attitude regarding this subject...good debate !

Roley


Joined: 14/02/2011
Posts: 63

Message Posted:
27/04/2011 20:47

Post deleted for being off topic

AJ

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
27/04/2011 21:07

Post deleted for being off topic

AJ

Roley


Joined: 14/02/2011
Posts: 63

Message Posted:
27/04/2011 21:10

msg:105.Thats more like you.Excellent.

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
28/04/2011 11:57

oh what a shame .....would have like to seen the comments!!!