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tracer


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Turkey reported a current account deficit equivalent to 7529 Million USD in December of 2010. Turkey major exports are: textiles and clothing, automotive, iron and steel, white goods and chemicals, pharmaceuticals and ships. Turkey imports mainly machinery, chemicals, semi-finished goods, fuels and transport equipment. Its main trading partners are: European Union (57% exports, 40% imports), Russia and The United States. This page includes: Turkey Current Account chart, historical data and news.



Bad news sorry

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tracer, on face value this does in fact sound bad. But when you compare 7529 Million, to the USA deficit of 497.8 Billion and the UK balance of 4.8 Billion. It then looks like the Turkish economy is in pretty good shape.



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my concern is for you geof



the Inflation rate is down to around 5% right now, but the "bad news" is for the visitors in the north who were planning to live off their interests on Turkish currency accounts forever, so they thought when the rate was around 15%-20%, is now less than 7%, which means that they will be living off their savings from now on, and once that runs out or they can't provide evidence to the "trnc" that they have enough savings to live in the north, so will end their fun in the sun.!



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Guess it will be back to the UK . With all the benefits foreigners get .



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msg 4



i will not surprised if this is a GAME OVER



tracer


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also that's like comparing apples and..........errrr, elephants. The USA can buy and sell Turkey many times over, despite the US having a bad times economically at the moment, hence the reason why the US dollar is down. While the USA's GDP is about 25 times larger than Turkey's, it's population is only 4 times larger than Turkey's. Besides, the 7.5 Billion US Dollars is just for December 2010 and not for the whole year. The full year's deficit current account for Turkey is about 48.5 Billion US Dollars. Do the math.!



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that another one .

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Cor tracer your fall off the joys of spring



tracer


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mad don't be so mad soft /melt a bit and run south to save your self ...................or run north across the sea you will reach some land not very far.

Because this land is for CYPRIOTS



Ps: here we recognize only madcypriots ,madturks do not bother us.



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msg 8 also if you had the slightest idea what is the meaning of my post here you should need methicks by now



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We're doomed I tell you, doomed. Silly boy.



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troodo.................this is a bad habit go away from the mirror and stop talking to your self.



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but greece is already broke tracer and will default later this year. so all in all turkish economy not doing to badly an u can still get over 8% on monthly tl accounts and with rents only half of the greek side........



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A showdown is inevitable,” said one senior diplomat, speaking to a group of journalists in İstanbul this week. “We are now looking to see how this showdown will take place and what results will come out of it.”





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as it happens tracer i am cypriot , i think if you look at interest on savings englands are crap compared to turkish cyprus rates 2.5% uk turkey 9% .

i will stay put thanks , maybe you should be the one that should be worried . time to wake up my son we have the best part of the island . we will still have it 100 years from now .

time to get head out of arse and see the real world .



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madturk, I love the interest rates in UK, we have 0.5% base rate for borrowing money. It's about time people with money found another way of making a living then sucking dry the poor people who need to borrow to own a home. My suggestion is buy property and rent it.

Leave the interst rates alone. Long may it continue, although I suspect that having the Cons in power in the UK, it will not last very long.



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MSG 15



Then talk like a Cypriot mad and be mad with those that deserved it the best part is A STOLEN part no Cypriot will chose to live in a stolen land an less he is force to do so. so act like one and forget the 100 years check that out.



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11/2/2011



9/2/2011



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Tahrir Square? Don’t overlook İnönü Square in Nicosia



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ur a great comedy act tracer



tracer


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black comedy !!!!!

and what is your act up there in Newport????

Im asking dear because for the last 50 years the only thing we have in Cyprus is tragedy so don't start something when you dont have a f........ clue what is about .



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I am only mad with the Greeks . They tried to bully the tc out of Cyprus

So our big brother in turkey came across the water and gave you lot a good spanking , which you deserved .

Now your making out your hard done by .so no I have no problem with good honest people living in Greek houses or land .

Maybe you should take your problems to the Greek government as they were put of the plan to rid Cyprus of ct



tracer


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mad first i am not Greek and have nothing to do with them i am a Cypriot and i am proud of it . and my hope is that you can say the same thing .

now is your turn for a spank from your big brother

yes we deserved it just to wake up so now what do you need to wake up yours self





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madturk


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We stopped being Cypriots the day my. Aunt had her

Husband and 4 sons killed by Greek Cypriots in the taskent massacre

The heartache is still there. You may think we can live side by side .

Wake mate and smell the coffee . It's turkish



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madturk, we all lost some relatives or friends or even both. We must learn to look forward and live together in peace. You will find that a lot of people on both sides who lost very close relatives wish to know what happened, find their relatives remains, give them a decent burial and have closure. Then we can move forward and live like we did before this enosis/taksim cancer gripped the island. That does not mean back to 1960 set up but there must be a way of living with our neighbours. Subject to of course silencing the fascists on both sides.



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tracer

Whether you like it or not you are either Greek or Greek Cypriot.

Remind me please on the fiscal status of the ROC seeing as you are in financial mode at the moment.

Please tell us all about the lies told by the ROC government about their fiscal status on entry to the EU.

My guess is that they had a bit of advice from the 'motherland' Greece on how to cook the books because that is certainly what Greece did.



tracer


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I feel soooo ashamed!

that was a very bad event done by dickheads mad you dont have to blame the whole of us for that .

i feel very sorry for your loss i have lost people too. is good to remember but is bad to go around in circles .

our course must be straight forward for a united cyprus and dont tell me that you abolish your citizenship you are and you always be a CYPRIOT no matter what .



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tracer

'our course must be straight forward for a united cyprus and dont tell me that you abolish your citizenship you are and you always be a CYPRIOT no matter what .'



What is your mother tongue?



tracer


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come on AJ what we are going to play the game cypriot greek greek cypriot



if you ask an American what will be his response .............does this make him british



So I am a Greek speaking CYPRIOT that makes me Greek ?



or if you learn turkish makes you a turk

also ask Yfred about louroutzina what was their mother tongue in the 60s ?



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AJ would you like to know?



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tracer

There are at least two separate distinct races on the Island. The Turkish and the Greeks who depending on when their families arrived on the Island regard themselves as Greek Cypriots (with the emphasis on Greek) and the Turkish Cypriots (Although a lot of them now call themselves Cypriot Turks). Let me put something to you. I believe that the two tolerated each other (obviously until the problems arose) and this is evident in a lot of history books (not that you would have access to any Government educational literature about the island history prior to 1974) and it was evident that there were two distinct cultures, Virtually no inter marriages (frowned upon by both sides) separate coffee shops, obviously different religions etc. So was that an integrated society? My guess is that at leasy you are are a 2nd generation 'removed refugee' that has never suffered what previous generations have suffered and have probably never lived on the land that your ancestors claim as theirs.



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We were talking about 2011, not 1973. Move on.



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AJ, what you said is not quite right. My grandmothers could not speak Turkish at all and yet she was Turkish. I have lots of real Greek Cypriot cousins in the south some extreme fascists too. The suggestion that the two cultures did not mix is not true. People lived like true cypriots baking bread in a common oven and such.

The Turkification of the TCs and the Greekefication of the GC did not start until 1963. For instance the the Turkish Major Appointed by Turkey to Lurucina banned speaking of Greek in the village. The Lurucadis obviously did not speak Greek in front of him but many could not speak Turkish so they avoided him. We still speak Greek to this day. It is so beautiful sitting in a kahve and listening to them talk fluently in both languages.

Just to confuse the issue even more, I have a Turkish cousin in the north who does not speak a word in Turkish to this day.

Yes there are Cypriot and Ottoman and Greek and Italian and Arab and Armenian blood in every one of



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Tracer you have just answered your own questions

About integrating both races it will not happend

Sorry mate nice thought.

" you may say I'm a dreamer I'm not the only one "



tracer


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I m not a refugee AJ but I m 50 and the place you are living now i know the stones by their name i was raised partly in kazaphani and diorios with tcs so i was here in the 60s even as a child were was you?



and you make your self an expert about cyprus .



"Virtually no inter marriages"

check your sources AJ mine tells me something else.



"claim as theirs".

for some one who know cyprus very well this is a penalty and a red card



tracer


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Thank you so much Yfred

my father had very good friends from Lurucina.



tracer


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msg 31

'We were talking about 2011, not 1973. Move on'.



how many times i have to say the same thing girne

but some want to go in circles again and again.



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strange i always thought ' moderators ' were supposed to be informed and impartial



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Luricina,my grandad's birth place (was known as GASHAI),diorios,my grandmother's birth place.They lived in diorios UNTIL 1963 then were made refugees.I was born and raised in an aspestos home in Nicosia.



You see tracer some of us weren't lucky enough to grow up in their birth place due to 'others' greedeness.

I too remember my great aunty coming to visit us from Luricina and we had to wait for my dad to come home before we could communucate.

gadalaves?



If you happen to be over this way let me know,I'll take you over to diorios.I know you could go yourself,it's just a friendly gesture.



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my ancestors on my mothers side are french so we have been here since about 1130 AD.........



tracer


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Thanks salahi in first chance we will go



do you know how many tcs stay or return in both villages after 64?



panta katalavo sallahi



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I don't know much regarding Luricina but in diorios,yorgoz,tepebasi only handful few had returned until 74.We were given an obtion to return to one of the greek owned houses as opposed to our house being demolished but my dad refused on the bases of 'it's not my house',so we carried on residing in Nicosia in a rented property.Nor he axcepted the 48 donums of land/olive orchards he was 'given'.



tracer


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A man with Pride .



As i remember in Kazaphani there was apx 6-10 families until 74 as for diorios i cannot recall ,because my grand mother left from there in 1966 -67 . just only glimpses here and there. My best memories are from vavilas

( guzelyali) from 65-74 leaving in the fenced area in that little white house a property of a Tc Shepperd, he was old enough then but he was my second grandfather excellent persons he and his wife ,fresh hallumi and milk for me everyday ( Hamid is his son and Ibrahim his son in law ) i bet you know hamid



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Refuges from Dali, Bodmaya and Aysozomeno came to Lururucina in 63. Aprox 2000 people. Only 1 man went back to Dali in all the rest did not return to their homes till 74. After the invasion they all moved to the north.



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Yfred

According to Martins Packard book (getting it wrong ) Tmt and the turkish major force them to stay.

and not only for lurucina.



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