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Scoty
Joined: 23/05/2010 Posts: 846
Message Posted: 15/02/2011 18:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 31 in Discussion |
| Another example of the reasons we left. |
Tootie
Joined: 28/08/2008 Posts: 2037
Message Posted: 15/02/2011 18:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 31 in Discussion |
| Hmm? I wonder why I feel this story is a load of ..... |
Blackbird
Joined: 11/08/2009 Posts: 1432
Message Posted: 15/02/2011 18:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 31 in Discussion |
| Absolutely ridiculous............and Stupid............. |
spider
Joined: 03/01/2009 Posts: 5527
Message Posted: 15/02/2011 18:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 31 in Discussion |
| WHAT another Daily Mail thread Try posting a pointless thread, It may get closed like mine did the other day................. Spider,X |
keyholekate
Joined: 08/05/2009 Posts: 81
Message Posted: 15/02/2011 19:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 31 in Discussion |
| Charles Dickens realized this and things haven't improved since his day! |
CJtill
Joined: 02/05/2008 Posts: 836
Message Posted: 15/02/2011 19:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 31 in Discussion |
| Its all about actions and consequencies. The alledged thief had his human rights infringed, and was justly awarded compensation for the treatment inflicted upon him. The idiot who decided to take such drastic action, never thought it through, and next time will think twice before taking the law into his own hands. Judgement upheld. Michael |
YFred
Joined: 06/05/2009 Posts: 1471
Message Posted: 15/02/2011 19:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 31 in Discussion |
| He got off lightly, in US he may have been forced to pay a lot more. It was a stupid thing to do. |
Hoylemiller
Joined: 03/09/2010 Posts: 240
Message Posted: 15/02/2011 20:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 31 in Discussion |
| Should've just fired the thieving beggar. |
yenibob
Joined: 13/10/2010 Posts: 1203
Message Posted: 15/02/2011 20:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 31 in Discussion |
| Yep, dopey employer. |
TinLondon
Joined: 20/07/2009 Posts: 171
Message Posted: 15/02/2011 20:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 31 in Discussion |
| It sounds like another ridiculous Human Rights Court type ruling! |
spider
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Message Posted: 15/02/2011 20:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 31 in Discussion |
| OFF With his you know whats Spider,X |
Scoty
Joined: 23/05/2010 Posts: 846
Message Posted: 15/02/2011 20:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 31 in Discussion |
| Society gone mad! Too many do gooders around. If they want to act for 'persectuted' people losing 'human rights' get to the countries that really need them. Looks like Iran could do with a few now! Ooops, forgot, cant get a cash settlement there. |
elko2
Joined: 24/07/2007 Posts: 4400
Message Posted: 15/02/2011 21:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 31 in Discussion |
| False imprisonment is a serious matter. However, what worries me is that the civil litigation can cost so much in UK. I think the legal costs is not made up of only the costs of the lawyers of the two sides but the cost of the court i.e. the judges etc. So it was a settlement out of court because of fear of mounting legal costs. I have not forgotten the legal costs of the Orams. One way or the other, the courts do not always dish out justice. ismet |
IbrahimAbi
Joined: 24/10/2010 Posts: 245
Message Posted: 15/02/2011 21:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 31 in Discussion |
| The boss was upset, quite rightly but what a plonker |
Tangerineman
Joined: 08/03/2010 Posts: 318
Message Posted: 15/02/2011 22:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 31 in Discussion |
| What a load of tosh The judge never got the opportunity to rule as the employer bottled it and settled Daily Mail and its readers misquoting what happened to have a pop at the legal system and how they dont let people who take the law into their own hands off scott free - now there's a surprise |
YFred
Joined: 06/05/2009 Posts: 1471
Message Posted: 15/02/2011 22:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 31 in Discussion |
| Perhaps if he dragged him to the village square and administers 100 lashes, some people on here would be pleased. Spider you need some help if I may be so bold to comment, ops can't do that still have the old fluf stuff up top. |
spider
Joined: 03/01/2009 Posts: 5527
Message Posted: 15/02/2011 22:56 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 31 in Discussion |
| YFred...like Spider,X |
Zoots
Joined: 05/02/2011 Posts: 669
Message Posted: 15/02/2011 23:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 31 in Discussion |
| Great thread to distinguish thinking civilised people with the mindless cretins of the lynch mob. If this kind of incident is forcing some of them to leave the UK then GREAT. The country's gene pool is getting better by the day! |
Blackpoolfan
Joined: 03/12/2008 Posts: 1568
Message Posted: 15/02/2011 23:56 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 31 in Discussion |
| Human rights, PC, The good old British legal system, the boss has cocked up and obviously cannot afford £25,000 for legal costs to fight the case. Soon people wont be able to afford solicitors they will no doubt resort to inflicting their own brand of justice. |
deputydawg
Joined: 30/03/2010 Posts: 1727
Message Posted: 16/02/2011 00:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 31 in Discussion |
| More appropriate that the employee should be fined £13,000 and the employer cautioned. In legal parlance the outcome is "arse about face" ! Probably the CPS helping to fudge the crime stats again. |
Tangerineman
Joined: 08/03/2010 Posts: 318
Message Posted: 16/02/2011 00:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 31 in Discussion |
| Didn't have you down as a Daily Mail reader Steve He settled cos he bottled it He wouldn't have saved much by settling the day b4 and it will have been a Fast Track trial so trial costs will have been fixed Story is typical clap trap from that rag |
rowlo
Joined: 12/10/2008 Posts: 4796
Message Posted: 16/02/2011 01:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 31 in Discussion |
| i gotta laugh , all you do gooders that screamed for humane rights , give prisoners tvs , pool tables ,computers , phones , weekend passes with the family because its not fair on them ,all paid for by the good old tax payer , thats you and i by the way ,the guy played the system and won , you made the rules , if i had my way a thief would have his hands cut off , murderers , rapists , child abusers , would be hung , but we cant have that can we , theyve got rights , no point in moaning about the system you created . |
Tangerineman
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Message Posted: 16/02/2011 01:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 31 in Discussion |
| Hmmmm - The voice of reason |
rowlo
Joined: 12/10/2008 Posts: 4796
Message Posted: 16/02/2011 01:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 31 in Discussion |
| like it or lump it mate , its the world you created . |
Tangerineman
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Message Posted: 16/02/2011 01:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 31 in Discussion |
| Think there is a middle road personally Agree about the PC point but your comments are too far the other way If the employer had stood his ground I reckon the thief would have lost He can't blame the law if he didn't trust it to make the right decision Daily Mail is always coming out with this rubbish |
Blackpoolfan
Joined: 03/12/2008 Posts: 1568
Message Posted: 16/02/2011 22:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 31 in Discussion |
| Tange, " If the employer stood his ground the thief would of lost" would you of gambled £25,000 on getting a positive result???? Political correctness has destroyed our justice system, it is a joke i have no confidence in it. You should stop reading the Guardian all that upper class "Crap" Get the Mail its a working mans paper |
deputydawg
Joined: 30/03/2010 Posts: 1727
Message Posted: 17/02/2011 00:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 31 in Discussion |
| Perhaps the employer was aware that there seems to be many judges in civil actions, particularly where there is media interest, who will not make a judgment in case their finding goes to appeal. Parties are told to go outside, compromise, and come back with a consent order drawn up ! |
YFred
Joined: 06/05/2009 Posts: 1471
Message Posted: 17/02/2011 01:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 31 in Discussion |
| This reminds of how the Nazis used to make the Jews wear the star so everybody knew who they were. The Boss has his rights but he is not a judge and jury. If he went to court he would have had to cough up a lot more and deservedly so. This sort of behavior went out with the Victorians |
EamonnMc
Joined: 18/06/2010 Posts: 1019
Message Posted: 17/02/2011 01:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 31 in Discussion |
| A person may be guilty but you should not humiliate them ! |
cronos
Joined: 26/10/2008 Posts: 2093
Message Posted: 17/02/2011 01:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 31 in Discussion |
| Blackpoolfan...msg 27..."Get the Mail its a working mans paper" Yes, it famously showed support for Hitler's policies and also the British Fascist Party led by Oswald Moseley. Given it's attitude to immigrants these days, not much has changed has it ? |
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