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Enrico


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15/02/2011 18:05

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See the link.

I think that it stinks.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1357217/Boss-forced-pay-worker-THIEF-13k-humiliating-him.html



Scoty


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15/02/2011 18:09

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Another example of the reasons we left.



Tootie


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Hmm? I wonder why I feel this story is a load of .....



Blackbird



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15/02/2011 18:19

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Absolutely ridiculous............and Stupid.............



spider


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WHAT another Daily Mail thread Try posting a pointless thread, It may get closed like mine did the other day.................







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keyholekate


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15/02/2011 19:11

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Charles Dickens realized this and things haven't improved since his day!



CJtill


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15/02/2011 19:17

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Its all about actions and consequencies.

The alledged thief had his human rights infringed, and was justly awarded compensation for the treatment inflicted upon him.

The idiot who decided to take such drastic action, never thought it through, and next time will think twice before taking the law into his own hands.

Judgement upheld.

Michael



YFred


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15/02/2011 19:59

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He got off lightly, in US he may have been forced to pay a lot more. It was a stupid thing to do.



Hoylemiller



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Should've just fired the thieving beggar.



yenibob


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Yep, dopey employer.



TinLondon


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15/02/2011 20:43

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It sounds like another ridiculous Human Rights Court type ruling!



spider


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OFF With his you know whats







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Scoty


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Society gone mad! Too many do gooders around. If they want to act for 'persectuted' people losing 'human rights' get to the countries that really need them. Looks like Iran could do with a few now!

Ooops, forgot, cant get a cash settlement there.



elko2



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False imprisonment is a serious matter. However, what worries me is that the civil litigation can cost so much in UK. I think the legal costs is not made up of only the costs of the lawyers of the two sides but the cost of the court i.e. the judges etc. So it was a settlement out of court because of fear of mounting legal costs. I have not forgotten the legal costs of the Orams. One way or the other, the courts do not always dish out justice.

ismet



IbrahimAbi


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15/02/2011 21:21

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The boss was upset, quite rightly but what a plonker



Tangerineman


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15/02/2011 22:41

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What a load of tosh

The judge never got the opportunity to rule as the employer bottled it and settled

Daily Mail and its readers misquoting what happened to have a pop at the legal system and how they dont let people who take the law into their own hands off scott free - now there's a surprise



YFred


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15/02/2011 22:48

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Perhaps if he dragged him to the village square and administers 100 lashes, some people on here would be pleased.



Spider you need some help if I may be so bold to comment, ops can't do that still have the old fluf stuff up top.



spider


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YFred...like







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Zoots


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Great thread to distinguish thinking civilised people with the mindless cretins of the lynch mob. If this kind of incident is forcing some of them to leave the UK then GREAT. The country's gene pool is getting better by the day!



Blackpoolfan


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15/02/2011 23:56

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Human rights, PC, The good old British legal system, the boss has cocked up and obviously cannot afford 25,000 for legal costs to fight the case. Soon people wont be able to afford solicitors they will no doubt resort to inflicting their own brand of justice.



deputydawg


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16/02/2011 00:22

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More appropriate that the employee should be fined 13,000 and the employer cautioned. In legal parlance the outcome is "arse about face" ! Probably the CPS helping to fudge the crime stats again.



Tangerineman


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Didn't have you down as a Daily Mail reader Steve

He settled cos he bottled it

He wouldn't have saved much by settling the day b4 and it will have been a Fast Track trial so trial costs will have been fixed

Story is typical clap trap from that rag



rowlo



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16/02/2011 01:12

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i gotta laugh , all you do gooders that screamed for humane rights , give prisoners tvs , pool tables ,computers , phones , weekend passes with the family because its not fair on them ,all paid for by the good old tax payer , thats you and i by the way ,the guy played the system and won , you made the rules , if i had my way a thief would have his hands cut off , murderers , rapists , child abusers , would be hung , but we cant have that can we , theyve got rights , no point in moaning about the system you created .



Tangerineman


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Hmmmm - The voice of reason



rowlo



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like it or lump it mate , its the world you created .



Tangerineman


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Think there is a middle road personally

Agree about the PC point but your comments are too far the other way

If the employer had stood his ground I reckon the thief would have lost

He can't blame the law if he didn't trust it to make the right decision

Daily Mail is always coming out with this rubbish



Blackpoolfan


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16/02/2011 22:18

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Tange,

" If the employer stood his ground the thief would of lost" would you of gambled 25,000 on getting a positive result???? Political correctness has destroyed our justice system, it is a joke i have no confidence in it.

You should stop reading the Guardian all that upper class "Crap" Get the Mail its a working mans paper



deputydawg


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17/02/2011 00:02

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Perhaps the employer was aware that there seems to be many judges in civil actions, particularly where there is media interest, who will not make a judgment in case their finding goes to appeal. Parties are told to go outside, compromise, and come back with a consent order drawn up !



YFred


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17/02/2011 01:37

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This reminds of how the Nazis used to make the Jews wear the star so everybody knew who they were. The Boss has his rights but he is not a judge and jury. If he went to court he would have had to cough up a lot more and deservedly so.

This sort of behavior went out with the Victorians



EamonnMc


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A person may be guilty but you should not humiliate them !



cronos


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Blackpoolfan...msg 27..."Get the Mail its a working mans paper"



Yes, it famously showed support for Hitler's policies and also the British Fascist Party led by Oswald Moseley.



Given it's attitude to immigrants these days, not much has changed has it ?



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