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doggiesteve

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Message Posted: 25/02/2011 15:01 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 35 in Discussion |
| with the peaceful protests in Libya calling for the overthrow of Gadafi could it happen in the uk ? what would happen if tens of thousands of unarmed protesters calling for the end of the uk goverment stormed downing street and other key government sites setting fire to some ? |
YFred

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Message Posted: 25/02/2011 15:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 35 in Discussion |
| They already have, over 100,000 peacefull demonstartors came out in the street against the war in Iraq, and got totally ignored. |
Pugwash

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Message Posted: 25/02/2011 15:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 35 in Discussion |
| You obviously have no idea what these protests are about or why they are happening doggienige, i suggest you read up on it. In The UK the Government would just resign under these circumstances if they were to happen, you should think before posting such drivel. |
AlsancakJack


Joined: 14/08/2008 Posts: 5762
Message Posted: 25/02/2011 15:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 35 in Discussion |
| Nige You will have to stop reading the Mail. It is doing your thought processes no good at all. |
matula

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Message Posted: 25/02/2011 15:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 35 in Discussion |
| I would be more worried about it happening here in TRNC. |
Pugwash

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Message Posted: 25/02/2011 15:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 35 in Discussion |
| Well said matula |
Kibris

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Message Posted: 25/02/2011 15:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 35 in Discussion |
| If doggie steve is nigel, then why is he allowed to continue posting when it is clear the email address is trying to make out he is someone else? and does Steve Trenchfeild know this is happening? OR is it really Steve Trenchfieid? |
AlsancakJack


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Message Posted: 25/02/2011 15:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 35 in Discussion |
| Kibris Who is Steve Trenchfield? Do you know him? |
AlsancakJack


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Message Posted: 25/02/2011 16:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 35 in Discussion |
| OK so what is your middle name Nige? |
waddo

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Message Posted: 25/02/2011 16:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 35 in Discussion |
| Could you find enough people in UK interested enough to leave the TV and the football grounds to actually wander the streets protesting about something they know nothing about anyway? Most of the protesters against the government have already left the country anyway so what would be the point? |
Pugwash

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Message Posted: 25/02/2011 16:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 35 in Discussion |
| Indeed waddo, the petrol protests were a pathetic shade of what they do in France or elsewhere and they actually get change. |
YFred

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Message Posted: 25/02/2011 16:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 35 in Discussion |
| Waddo/Pugwash where were you when there were protests against going to war in Iraq? I can't make ouy people. Do we all suffer from loss of memmory after a certain age or is just a concentrationm thingy. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/2765041.stm have a look will ya. |
Pugwash

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Message Posted: 25/02/2011 16:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 35 in Discussion |
| And? what did that achieve? my point exactly, "when there were protests against going to war in Iraq? " |
GinaC

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Message Posted: 25/02/2011 18:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 35 in Discussion |
| There is no comparison between the terrible situation in Libya in relation to the UK. |
AlsancakJack


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Message Posted: 25/02/2011 18:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 35 in Discussion |
| waddo 'Could you find enough people in UK interested enough to leave the TV and the football grounds' So that has been the plan all along, create two new religions and both will keep the peasants from revolting. Now if you took away televised and live footy the country would collapse in hours. What a frightening thought. |
gates

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Message Posted: 25/02/2011 18:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 35 in Discussion |
| what a shame this did not come up when labour put uk in the potion it is now i think we would all have marched against ken livingstone and the people that have paid for his great mistakes go to londonfor a day in your car the trouble is the do gooders that have nought say put up petrol put up all then when it reflects back to them as prices have to be passed on they dont like it if petrol did not carry a polution tax what would be the defet now wake up talk sense |
Pugwash

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Message Posted: 25/02/2011 18:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 35 in Discussion |
| What was that all about? |
waddo

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Message Posted: 25/02/2011 18:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 35 in Discussion |
| Msg 13 - lets see now? In 2003 I was working for the Civil Service in support of the Military on a military base in the Midlands. I did not march as I was paid by the Government to support the government and assist all Military action in anycase. It would have been a little stupid of me to take the money with one hand and wave a "Boo Down with the Government flag" with the other hand - and that only if I did disagree with the military action being taken in the first place! When I was in the military myself I took the Queens Shilling as I had promised I would and did what was asked/ordered of me - that was my part of the bond between myself and the Queen - I did the same in the Civil Service. So, where was I - working for the country and proud of it. |
AlsancakJack


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Message Posted: 25/02/2011 18:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 35 in Discussion |
| gates 'now wake up talk sense' Erm yes I quite agree (I think) |
Pugwash

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Message Posted: 25/02/2011 19:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 35 in Discussion |
| Hard to say really |
mickeyfin

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Message Posted: 25/02/2011 20:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 35 in Discussion |
| more chanc to happen in TRNC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BECAREFUL |
Zoots

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Message Posted: 25/02/2011 20:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 35 in Discussion |
| Msg 12 wrote: "the petrol protests were a pathetic shade of what they do in France or elsewhere and they actually get change." Exactly. The French have a bit of attitude and fire in their belly and don't take kindly to being told what to do. You've got to admire them for calling their authorities to account and forcing action. They're not some third-rate former world power that now comprises much of the scum in Europe, and that's why the English hate them. |
Hippo

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Message Posted: 26/02/2011 04:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 35 in Discussion |
| 'When I was in the military myself I took the Queens Shilling as I had promised I would and did what was asked/ordered of me' I was only obeying orders-now who were they that used that excuse? |
Geoff

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Message Posted: 26/02/2011 09:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 35 in Discussion |
| Re Msg 22: Or Turkey! Wake up and smell the coffee. Geoff |
goldheart666

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Message Posted: 26/02/2011 16:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 35 in Discussion |
| It could happen in Turkey and then may be in TRNC. |
demoly

Joined: 12/01/2011 Posts: 45
Message Posted: 26/02/2011 16:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 35 in Discussion |
| England now consists of football style politics, you get a choice (ha) blue ,yellow or red. It doesnt make any differance anyway as we are now ruled by the European Union. So settle down and carry on watching the X factor and the football. You know it makes sense.. |
tarotlady

Joined: 15/02/2011 Posts: 27
Message Posted: 27/02/2011 01:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 35 in Discussion |
| having been intouch with steve trenfield,he is not on any of the forums so it could be a certain person from another forum out to cause trouble for him yet again ,who in the past made malicious statements about him which when checked out by his lawyer were all found to be un-true, and legal action is now pending.. |
Rosie64

Joined: 13/11/2010 Posts: 72
Message Posted: 27/02/2011 01:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 35 in Discussion |
| Msg 28 What's that got to do with the question ? |
waddo

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Message Posted: 27/02/2011 06:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 35 in Discussion |
| Hippo - "I was only obeying orders-now who were they that used that excuse? " I would think just about everyone in the military who has been castigated by the general public after any event they did not agree with. Kipling best described "Tommy" and what the public wanted from him - the crap the military has always had to, and always will face, has never changed once those they serve and protect are safe and warm, tucked up in bed. Never forget, as you sip your G&T in the comfort of your safe haven that 99% of the military serve because they want to, first and foremost. But unlike those in other occupations they must maintain honor and trust their comrades with their lives - that is a requirement that the non-military mind can not and will not understand. It is not a case of blindly following orders. But to try to explain further would be - as we ex/military types say - a waste of rations! |
Groucho


Joined: 26/04/2008 Posts: 7993
Message Posted: 27/02/2011 07:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 35 in Discussion |
| The original post misses the main point... we (the UK) can get a change of government at every election if the public can be bothered to get off their backsides and vote for change. That they largely can't be bothered says a lot about the man in the street. It also leads to some very bad members of parliament getting in, as those with strong political views form a disproportionate percentage of the electorate... Therein lies the conundrum! If they can't be bothered to vote they deserve what they get... and if they get what they deserve they hardly have an excuse for demonstrations leading to riotous assembly. So the answer, as I'm pretty sure the poser of the question already knew is, no! |
deputydawg

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Message Posted: 27/02/2011 10:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 35 in Discussion |
| Groucho. Agree all you say. Unfortunately the apathy you identify now appears to entend to the whole voting system. Many of the bad members of parliament are there from positive discrimination and the like by the parties and a Manifesto becomes meaningless once elected. Instances of vote rigging keep increasing but bring little penalty and any small outcry is hushed by "no comment as it is now a matter for the police". Rarely have the police come up with any results which lead to swinging penalty or adjustment to voting results. Could that be because the police have to answer via the CPS and new masters ? Democracy is fine but only when delivered without corruption. |
MickyFinn

Joined: 30/06/2009 Posts: 102
Message Posted: 27/02/2011 22:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 33 of 35 in Discussion |
| Dont know what`s going on here. Steve Trenchard`s wife is called Diana and she also does Tarot Cards. Has someone also taken her ID !!!!!!! Hence Tarotlady |
doggiesteve

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Message Posted: 28/02/2011 09:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 34 of 35 in Discussion |
| she is not 41 though ! |
Groucho


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Message Posted: 28/02/2011 10:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 35 of 35 in Discussion |
| If she was the wife of 'steve trenfield' whoever he is, you'd hope she'd have been in more than touch with him! |
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