Some peoples attitude to the north

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 02:04

Flew back into Larnaca (only reasonably priced flight) last week and picked up the wrong bag off the caroussel at the airport. I rang Monarch and they said no problem, just drop the bag off at the airport and pick up your own.



Went to the place where they deal with it and explained what had happened. The woman (Happened to be British, not a GC) was very rude and wanted an extortionate amount of money off me. I just stood there saying nothing getting more and more annoyed, giving her the evils.



She decided to go and talk to her friend in another office and said as loud as she could that I was from the 'occupied area' or words to that effect, she was being very derogatory towards the north anyway. That got me even more wound up.



The evil cow came back and said she would let me off with the charge.

Meerkat


Joined: 21/01/2011
Posts: 368

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 02:46

It is very upsetting when you are insulted like this because you happen to live on the North side of the Island. I too have been insulted for the very same reason living on the North. It did make me feel very uncomfortable & I did get upset after having gone over & spent money there. I didn't like my young son hearing that too. In the end I stopped going over as I thought why bother, I don't need that kind of stress. But I would cross over to use the airport after CTA went down.

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 07:01

what do you expect mess 1 ?



how would you like to be forced out of your home at gun point ??



40 yrs on and they are still bitter - now understand why the problem won't ever resolve itself.............





You bought in the North - cos the property was cheap - accept why it was cheap (dubious title and 3rd rate construction........)

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 07:02

Just tell them your house has wonderfull views over the mountains and the sea and on a clear day you can see Turkey. That really seems to upset them.



Oh yes and dont forget to ask them if thier family had land in your village.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 07:16

negative, the woman was British and therefore NOT forced out of her house at gunpoint.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 07:24

What winds them up at the airport is the simple fact that you are using 'their' facilities to then travel North and if they could stop you from doing so they would.

Dixie Normus


Joined: 22/02/2008
Posts: 820

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 07:36

I always mention how well their grandmother's fruit and olive trees are doing, and how do they manage to live with prices so high, gives that coiled spring another couple of notches on the ratchet.



D.N

Deniz1


Joined: 28/07/2009
Posts: 3829

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 08:10

Count the number of south siders in the casinos at the weekends.They seem to enjoy spending their euros over here.

kavenkoy


Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 1787

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 08:12

message3



do you work at larnaca airport ? your a great advert for tourism on either side



kav

Carndi


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 613

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 09:02

My wife's suitcase went missing when she arrived at Pathos.

The staff could not have been nicer nor more helpful. When the suitcase did arrive they rang to let us know and when I said that I would fetch it they said they would get it to Nicosia if I could pick it up there.

I met a gentleman at the Travellers Rest hotel and collected the case and whilst there he got the drinks in.

Laptamike. Think you met one of those job worths who are sad sad people.

Troodo


Joined: 12/06/2008
Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 10:10

msg 3.

how would you like to be forced out of your home at gun point ?? - Better than being forced down wells never to be seen again.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 10:23

Laptamike,



Maybe you should ask them how many innocent TC's the murdering GC thug relatives executed before they were thrown off 'their' land....

This ever-present self-awarded status of 'innocent refugee' by GC familial connection is surely wearing a bit thin by now... Most of these belligerents were not even born when their ancestors started the persecution of TCs that caused the problems.

Then we have these ex-pats gone native believing all the trite rubbish that singles out GCs as the injured party in the property arena. They are worst of all because if they (Brits gone GC barmy) had enquiring minds they would make sure they knew their facts before they spouted drivel the like of which you mention.



Someone was only telling me on Thursday that they couldn't understand how we could leave our properties unguarded whilst out as they would surely all be burgled and we should fear being murdered in our beds!

booitsme


Joined: 04/02/2009
Posts: 667

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 11:14

Just ask them who Larnaca belonged to in the first place, ask if they know any history before 1974, then ask politely if they've ever read The Genocide Files - works a treat for me!

scootex



Joined: 03/03/2009
Posts: 908

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 11:29

Groucho should not your remarks be directed at Negative nick the stirrer



Troodo well said

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 11:36

scootex,



I directed the first bit at Laptamike so that next time he could suitably embarrass them.. I wasn't having a go at him..



Negative Nick's a disgruntled ex-owner whose dream went sour and left him with a nasty taste in his mouth that he's determined to share with everyone. Which is nice...

Panchocat


Joined: 29/11/2009
Posts: 1333

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 11:38

Well said Groucho. He does continue his negativity from Thailand doesn't he?!

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 11:54

Negative Nick, how very patronising you have become especially as you too have bought here. How very

supportive you were of your friend the Chartered Surveyor who makes money out of the very same people who bought here. Out of interest, just what did he achieve for you. Only good things to say about him. Make up your mind, you cannot have it all ways.



The fact that the silly woman never knew if LaptaMike rented, or had pre 74 title didn't enter her mind, or indeed yours. If you intend to be a hypocrite, at least be a consistent one.



Suggest you read Pauline's article on the other misconceptions held by small minded people in the south.



Hope Thailand meets your expectations



She too has problems but she still defends her home of choice.

ozkent


Joined: 08/05/2010
Posts: 111

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 11:57

I hear that houses are cheap in thailand and that the Ladyboys are cheaper ,just like nics talk.

Cyprusquest


Joined: 09/12/2008
Posts: 428

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 12:12

Ouch to all the comments - North Cyprus (well it's people) is more tranquil than the ones down south by the sound of Mike. As you are lucky enough to be an EU citizen use that as leverage.

J

waddo


Joined: 29/11/2008
Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 12:48

Ignore Nick, he just likes to wind people up to see what the reaction will be - he has fled his last place of living anyway and only jumps from place to place around the world to find the cheapest Internet connections, so he can continue to tell us all how bad it is here!



There is good and bad both sides of the line but I always find the worst in the South side to be those who went to live there from other countrys after 74 - they are the ones who know the only truth so they say.

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 13:16

"Only jumps from place to place around the World"What is it they say,"Travel Broadens Your Out Look"....In my experience it certainly does.....If you never see a different way of doing things,you will always be convinced your way is the only way!!!!

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 13:47

hehe to the replies. To the ones suggesting to wind her up, I was biting my lip to not say anything because I didn't want to pay

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 13:52

slightly off topic, I did a little bit of shopping in Carrefour a while back. At the checkout I accidentally gave the girl a 50TL note instead of 50 Euros (look similar if you look quickly). She was fine about it, I said oops and she just giggled.

skoda


Joined: 21/06/2010
Posts: 37

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 15:23

MSG3 Negativenick. Why did you not finish the story by adding forced out of their homes at gunpoint just like the turkish cypriots from 1963 until 1974. Why did the turkish military wait so long. I was in Cyprus on 22 December 1963 and was fully aware of what was happening to the Turkish Cypriots and no one helped them so you reap what you sow poetic justice. If you feel that the Greek cypriots got such a raw deal why dont you make yourself at home and join them. By the way I am not a Cypriot I was in the British military.

fosterscan


Joined: 27/02/2010
Posts: 541

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 15:31

Mike it concerns me that you can walk out of the airport with someone elses case if it was mine that you had how pissed i would be. Next time tie a colourfull piece of meterial around the handel so you wont make the same mistake again.

wanderer


Joined: 05/02/2009
Posts: 1653

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 15:45

Mike the keyboard can be a great financial help write to Monarch and advise them how you were abused/humiliated .They might want to compensate you with an amount or an upgrade for your next flight

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 15:48

I have never felt at home in south cyprus:

it is very built-up, too hectic and much too fond of whingeing to the "international community"

...whatever that impressive-sounding catch-all may really amount to in practice



neither had any particular problem ever been experienced with cyprus turkish airlines,

despite the heap of bad reports on this forum

I'm looking forward to punt a flight on their successor, whenever it gets off the ground



granted, looking out from the ikea cafeteria there are mountains lining the far horizon

...could this be the lovely besparmik range? I think we should be told

Biggles


Joined: 14/06/2009
Posts: 165

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 16:43

Troodo, what a wonderful reply! and all the others who had to run north and leave their homes in the south, no one ever seems to mention them? It was not a one way exodus. One day the world will understand this, I think the EU is starting to pick up the threads. The intervention was badly needed to stop the bloodshed.

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 17:13

Despite all the problems Pauline has had, she would rather live here than in the south and she did live there for five years.



She wrote a little blog about an encounter with a Russian tour guide's misconceptions about the North.

See North Cyprus Free Press all very positive towards the North. Pauline, Agile Chris and of course me polymarples wouldn't live anywhere else. WE LOVE THE TRNC, WARTS AND ALL.

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 17:37

returning to the original comment in message 1 about treatment at larnaca,

both times arriving our trnc taxi driver was abused



I won't go into detail but though it was only verbal it was still quite intimidating



if anyone still believes this is a population with whom the turkish cypriots

can do business with as regards any compromise settlement, should one surface

they are either naiive or badly misguided, in my humble opinion



and still nicosia engages in the peace process as well as posturing and threats,

which has achieved next to nothing for them in thirty months



...a good comparison is doctor doolittle's curious push-me-pull-you creature,

that defying nature, faces in opposite directions at the same time

YFred


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 18:26

The trick is to unify the car numbering system so the fsacists cannot tell who is who. Having two system is an open invitation for abuse. I am sure the GCs suffer the same fate when they come across one of our lovely and tolerant grey wolf chapies and all that.

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 18:42

In January at Larnaca as my hand luggage went through xray I was screamed at by a woman, "go back" I asked why she said "you have a laptop in your hand luggage" , I said I had because I was told by Monarch to carry it through in my hand luggage as I was only allowed one piece, then she screamed the same at my Husband who had a camera and a video camera in his, she made us go back and empty the contents into a tray and put them through seperate, she was the most arrogant person I have ever encountered at an airport, we have carried the same things time and time again through turkish airports without any trouble at all.

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
26/02/2011 21:53

you know yfred I wonder if people so neatly divide into fascists and non-fascists:

indeed one person's fanatic is another's patriot, and racism grotesque loyalty to the tribe



then again, on a divided island like cyprus, many individuals while personally humane,

probably have a gut feeling of sympathy for those nasty pieces of work on their own side



so I have never subscribed to the "just a few morons" theory, or blithley assumed there is

any educative programme under way or at least planned when there is not (or is there?)



and education for what? banging the 'sides back together without a proper consensus,

or alternatively training the young to accept political separation but with mutual respect?



some say the international community could provide the "answer" but their influence

has pretty severe limitatations as we now all know, and there is no agreed solution as yet

fiendishpaul


Joined: 18/05/2008
Posts: 1720

Message Posted:
27/02/2011 12:14

Woodspeckie



Re Message 32



Having to remove your laptop from your baggage before putting it through the X-Ray machine is the standard security practice in EU airports. Methinks you are being a bit paranoid



Paul

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
27/02/2011 14:13

Msg 12,

"Then we have these ex-pats gone native believing all the trite rubbish that singles out GCs as the injured party in the property arena. They are worst of all because if they (Brits gone GC barmy) had enquiring minds they would make sure they knew their facts before they spouted drivel the like of which you mention."



You could be saying exactly the same thing if you substituted "GC" FOR "TC" or "Turkish". Self-interest makes all sorts of people try and make excuses for war crimes as long as they can benefit from it on the back of ordinary Cypriots' suffering. International law is quite clear about who the bogeyman is in Cyprus. Those who cash in on the division are no better than two-bit criminals dealing in stolen goods.

Let's face the facts with some honesty!

YFred


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
27/02/2011 14:57

andre514,



No it is not just a few nasty people. One third is Pro Peace, a second thirds is against peace (mainly the fascists) and the final third are the equivalent Sun readers who don't have a clue and blow which ever way the wind blows. If we make it as difficult as possible for them, it must be better. I am not suggesting it is solved. The roc Justice system lock stock and barrel needs to cleansed of the fascists.



I am mere pointing out the obvious and easy fix for a simple problem.

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
27/02/2011 15:02

zoots:



good point about self-interest,

...but that equally applies to your posting message 35 as well



and obviously there are plenty of folk

who stand to cash-in richly if reunification were ever to occur



andre