not sure how I missed this

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 11:13

I don't remember this classic at the time. I must have been focused on other stuff in my life



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-NOZU2iPA8

chrissie


Joined: 29/01/2008
Posts: 50

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 11:23

blimey ILC - perhaps it should have stayed lost. how could you inflict that on us first thing in the morning ....

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 11:26

Hi Chrissie, I thought that would have filled you with the joys of......... but I know what you mean. It's a bit harsh on the system

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 11:28

ILC they rock, they put the stones to shame. AAAGHH i will be singing this all day now.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 11:32

I know what you mean Jock, it's a bit contagious 'like a mountie he'll get you anyway he can..........'

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 11:48

How nice to see people singing their praises.



Good post Mark.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 11:49

Even their name smacks of something a bit incestous don't you think?



Sonseed.... indeed!



This is what happens when you breed in a small gene pool.... I guess

brian24001


Joined: 23/03/2008
Posts: 606

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 12:18

Mark,

You have raised an important issue here.

If the message is to be spread far and wide, and we are make the world more aware of the good that exists rather than the immoral, then people need to be subjected to songs like this more, the ska/christian band Sonseed from New York also have an album by the same name as the song in the clip. And for anyone wanting to be kept up to date with the bands activities, you can visit their URL at http://www.myspace.com/sonseed and join their group of friends.

You can also download their latest album 'First Fruit' in MP3 format at http://www.cabel.name/2008/09/sonseed-full-album.html

For people wanting to carry a little of the Sonseed message with them wherever they go, you can download the song as a ring tone at http://www.jesusismyfriend.info/ the First Fruit album is available here to.

Perhaps we should have it as a secret Cy44 members ringtone, a bit like the (alleged) Masonic handshake.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 12:29

I've already put it on my ringtone Brian. I hope to spread the message throughout London. Please feel free to call me anytime







I know what you mean Groucho

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 12:35

"people need to be subjected to songs like this more"



Really?



People don't need to be subjected to anything, surely in this day and age people can make up their own minds!



Any way Jesus can't be your friend he's mine.....



I like Jesus but he loves me... which is awkward....

Oilman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 225

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 16:45

How bad is that???

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 17:09

Who Is Jesus: God or Just a Good Man?

Josh McDowell analyzes 3 choices that Jesus gave us to explain His identity. By Josh McDowell





Jesus' distinct claims of being God eliminate the popular ploy of skeptics who regard Him as just a good moral man or a prophet who said a lot of profound things. So often that conclusion is passed off as the only one acceptable to scholars or as the obvious result of the intellectual process.



The trouble is, many people nod their heads in agreement and never see the fallacy of such reasoning.



C. S. Lewis, who was a professor at Cambridge University and once an agnostic, understood this issue clearly. He writes:



"I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: 'I'm ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don't accept His claim to be God.'



That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic ‑ on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg ‑ or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the son of God: or else a madman or something worse."



Then Lewis adds:



"You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come up with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to."



In the words of Kenneth Scott Latourette, historian of Christianity at Yale University: "It is not His teachings which make Jesus so remarkable, although these would be enough to give Him distinction. It is a combination of the teachings with the man Himself. The two cannot be separated."



Jesus claimed to be God. He didn't leave any other option open. His claim must be either true or false, so it is something that should be given serious consideration.



Jesus' question to His disciples, "But who do you say that I am?" (Matthew 16:15) has several alternatives.



First, suppose that His claim to be God was false. If it was false, then we have only two alternatives. He either knew it was false or He didn't know it was false.



We will consider each one separately and examine the evidence.



Was He a Liar?

If, when Jesus made His claims, He knew that He was not God, then He was lying and deliberately deceiving His followers.



But if He was a liar, then He was also a hypocrite because He told others to be honest, whatever the cost, while He himself taught and lived a colossal lie. More than that, He was a demon, because He told others to trust Him for their eternal destiny. If He couldn't back up His claims and knew it, then He was unspeakably evil. Last, He would also be a fool because it was His claims to being God that led to His crucifixion.



Many will say that Jesus was a good moral teacher. Let's be realistic. How could He be a great moral teacher and knowingly mislead people at the most important point of His teaching ‑His own identity?



You would have to conclude logically that He was a deliberate liar. This view of Jesus, however doesn't coincide with what we know either of Him or the results of His life and teachings.



Wherever Jesus has been proclaimed, lives have been changed for the good, nations have changed for the better, thieves are made honest, alcoholics are cured, hateful individuals become channels of love, unjust persons become just.



William Lecky, one of Great Britain's most noted historians and a dedicated opponent of organized Christianity, writes:



"It was reserved for Christianity to present to the world an ideal character which through all the changes of 18 centuries has inspired the hearts of men with an impassioned love; has shown itself capable o

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 18:02

Oh dear, where are we going with this?

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 18:36

No further hopefully.........

brian24001


Joined: 23/03/2008
Posts: 606

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 20:16

My dyslexic insomniac mate tells me he often lays awake wondering if there really is a dog.

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 20:21

Look i thought the song was crap......

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 21:01

Jock,



It was worse than that.... it was probably the worst song I've heard with a religious theme in all my years... and not only was the music bad the lyrics were pathetic and banal too...



I absolutely hate it and find no redeeming features in it at all... and the perpetrators should be stoned... actually they look as though they probably were!



Fancy trying to make money out of religion and making such a cock-up of it to boot!



Just my opinion of course...

no1doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 21:20

Groucho & Jock, you could be a double act! Great posts

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 21:25

This is my favourite Jesus movie!



Thou shalt not miss it!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkqX3h2-0_Y



Lem

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 21:26

Groucho, i loved your comment about fancy trying to make money out of religion. Good grief it must have been rubbish weed they were on............

gillken


Joined: 25/05/2008
Posts: 521

Message Posted:
04/10/2008 14:54

Hector!!



Does anyone know which apartment complex Hector owns at?

He kindly took over post for Solicitor last friday, getting a little concerned that he forgot it and its still on the kitchen table in UK.

Oilman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 225

Message Posted:
04/10/2008 18:31

ILC magic starter. Try clicking on this link to see why God pop music really don't mix well! http://www.stevecarter.com/albumcovers.htm

no1doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
05/10/2008 00:47

I heard they are making a movie

frontalman



Joined: 28/02/2008
Posts: 499

Message Posted:
05/10/2008 11:59

Why is it the best music comes from the other meeting, you know, the one where they're all smashed out of their heads on drugs????????



Bill Hicks, God bless you!

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
05/10/2008 12:03

msg 24,



Yeah, sorry about the noise, man.