the world has changed so much, is it for the better???

shrimp


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 19:43

In just the last 50 years we have seen such a change in the world, better cars, transport, technology.......

BUT is it a good thing? All things considered I think I prefer the old life with more time for people and a slower pace of life. How would people survive now without their mobiles, laptops, etc.....we always got by before.........Apart from the great strides made by world health that prolong life, do you think the world is a better place???

philbailey


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 19:44

Health care ?

havalı


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 19:51

now ı thought that movıng to north cyprus was goıng back 50yrs for most of you lol

shrimp


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 19:56

message 2, yes healthcare indeed, it may still leave alot to be desired, but we no longer die from polio, childbirth, the big C can be treated and in many cases cured......many of the nasty diseases that were rife are now no longer a concern.....

message 3.........yes, but will they leave their mobiles, laptops behind or take them with them???

philbailey


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 20:00

msg 4 inWest countries

I am sure a few African countries would disagree

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 20:05

No. Progress hasn't made the world a better place. Yes we are living longer but what type of life are some people having in their old age?

Millions of people are starving - millions live in fear of their lives - millions are lonely - millions are in poor health - and on and on..

philbailey


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 20:06

msg 6 my point exactly

Quarmby


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 20:10

Doesn't every generation criticise their lifestyles and l long for their earlier way of life?

philbailey


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 20:12

People are more shallow and greedy

The old stick together spirit and community spirit has gone



each for their own is the rule now

Lilli



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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 20:14

I agree my No 1 . I was talking to a customer the other night. Another Irish lady , about the awful weather we had that day. She reminded me about the weather in Ireland and the fact we didn't have electric until we were 12 , so why would we worry about power cuts etc. It went on to all we had in UK so we get used to bringing logs in here, light candles when the leckie goes. We toast bread by the fire, we buy water to drink . I think its nice to go back to basic. I think we became victims in a way after the war. I remember rationing. Then all of a sudden TV, cars your own house etc . Now to send your child to school has to be a fashion statement. So Progress hasn't made us better only greedy and our values in the wrong place. xxx

walkerscott


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 20:17

Most of us feel that our way of life is threatened when we face any kind of major change especially if it is around relationships, money and health. Any one of these can be very challenging, any two incrediably difficult and all three utterly devastating.

i miss the sixties and seventies when, people had respect for others, you could leave your home unlocked and return without finding it ransacked, when people helped each other and appreciated what they had .... but i cannot turn the clock back.

I would like to think that all of us can makae even more changes in the way we move through life.

Let's try and change Fear into Excitement, Worry into Wonder, Expectation into Anticipation, Resistance into Acceptance, Disappointment into Detachment, Enragement into Engagement, Addiction into Preference, Requirement into Contentment, Judgement into Observation, Sadness into Happiness, Thought into Presence, Reaction into Response, and a Time of Turmoil into a Time of Peace!

We can all do it

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 20:20

You are right. We all want more. Bigger faster cars. Bigger houses. Designer clothes. The old want to look younger and the young want to look older. Cosmetic surgery is on the rise.

shrimp


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 20:21

wise words once again from Walkerscott...........x

martinD41


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 20:21

msg4 What a very myopic view you have of the World when more than half are Starving...Try to catch up ...

oceana


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 20:25

I dont think the world is a better place, time is killing the world and people! The more technology is developing the worser it is for the world I would say!! I believe technology has ruined a lot of things in the world like, Nature and human qualities which people once valued. We now how all sorts of disasters in the world, people also do not have respect for one another, eg: families.... Everyone is keeping them selves occupied with any kind of technology they can use... Technology is taking over the world, plus taking over our lives aswell, like it is doing now, me writing on this board. I hate the way life is now.

Lilli



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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 20:26

Walkerscott I just love reading your posts. A very good friend send me a book called cosmic ordering. Its changed my perspective. Have you written any books. Bill thats the problem I'm better than my neighbour attitude, cosmetic surgery on the rise. Its all so false now that people do not know who they really are. saying that if anyone could sponsor me for a face lift I may not say No . Now that makes me a hypocrite

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 20:34

Walkerscott. Your last paragraph makes a lot of sense. If only people would change , unfortunately it won't happen.

Lilli



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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 20:36

Oceana, you are so right, the world is shifting. we all laughed at save the world campaigns, but every year households in the UK throw away the equivalent of 3.5 million double Decker buses . a queue that would go from London to Sydney. every year 17.5 million plastic bags advertise the store and thrown away. 17.5 billion seconds ago it was the year 1449. On average each person in the \UK throws away 7 times their body weight in rubbish each year.

martinD41


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 20:40

Walkerscott...Fine words and a truly wonderful Ideal, but try telling it to the starving brutalised masses....There are far more of them than there are of us lucky ones

oceana


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 20:44

It's such a serious issue Lilli if only everyone was to realise this.

Lilli



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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 20:46

Martin you are so right but many countries do send aid which sadly never gets to them. Look at the palace Mugabe lives in. That's what I find so wrong that food medicine aid etc will never get to the poor people , then they get roped into child selling for prostitution or recruited for warfare mafia type.All at a young age with no chance of education or indeed a childhood. I have given so much money to these countries when appeals come out, nothing reaches them. How do we break that down xxxxx

philbailey


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 20:51

Today, over 22,000 children died around the world







That is equivalent to:







* 1 child dying every 4 seconds



* 15 children dying every minute



* A 2010 Haiti earthquake occurring almost every 10 days



* A 2004 Asian Tsunami occurring almost every 10 days



* An Iraq-scale death toll every 18–43 days



* Just under 8.1 million children dying every year



* Some 88 million children dying between 2000 and 2009







but not news worthy

Lilli



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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 20:54

Phil where do you get these figures from. That has really hit home and is so sad. Oh my god.

philbailey


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 20:55

http://www.globalissues.org/article/715/today-over-22000-children-died-around-the-world



read the section why it is not news worthy

flowerfairy


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 20:56

I too was a teenager in the 60/70's. I did not like the way my life was going to end up like if we stayed in UK

as a pensioner.

I came from a small community where most people cared about each other, but times were changing. Police

couldn't do their job, teachers too were not able to apply any source of disipline.

Here in Cyprus,people do have a lot of the old values,ie. caring, sharing etc.

Without a doubt I would not have coped recently without my friends, neighbours and family.

I can't change the world, but I sure as heck don't want this island to change it's values. Keep europe

out, and leave us as we are, if you feel you want to make changes, please go back and leave well alone.

It isn't perfect, but it's good enough for me and mine.

philbailey


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 21:02

msg 25 interesting

do you claim any benefits from the uk/eu or pensions

do you still use your uk passport ?

flowerfairy


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 21:12

I've never claimed a benefit in my life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What has a pension got to do with it???????

Of course I use my UK passport, I'm British, it's the only one I hold.........and........

philbailey


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 21:17

My point was you said

"Keep europe



out, and leave us as we are"



but you still like the comfort of an eu passport

why not give it up

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 21:25

Mess 24. Good link.

halffull


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 21:26

In the old days you got paid in your hand and you knew what you had and how long it had to last and what bills you had to pay.

The bank manager was only visited rarely if ever and didn't control you, the council was run by the town clerk on a normal wage.

I'll have that brought back!!!

flowerfairy


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 21:27

What comfort, I don't think I have/had a choice, did I miss the opportunity to vote to keep my British passport????

walkerscott


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 21:51

It's all about Perspective!

Nothing that is observed is unaffected by the observer ... (the place from which you are looking determines what you see) ...

From pure being flows Consciousness, from Consciousness flows Awareness, from Awareness flows Perspective, from Perspective flows Perception, from Perception flows Belief, from Belief flows Behaviour, from Behaviour flows Events, from Events flows Data, from Data flows Truth, from Truth flows Thought, from Thought flows Emotion, from Emotion flows Experience, from Experience flows Reality ...

Here's a secret, Life's changes are neither arbitrary nor without rhyme or reason, but, rather, are very sophisticated adjustments in a very sophisticated system, the System of the Soul.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 21:56

System of the Soul? Sorry walkerscott You've lost me with that one.

walkerscott


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 22:09

The Soul is here to evolve! Who do you think you are anyway ... ? Hmm, it depends on your perspective.

There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy ...

Jeannie


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 22:23

I've just been watching a TV programme including a trailer for this coming Friday's 'Comic Relief'. They were showing footage of children dying in Africa of malaria. Treatment is relatively simple. I ask myself this:



1. WHY are people still dying of an easily treated disease in the 21st century?

2. Why don't the huge pharmaeutical companies provide these drugs (which, in many cases cost pence to manufacture) for free. They make millions of pounds of profit each year.



Or are my thoughts too simplistic?

flowerfairy


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 22:39

Jeannie, my sister lived in Nairobi for years, we met her in Mombassa 19 years ago. The Japanese paid for the construction of the Kilifi bridge...3 times...in the end, they sent their own construction team out to finish the bridge. Where do you think the money went?

An affluent member of my family worked for Oxfam for a while, until she went to a board meeting. After she saw the Bentleys and like parked outside, needless to say, she declined to help them workwise

I could go on with other experienses, but won't bore you. When I give to a worthy cause, I take the object to the source, then I know the needs are met.

shrimp


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 22:47

Yes, sadly this is true flowerfairy, friends of ours had close dealings with Oxfam and only a very small percentage of the monies raised acturally get to where the money is intended to go.....the rest is taken up with "admin and other costs!"

flowerfairy


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 22:53

REmember the cancer books that used to be delivered to your doors????

Our, so called friends ran one of those companies.It imerged that 1p in the £ went to the research, oh yes, they donated amazing machinery to hospitals now and then. But, boy, did they make the money, needless to say, we shied away from invitations after we found out and didn't buy the cancer research books any more.

Jeannie


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 22:54

Messages 36 & 37. Sorry, I should have made myself clearer. I am very careful about donating to charity, exactly for the reasons stated in your messages i.e. that I am aware that very little (if any) of the donations made end up where they are supposed to. My idea was (possibly naively) that representative of the big pharmaceutical companies could physically go and present drugs to the clinics, hospitals, etc. rather than going through the "middle men". As I say, this is probably a very naive way of looking at things.



Shrimp, you're absolutely right. Oxfam, as a charity, apparently has a poor reputation for this.



I worked for a charity for many years and am only too aware of "Charity Mentality" - and that's in the UK.

philbailey


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 22:58

Marsha J. Evans, President and CEO of the American Red Cross... salary for year ending 06/30/03 was $651,957 plus expenses.



The Salvation Army pays one employee over $200,000; neither the United Church nor the Anglicans pay anyone that much. And Oxfam — of its employees, nobody gets more than $160,000.

walkerscott


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 23:09

No one acts inappropriately, given their model of the world. The problem is education not intent.

Remember as well, Each of us, as an individual aspect of the divine one, is creating and co-creating our individual and collective reality. We only have to remember that we are all One. When we understand that, all the problems we have created in our lives will go away. Every single life problem of which I am aware is based in the thought that there is a thing called "separation". .. As soon as the thought of separation disappears, all of the problems of life disappear as well.

flowerfairy


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 23:15

Walkerscott, what wise words, if only I could understand them

walkerscott


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 23:18

Joan

we will have to get together for a few cuppa teas at Mardos to chat about it all

it is a subject we can discuss for hours.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 23:22

Wise words indeed. Are they linked to some sort of religious beliefs?

philbailey


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 23:23

Wise words indeed. Are they linked to some sort of religious beliefs?



or cannabis?

flowerfairy


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 23:36

Walkerscott, indeed we should, but beware, I used to be blonde!!!!!!

walkerscott


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 23:47

I do not have any time whatsoever for religion of any kind. I am a spiritulist.

Talking about Cannabis, I may have been affected recently I was called back to Cornwall by the Police because they raided my home which i let out for the first time in 30 years, to find the largest Cannabis factory in Cornwall with the best skunk ever!

You cannot experience that Which You Are except in the space of that Which You Are Not. For in the absence of that Which You Are Not, that which you are—is not!

Have a nice weekend

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 23:52

Have a good week-end also Walkerscott.

Navek



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Message Posted:
13/03/2011 00:14

Here's a video taken in 1906, almost 105 yers ago!

Been a few changes since then.



This film was originally thought to be from 1905 until David Kiehn with the Niles Essanay Silent Film Museum figured out exactly when it was shot.

From New York trade papers announcing the film showing to the wet streets from recent heavy rainfall & shadows indicating time of year & actual weather and conditions on historical record,

even when the cars were registered (he even knows who owned them and when the plates were issued!).

It was filmed only four days before the Great California Earthquake of April 18th 1906

and shipped by train to NY for processing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=NINOxRxze9k

Enjoy,

Navek