Wake up UK People!

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
01/10/2008 15:09

Moaning Brits! its my turn now.......Our Great leader Mr Gordon (Lucifer) Brown is making statements that he cannot guarantee our savings in this country.....Only...Maybe only up to £50k!



After all that Evil man and his party have done...robbing the pension coffers, giving money away to any scrounger that wants it...mismanaging our taxes....TAKE, TAKE, TAKE.....TAX, TAX, TAX........He now says your money aint safe in banks and building societies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



AH, But its OK to bail out greedy Banks!!!!!!!



What about the hard working Man in the street!!!!!!!??????



Gordon Brown step down Please!



WHEN are you People of UK going to wake up to this Evil lot and kick them out!!!!!!!!!



New Labour stands for Communism Controlled State officials!



Wake up people!



Angry nunu..!

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
01/10/2008 15:11

what's happened to your eternal optimism nunu?

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
01/10/2008 15:15

In light of the Northern Rock fallout, how about a list please of the banks and their subsidiaries so we can spread our risk? Martin Chapman.



Alan O'Sullivan, saving and banking expert with This is Money, replies: It needs to be reiterated that any of your savings with Northern Rock are safe following Chancellor Alistair Darling's pledge to cover all savers' deposits at the bank





Here is a quick recap of the levels of compensation you can receive from the Financial Services Compensation Scheme: up to £35,000 of your deposits are protected, made up of 100% of the first £2,000 and 90% of the next £33,000, equalling £31,700 in total.



However this is only per person, per institution, so if you only get one payment if you have two deposits with different banks that are nonetheless part of the same group.



Bank of Scotland is provider of AA, Birmingham Midshires, Hallifax, Intelligent Finance, Saga, so do not have more than a £35,000 deposit with each of these brands if you want your entire pot of money covered by the FSCS. Cahoot is provided by Abbey; if you had an account with each of these, you would only receive one payment from the FSCS.



Similarly Lloyds TSB has C&G and Scottish Widows as savings brands, while the Royal Bank of Scotland has Direct Line and Lombard. Although Tesco Personal Finance and NatWest are within the Royal Bank of Scotland Group, they are classed as separate legal entities and therefore any deposits held with each will be covered separately by the FSCS.



The Egg savings brand is provided by Citigroup; HSBC has First Direct and Marks & Spencer Money. However the latter is separately authorised by the City watchdog to HSBC so a deposit with both of these will secure two payments from the FSCS.



In particular, if you are looking to move your money out of Northern Rock, then perhaps avoid Legal & General, as it is the savings brand of the beleaguered bank.



Newcastle Building Society has BMW Savings as a savings brand; Woolich is provided by Barclays.

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
01/10/2008 15:18

Sorry IloveCyprus! Im fed up with Criminal Government we have....Hence Im trying to get away from the ~UK...



I know TRNC has its own Politics and Red tape but this lot in UK........and the Bloody news papers and Media say and do nothing! aHHHH I know why because they are controlled to what they can say thats it! (UK Media)



People really are stupid in UK!!!!!!!



All we are here, are cashcows!



nunu..................

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
01/10/2008 15:28

I hope Gordon Brown reads this forum site! he might learn something!



I thinks its back to the old days of keeping your money under the floorboards!!!



At least you know its there, you can see it, feel it and smell it!..................Oh and its just the burglers you have to worry about then not some incompetant bank!



I haven't finished yet people!



More to come! Ask the Oracle nunu any questions you like? Im interested to hear from you?



Sorry to be so negative to day....



nunu.

Perry


Joined: 27/01/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
01/10/2008 15:29

Nunu - he won't have the guts to call an election. Fortunately our system dictates he has to after 5 years - so 18 months max - and yes I am counting. They will be kicked out of office (thankfully) - so I guess people are finally waking up to how awful they are and what a mess they have made of our country. History also shows that if he hangs on until the bitter end, the greater the defeat will be - so he may call an earlier poll - here's hoping !

eager


Joined: 23/02/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
01/10/2008 15:45

Glad to say i have banked witk Bank of Ireland, As of yesterday they are guaranteeing 100% of savings and not just £35,000 like the banks in the uk.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
01/10/2008 16:21

With a free bottle of Guinness for premium account holders.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
01/10/2008 16:33

NUNU1...What makes you think the others will be any different.They allpromise you the earth and give yuo apile of dust. Ther are things that have happened in the last 2years that no government could have halted. As Eager says you can always transfer your monies to an Irish bank .They are guaranteeing 100%of your investments...

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
01/10/2008 16:38

My money is all tied up.



In a hanky underneath my mattress!

reproman


Joined: 05/06/2008
Posts: 252

Message Posted:
01/10/2008 16:50

http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/



http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/savings/safe-savings



Some interesting sites if you are into all this....

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
01/10/2008 17:05

Take time out to answer this quick quiz:



Which is the best place to put your savings?



a. Old sock

b. Mattress

c. One-armed bandit





(correct answer is c)

tinker


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 156

Message Posted:
01/10/2008 17:11

No1Doyen you are lucky...



We haven't got any... Kibtek have taken it



Tinker

Mr Vince


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 696

Message Posted:
01/10/2008 17:18

Nunu1

I am not a lover of GBeither but do you not remember the previous lot in government?

Norman Lamont.....interest rates rise from 6% to 16% in a day

Mad Maggie and the Poll Tax

JohnMajor selling off all the country's "silver" Gas, rail, electric, anything realy to raise cash.

Sleeze, corruption, cash for questions, Jefrey Archer, The Hamiltons, John Major bonking EGGwina Curry.........



Lets be honest every one of them is just as bad as the previouse lot and the next lot will unfortunately be just the same only with differing names

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
01/10/2008 18:01

The 75-year-old groom, with his new young wife, attracting a lot of

attention as they checked into the resort hotel.



The following morning, the old boy came strutting into the dining

room, lookin' great with a big smile on his face. He proceeded to

order an enormous breakfast.



He laughed and joked and was in obvious good spirits, whereas his

young wife, who came into the room a half hour later, looked worn

out. She ordered coffee in a voice so weak the waiter had to ask

her to repeat the order.



The old man finished his breakfast, excused himself and left for

their room. This gave the waitress a chance to ask the bride,

"Honey, I can't figure it out. The old geezer, your husband, looks

like a million and you look like two cents. What's wrong?"



"That guy double-crossed me," the bride said. "He told me he'd

saved up for fifty years! And all the time I thought he was

talking about money!"

bachelibelly


Joined: 04/09/2008
Posts: 275

Message Posted:
02/10/2008 01:42

OK,So Maggie,John Major etc were not perfect,but whoever takes over when Gorden decides to be the GOpher is going to inherit the largest debt that this country has every had and will never be in a position to repay and the only person laughing is Tony Blair who quit at the top and shafted his "good mate" in the process.One example of how incompetent this country has become ,the NHS ,the only brain cell in the whole set up is in a jar on a shelf somewhere looking for a donor body fit and capable of running it efficiently instead of wasting the billions thrown at it by the neanderthalls.



Send all the politicions as extras in series 4 of "LOST" and put a team of proven successful entrepenaurs in charge of the logistics of running the country as a business not a "CHARITY". Not that any of them would probably want the job !!!!!!!!!

Rocker



Joined: 24/09/2008
Posts: 384

Message Posted:
02/10/2008 09:07

I woke 10 years ago when Blair and Brown sold the tube, which now is again paid for by the Tax Payers as the Tendering left much to be desired and 1 syndicate went broke last year. Have you seen Brown gave the City 1.3 trillion poubnds to safe the economy, that was kept at a very low profile, more money borrowed from the IMF. The way the Brits are leaving the UK there is not much tax revenue mind all the EU workers ı AM SURE ARE PAYİNG ı DONT THİNK SO

ROCKER

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
02/10/2008 09:18

The banking crisis has been engineered not by the UK Gov. but by greedy banks chasing profits that were vapour....



Who in their right mind thought it was a good idea to lend money to bad debt risks in a market over-heating as the housing market has been in spite of all the economic indicators? Only a fool... is the answer.



That so many fools had got their hands on our money is the real crime...



The top people in these banks should be held to account for their actions instead they've all got themsleves lovely severance clauses that will reward their inept stewardship!



It's these people that should be put up against a wall... and have their assests stripped...

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
02/10/2008 09:58

The top people in these banks should be held to account for their actions instead they've all got themsleves lovely severance clauses that will reward their inept stewardship!



How true that statement is. These were the people that authorised loans using income multiples of up to 10 times income, to borrowers who had previous loan arrears and CCJ's.



Shame on all of them.

dalartokat


Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 734

Message Posted:
02/10/2008 10:26

Nanu1, on the radio yesterday it stressed that it will be £50,000 to be guaranteed "per depositer". So if you have a joint account it will be assumed that it is half each. If you have more than one deposit account with the same bank and there is a licence agreement in place for both deposit accounts then you will be guaranteed also £50,000 for each account.



As far as Northern Rock, it is now becoming one of the safer banks to deposit as well as the Irish Banks where it will be guaranteed.



If you can receive it, BBC Radio 5 live is broadcasting between 6-7pm tomorrow a programme all about this and hopefully will be worth listening to.



I have to agree though that putting money under the matress is looking to be a good idea at the moment and not the one arm bandit our PtePike has suggested.

ataturk


Joined: 09/09/2008
Posts: 712

Message Posted:
02/10/2008 10:39

What would happen if you had savings in a bank that went under but it was the same bank you had your mortgage with. Do you think you could offset the difference. If i was in that situation I would take away the difference and tell them to goto hell.



Just food for thought here

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
02/10/2008 11:10

£50,000 per depositer means exactly that. i.e a Joint account would mean £50,000 for each account holder.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
02/10/2008 11:43

Gordon Brown in not without blame, after eleven years of power and a strong economy there should have been some put away for a rainy day, but, he was not to blame for the massive rise in oil prices or the bad lending in America. Perhaps if Tony Blair had not jumped into bed with George Bush we would not have been so closely linked or dependant on the USA.

As for the other parties, it,s very easy to criticise when you haven,t got to sort it out, in my opinion Gordon Brown is better placed to deal with this situation than anyone else.

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
02/10/2008 11:51

Hattikins

I agree with you. I can't see anyone else better suited to deal with

problems we have at the moment. Certainly not Cameron with his

enormously wealthy and priveleged background. I dread it if he gets

voted in.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
02/10/2008 11:57

Phylray

Unless of course we don,t understand the gravity of the situation, us being pensioner women if you know what I mean.

Hattie

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
02/10/2008 12:03

ataturk. Yes you can offset.

Chessman


Joined: 13/05/2008
Posts: 486

Message Posted:
02/10/2008 16:19

It could be worse (slightly!). The UK could have this leader!



"I heard somebody say, 'Where's (Nelson) Mandela?' Well, Mandela's dead. Because Saddam killed all the Mandelas." --George W. Bush, on the former South African president, who is still very much alive, Washington, D.C., Sept. 20, 2007



http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms.htm

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
02/10/2008 17:42

Nunu

You say what about the working man?.There is no where for him to go,



Labour has spent most of the last 10 years helping the big boys ,and MP's, decide there own paypackets and allowing tax loopholes that are outwith the reach of the rest of us peasants, and now look at the thanks they have got from there mates.

I will never understand why some people get millions in bonus's for doing what they are well paid to do in the first place.And get even more when sacked.

However I dont agree that Brown is evil.

I have to agree with Hattikins, that Brown is the lesser of two evils, having watched the Tories this past year.

Northern Rock,- condemn labour for not acting ,then condemn them for acting,all the time refusing to say what they would do.



Little while back ,Osbourne says we should deregulate the banking system and govt shouldnt interfere, that will stimulate growth, great timing!!!, Now they are blaming labour again for not interfering quick enough. Its no good enough just saying Labour are wrong if you cant offer an alternative.Opposition isnt a policy!



Having listened to the Tory conference, can anyone give me one single policy statement, Oops, sorry, they announced they are going to finance weekly bin collection. Well hold me back!

"We are better than Labour ,so vote for us,"isnt a policy.



Also at the time of financial skullduggery ,It doesnt look good for what might be the next govt, to have a billionaire deputy chairman, and main donor. who refuses to say if he is a uk tax paying resident,and who uses his main residency of Belize to funnel party funding via holding company in the UK,using a legal loophole

Hardly transparent,

I doubt "the working man" is a priority for billionaire tax avoidance experts and their political friends .



It was a lot simpler in the past ,when Labour were in bed with the working man.

The Tories were in bed with the wealthy man.And the Liberals were in bed with anyone.



As if that wasnt bad enough, if the Americans with similar problems ,vote in McCain, then, should he die, the President of the United States will be someone who thinks Earth as we know it evolved in a week ,minus the day off to go shopping with the missus.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
02/10/2008 19:36

Well said Girne, Gordon Brown is far from perfect but compared to David Cameron he is the better of two evils. I do believe he can relate to the working man, albeit not often, but the other lot, many of who were born with a silver spoon in their mouth cannot possibly have any idea of what life is like in the real world.

In the present financial turmoil people can only see from there own point of view but sadly a solution for the best for the general public is what is needed, I,m sure there are a good few people who wish they had £50,000 in the bank to worry about, their priority is probably keeping up with the mortgage payments.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
02/10/2008 22:17

Hattikins..Wellsaid about the average working man and what he has inthe way of savings etc.Mr. brown and his party must have done something right over the last 11years or they wouldnt have lasted so long,but now that things have gone somewhat a little pear shape,due to no fault or Browns everyone wants his head on a platter.There is one thing I am sure of ,"Better the devil you know than the one you dont know".The other thing is ,if you think he has done nothing for the working man, then wait till the other lot get in.You will really see what doing nothing for the working man really means......

batterboy58



Joined: 20/04/2008
Posts: 442

Message Posted:
02/10/2008 22:57

David Cameron and most of his party may well have been born with silver spoons, but the fact that they still have their wealth speaks volumes about their ability to look after their money and assets.



On the other hand Labour have been borrowing money in record amounts to fund their out of control spending and plunging the country into record debts whilst encouraging the people to do the same. Its about time we all learnt to live within our means.



Something for something and nothing for nothing I know who gets my vote.



In the meantime remember to work hard because people on benefits are relying on you.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
03/10/2008 00:27

In my opinion the reason the *haves* still have their wealth is , A, they had plenty of it to start with and B, they know how to avoid paying their taxes. The working man has no say in that, it,s taken at source.

And as for the government encouraging people to get themselves in debt, only those actually involved know if they can afford something or not, it,s easy, if you can,t afford to pay for it then don,t buy, as you say batterboy58, we should live within our means.

Times are tough for everyone now, especially those on fixed incomes, so lets hope that in trying to sort out this mess everyones circumstances are taken into account, not just the fortunate ones.

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
03/10/2008 01:51

Batterboy

Dont give the silver spoon brigade so much credit.Daddy left them the dosh and they pay expensive accountants to make it work for them,.Not a lot of skill in that.

People who start from scratch and take risks have my every admiration.At least unlike the friends in the city they did not risk my money,but their own.





While some on benifits screw the system, for many its circumstances they would rather not be in. Given the choice of a decent job or £58 a week most would take the first but we never hear of those.

Anyway ,if Govt policy was to sack all the miners,all the steelworkers ,then it has to be policy to pay benifits.

A lot of what we hear is often " Ive got a mate, who has an auntie ,who has a friend, whose daughter saw an asylum seeker get a free washing machine, telly and car.



As for people on benifits relying on me,then so be it,and if I fall on hard times then I can also rely on the same help.

The amount of money I have lost in taxation to benfit fraud is nothing compared to what I have had lost from my pensions ,endowments etc ,and at least I dont have to pay the benifit cheat a bonus into the bargain.



Do a Saturday job and dont declare it ,you are destroying the nation.

Pay yourself a million in bonus's out of loss making pension funds ,and then paying no tax as you really " live" in Monaco, well thats ok ,its an incentive.



Labour ,Tory. I vote with my heart as the head can see no real difference.

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
03/10/2008 02:24

Hattikins

Yes, I know what you mean, and we've seen it all before.

The younger generation don't seem to know how to live

within their means. This worries me, as we learnt how to

cope, economise, scrimp & make do & mend. But I am shocked

to see the wast

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
03/10/2008 02:29

Hattikins

Yes, I know what you mean, and we've seen it all before.

The younger generation don't seem to know how to live

within their means. This worries me, as we learnt how to

cope, economise, scrimp & make do & mend. But I am shocked

to see the waste these days. Readymade meals, full of chemicals,

salt, sugar etc. when it's so easy to prepare a wholesome meal.

In the supermarkets, piles of salt laden crisps which they are

addicted to and bottled water, minerals etc. etc. Very poor.

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
03/10/2008 02:57

S..t how do I keep repeating mysel..?

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
03/10/2008 04:16

So to summarise, what has happened to the UK? It's become the PC capital of the word. The key ndustries that once were the pride of home and abroad have gone,in place of new industries. the banking system, and now their jobs are threatened or have gone.



They have f****d up education, health, the police, lawyers and in fact anything that they could meddle with. They have let in more immigrants than they can cope with (legal and illegal - don't even think they have told you the correct figures, they would be too scared to do so). Houses/homes being repossessed because of the current downturn mean that people have to be rehoused. Where is the housing stock? No-where, there are no new local authority housing projects, so instead these poor (once proud to own their own home) families, victims of this credit crunch are reliant upon Social security B&B (through no fault of their own), and throwing the towel in (as sensible people would) opt to quit their jobs and claim income support. Who could blame them? They followed the dream and lost. Very soon there will be more state benefit claimants than tax payers and what is the Government going to do about that? Raise taxes of course. It's a no win situation for everyone.



Gordon (the moron) resign now before it becomes intenable. Call a General Election because you are struggling to run the Country. I actually feel sorry for Gordon, left with the legacy of the "gob shite grinning goblin" who has gone on to pastures new in the Middle East. One can only hope it is a matter of time there? Historically you are judged by your worst incident/event. OMG has Tony left this man to pick up the shit or what?



This Government are in turmoil, and cannot even reassure us as to what will happen in this current economic crisis. Hmmm. Time for a change? Trouble is they are all the same. Politics would be great without the Politicians. Spin spin and more spin.

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
05/10/2008 06:15

Girne29 and W36Kay......Good postings well said!.....I think you are on the nunu frequency!



What a complete mess the World is in!



nunu

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
05/10/2008 09:04

Have you all seen who GB has now turned to - The Prince Of Darkness himself.



He lost jobs in cabinet before, not once but twice!!!! The man is not even an MP.



While I agree totally with comments of these clowns must go but other than William Hague, there is not a person on other side that I have seen say much of any real meaning. So what do you do? For the first time in 40 years I will not be voting in the election when it happens and that is a sad indicment of politic today.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
05/10/2008 10:20

Have you all seen who GB has now turned to - The Prince Of Darkness himself.



There's an old maxim, "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer"



Maybe Mandy knows too much....



Conspiracy theory?

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
05/10/2008 11:34

Hi All.



When Labour took over Government the countries finances were in reasonably good order.



They are now in an unholy mess, not to mention off balance sheet PFI debt.



Who else can we hold responsible after 11 years of Labour Government?



Argue all you wish ,but you cannot deny THIS FACT. After every Labour Government, we



end up "cap in hand" to the IMF. (our real masters)



Now, I would not presume to suggest, who is going to sort out this shambles this time



It is easier to suggest, who should not hold high office. The only person that I have heard



talk any sense is Vince Cable Liberal Democrat?



Perhaps for an answer we should start thinking "out side the box".........



Any nominees for "The biblical Antichrist" ? I'm off to Church!



wyn

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
05/10/2008 14:36

The working man, or average family are the cash cows.................They are the majority.........Peasants........without these people the UK would not function!.....I believe the whole UK (working class) Should take tomorrow morning off and march to the houses of Parliament and have a vote of no confidence in this Criminal Government and oist them OUT!



AND have them all tried for Treason, mass fraud and DECEPTION!!!!



Lets have a new party formed and running this country...call it "TMSP" The Man in The Street Party and have a "Realist" for a leader somebody that knows what the hell He/She is Talking about!!!!



nunu