Well will they take him down

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
19/03/2011 22:25

All this now going on and Hilary Clintons speech will he go from Libya. 110 fired on the place today. Will the UN resolution work for the poor people there

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
19/03/2011 22:31

Liz

The rugby commentary (your lot) is being interrupted by breaking news on Libya. And France have just scored!



Richard

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3533

Message Posted:
19/03/2011 22:41

US media say the US has fired Cruise missiles on Libya from a warship.



Western planes bombed targets in the capital, Tripoli, said the AFP news agency, quoting witnesses and state TV.



A British submarine has fired a number of missiles at Libyan air defence targets, the Ministry of Defence said.

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
19/03/2011 22:43

Not before time. Obama has come across somewhat spineless in this business.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3533

Message Posted:
19/03/2011 22:52

The US also reveals 25 coalition ships, including three US submarines armed with Tomahawk missiles, are stationed in the Mediterranean.



A US military chief says a total of 110 Tomahawk missiles have been launched against Libyan sites. He said the Coalition operation has been named Odyssey Dawn

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
19/03/2011 23:47

I suppose taxes in the UK will have to increase to pay for this

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
19/03/2011 23:49

Bill

I think they've already risen to the occasion!



Richard

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3533

Message Posted:
19/03/2011 23:54

They cost according to wikipedia $569,000 each or $62,590,000 total so far

Without launch vehcles/man-power etc



Just the hardware cost without development or storage costs

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
20/03/2011 00:06

I don't think Obama is 'spineless' at all, but very wise. He does not want to be seen as U.S might

leading this, but as part of a coalition, which includes Arab states (don't see evidence of which or

what they are actually doing yet)

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
20/03/2011 00:22

Missiles being fired from British ans US submarines

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
20/03/2011 00:45

Bill

As a 'MOD' would it not be possible for you to place all posts/links refering to Libya into one heading?



Richard

Hoylemiller



Joined: 03/09/2010
Posts: 240

Message Posted:
20/03/2011 07:40

Should've done it straight after Lockerbie...

Mr Vince


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 696

Message Posted:
20/03/2011 13:17

Why has the western world suddenly become concerned about the legitimate recognized government of a country using military might to quash a civil war? Does this not happen all the time around the world? History is full of civil war. So why do France and UK and others care about what happens in Libya.



OIL OIL OIL OIL. Not the Libyans but the control of their oil is their primary concern.



If you believe that western governments are protecting the Libyans' fight for democracy then you live in cloud cookoo land

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
20/03/2011 13:44

Yes it is largely to do with oil, but we should be concerned about oil. Oil is as important as water to us in the West. I wish it wasn't.



The reason for the intervention is mostly psychological, as are most things. France made a hash over it's former colony Tunisia and now it wants to make amends in Libya. It wants to wash away that embarrassment. Most democracies are not really concerned about the rebels, psychologically it is impossible for us to feel deep empathy for those we do not know, however we can experience our own guilt for not acting.



Interestingly, most foreign nationals who fought against us in Iraq came from Libya, no doubt many of these are the rebels we are now supporting. We sided with Gadafi because he was fighting al qaeda, just as we support the repressive Saudi regime. The trouble is that Gadafi has gone in to meltdown so needs to be taken out. Not sure how though, as the UN resolution does not specify this. It is going to get messy.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
20/03/2011 17:22

It will get very messy I fear, did you see his speech adddressing the nation. Warning all outside forces to stay well away or there will be reprisals.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
20/03/2011 17:35

He's off his trolley - that's for sure!

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
20/03/2011 17:39

Waiting for him to announce "The mother of all battles"!

Brinsley


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Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
20/03/2011 17:46

Bill

And he hasn't even got the excuse of poppy fields leading him astray as al-Qaeda has in Afghanistan!



Richard

walkerscott


Joined: 13/08/2009
Posts: 901

Message Posted:
20/03/2011 18:14

The majority of English do not support Cameron and his Tory Government. What on earth would we say if China and Russia said "get out David" ... you are killing off your own people by these drastic measures, dismantling the NHS, not caring what happens to the elderly who need long term health care, sacking up to 40% of the Police Force, major redundancies within the Civil Service and local government, and now reducing the Armed Forces! No one gave you a mandate to do this.

So why isn't David concentrating on our hungry, sick, aged, unemployed and many other needy people instead of wasting the nation's assets on another ill thought through "Regime Change" action?!

Why not help the peoples in earthquake and volcano stricken areas instead of waging wars?

Misinformation and disinformation prevail throughout the US and UK Government departments!

What is now happening has nothing to do with controlling a "No Fly Zone" ...

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3533

Message Posted:
20/03/2011 18:16

Msg 19 Well said

philbailey


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Posts: 3533

Message Posted:
21/03/2011 01:54

new video

please DO NOT WATCH IF SENSITIVE



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P2Tj9dCNW4&feature=player_embedded



plane shot down

Navek



Joined: 01/06/2008
Posts: 2656

Message Posted:
21/03/2011 04:01

Latest info here...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12776418

Navek