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No1Doyen


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What is happening to the UK? In the last couple of years we have had government ministers committing adultery, to inappropriate funding, to not telling the truth, paedophiles getting more or less a slap on the wrist and political correctness gone mad. All I seem to see now is who can shock us the most. Whether it is by drugs, sexual content or sexual abuses and violence. We used to be a proud and moral country, now we seem to be an embarrassment. One thing is certain though we are continuing on a downward spiral. There doesn’t seem to be any moral or ethical standards left. Stabbing is today's common place thing. How many youngsters have been stabbed this year and why are these people committing these crimes? Why bother working when housing is free and they send you a benefit cheque every month. Even better why not send someone to prison where they can get a degree if they behave themselves, forget about the victim, and don't you dare violate their human rights while they are in prison or they will sue you. If you broke the law you used to be punished; now you are rewarded with what they call rehabilitation. Recession yes we are in a recession – a moral and ethical recession.



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No1Doyen,



As usual very much to the point.



At this point in time add to your comments," Financial Meltdown". RBS share down 30%.



All major banks talking to the Government with their begging bowls. Unless some confidence returns to the markets, many of the points in your posting, will be little more than a distant

memory.



Serious Serious times! Time to roll out our prayermats!



wyn



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Too much pc, too many do-gooders, too many damn socialists!



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Doyen,



I'm surprised to see that kind of post coming from you. You're not old enough for the "why oh why" stuff yet. You do seem to be serious though, so if it's any consolation I remember my folks coming out with the same "country going to the dogs" stuff in the 1980s - while blaming it all on the freedoms of the 1950s and 1960s. And as for the late 1970s punk movement - that was the end of society. But we're all still here. T'was ever the case...



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Chessman,



That was very much to the point, as well.



wyn



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PP



I think it is a question of degree. Some of Doyen's examples, of course, applied to the decades you referred to and some are 'new'. The alarming aspect is the deterioration and acceleration of the breakdown of the social fabric of society. (omg I just used management speak!)



Anyway bring back the birch and give them all a jolly good thrashing!



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There is very little moral structure in the UK, I am appalled at how low some people will sink and the lack of justice dished out for the misdeeds.

Respect for others is sadly lacking, respect for authority is a thing of the past, responsibility for raising children has moved from parents to teachers or Government, discipline is a no no and human rights rules ok.

The sad thing is that people who dare to voice their concerns are classed as old fashioned and out of touch, it appears that life experience is to be mocked and not valued.



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hattikens, your last statement is so true - unfortunately.



PP, I suppose it is an age thing (I'm not that old!). You do start to worry more as you get older especially for your children and grandchildren. I don't stress all the time over this, just starting to become a little scary what is happening to the world. I remember back to when I was a child and it seems so many things are falling apart compared to back then. I think sometimes some people think everything will just turn out okay. We might be ok in our lifetime, but what about the future generations?



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Hattikins..the discipline factor has dissapeared altogether. Take schools e.g no cane for any rude remarks like we used to get,instead we have "detention" big deal,so they have to stay on for an extra half hour,where is the deterent factor in that. Isuppose the future generations will end like you see in some of these early sciece fiction films,walking around holding hands with a blank stare on there faces.Lets hope someone inthe not todistant future has the guts to stand up and rectify the situation. well thats my little rant for this morning hope I didnt offend any one but Ihappen to believe in corporal punishment when it is warranted....



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It all went to the dogs when National service was scrapped!! I can't pretend that I would want my son to have to go into the forces in todays climate - but at least it taught them how to accept orders and know that you had to do as you were told or else. They learned respect - something that is sadly lacking in all age groups today.

Only my opinion of course, and I stand ready to be shot down in flames.



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I'm inclined to agree with the reinstatement of National Service. However, I think Moral and Ethical teachings should start at home with the parents.



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Those in favour of national service don't have at heart the best interests of our armed forces or national defence. Recruitment levels and personal qualities of trainees are bad enough as it is without bringing in unwilling teenagers. IMO we're better off as we are making up numbers from Africa and the Caribbean where we can get excellent people.



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PP. You forgot to put a smiley after your post.



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Actually, I was serious that time.



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Coachie



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Pte Pike..I was serving at time the National Service was coming to an end and Ifound that these personel were very well trained and quite alot signed on for an extra year to get the extra pay,and Iam sure it would be the same today. A couple of years in the military would not do any one any harm,but it crtainly teaches them respect for authority..which,as has already been mentioned,is sadly lacking today...



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How anyone can question the qualities of the brave young people who are facing danger in Iraq and Afghanistan is beyond me, they are dealing with real enemies, not just the type of folk who may come into contact with a Special Constable.

I would have thought you would need to be amongst them in the line of fire before you could comment on the qualities of those involved but PP as usual makes derogatory remarks without knowing the facts.





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Now I have to come to the defence of Pikey....



Hattikins are you deliberately misreading his post?



He in no way made any disparaging remarks about the current serving forces..



He was saying adding consrcipts to their numbers would not help them do their job... which is very different.



You choose to try and score a point when none is there to be had...





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Agreed Groucho. This is typical where certain posters like Pt Pike are concerned, if they have posted it must be wrong.



I used to have the view of bring back conscription but as Pikey sort of says, if we had NS now perhaps we would have been a lot worse off in Iraq and Afghanistan than we actually are.



So come on Hattikins, please read the post and apologise for your misinterpretation of it.



hattikins


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Message 12 states " personal qualities of trainees are bad enough as it is ", so what is that saying.

If I have misread the posting then of course I apologise.



newlad



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Getting back to the original post.Its not only the u.k. thats in the mire its practically the world over.Cant honestly see how you could blame this one on the socialists it has to be the get rich quick im allright jack bankers.Those low lifers who make money at others expense The whole banking system needs looking at.Why not take some advice from the Irish.

Paul.



wynyardman



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No 1 Doyen,

Take the right for parents to bring up their own children!

Encourage both parents to work, leaving children to be bought up by others,

Encourage family units without a male role model.

Divorce at will.



Have a social security system , that is the envy of the world.

Allow unrestricted immigration.

A Health service FREE at the point of need.



Have a Government that spends beyond its means, and incomes, then allow them to spend BILLIONS further on PFI debts (off balance sheet) leaving 30 years of debts to be repaid.

That imposes £5 Billion annually of stealth taxes on pensions income.

That taxes house sales (often enforced) of up to 5% of the value, when people most need the money.

That tax your lifetimes savings at 82% of your pension pot, when you reach 75, if you wish to leave it to your relatives.

That imposes a Prime Minister on the Nation, that has never had a mandate to rule.





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RANT Part 2



That allows people trafficking for prostitution.

That allows gun crime as part of the Yardie drug coulture.

That fails to have a prison build to cope with these forseeable circumstances.



and I will show you..........

Rivers of blood...........Enoch Powell

Mass emigration.

A Nation destroyed.



With sincere appologies to Phylray and Hattikins, honourable people who uphold standards

that we should all strive to achieve.



Ladies and Gentlemen......I give you The Right Honourables Tony Blair and Gordon Brown

not to mention The Prince Of Darkness Peter Mandleson. Architects of NEW LABOUR.



Thank you for your attention....................RANT OVER......and you wionder why I drink!



wyn



newlad



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People have very short memories.What about the lowest inflation we have experienced for years.The lowest unemployment.The biliions that has been spent on hospitals.The lowest mortgage rates.Take off the blinkers and think how good we have had it for the last 15 years.Of course things are going to be hard.Time to tighten our belts stop whingeing and get on with it.See you on the picket line lol,

Paul.



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Paul,



It wasnt low inflation....People were living off borrowed money.



It wasnt low unemployment, Government jobs that cost more to create, than revenue generated.



Hospitals....PFI DEBT...The Tories will be paying for these for the next 30 years.



110% mortgages.........ask Lehman Brothers, Bradford and Bingley, Northern Rock



Oh I forgot Paul you are from Hull...Home of John Prescott Deputy Prime Minister......



now what was he doing while Westminster was burning?



Now Paul this is a public forum........but what Prescott was doing to his secretary ( a married woman) the rest of his honourable colleagues were doing similar, to This Great British Nation.



I will buy you that Efes when we meet and we will discuss it. I will bring the black pudding.



You will need its strengthening qualities, when the truth sets in.



wyn







Lemtich



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Its a bit like Theoden, King of Rohan peering over the parapet at Helms Deep at the huge army of murderous orcs and muttering,



"How did it come to this?"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkx6_qvwemE



Lem



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Hi Lem,



I just love your humour! Never let reality distort your views of life!



I prefer Efes!



wyn



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Got to say wyn you have most spot on in your last two posts.



People just cannot see how the last 11 years of Labour government have lead to this disaster. Borrow, Borrow, Borrow!!! The UK will be paying for next 30 years and by then will have sunk to the 4th world power I mentioned earlier.



As for Chief Steward Prescott or 2 Jags!!!! There is a small story from a visit to Hull. He made a good show of getting on a train in Hull for return to London. At Brough Station the train was stopped and he got in his Jag for rest of journey!!!! Being a small station the powers in charge thought the press would not notice!!!! Shows the mentallity.



Right now I wish I could remember the quote of the great Enoch Powell where the quote you use above came from. Having read his autobiog. right now I feel daft, but that quote was part of one sentence in a long speach and as usual with quotes is always taken out of context.



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CIH.



I know what you are trying to recall, but for PC reasons I cannot repeat it on this board.



How times have changed!



wyn





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Please don,t feel you need to apologise to me Wyn, we are all entitled to our own opinions and I do understand some of your frustration although I may not always agree with your way of thinking, it wouldn,t do for us all to be the same.

As for the state of the UK, I just feel that through good times or bad we should all show respect and consideration for each other in every way possible, I,m sure if people felt better about the society that we live in we would be better able to cope with the present crisis and even see a light at the end of the tunnel.

I may be living in a dream world but wouldn,t it be nice if we could treat each other as we would like to be treated ourselves, and bring up future generations the same by setting the boundaries and caring enough about the children to enforce them. If we don,t set out rules to bring out the best in our young ones then how do they know we care about them and what example are we setting. Off my soapbox now.



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Hattikins,



I remain Mam, your obedient servant.



Sleep well,



wyn



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Saw this item today:



United Kingdom: A cancer patient given 11 months to live by doctors has been pronounced fit for work and has had his incapacity payment stopped by the Department for Work and Pensions.

56-year-old Keith Arden was called in for a medical shortly after he had a cancerous kidney removed and pronounced fit despite the fact that there were test results pending. He was told he was terminal by doctors just days later.

When he approached the Department for Work and Pensions he was informed that his appeal may not be decided for 9 months.



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No! Doyen,



These characters just leave you speechless!

Now a single mother with 5 children?



wyn



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hi doyan,

this was what happened to my dad.

he was about 50 years old when one morning he got out of bed, fell onto the floor and stayed that way for a month. until the doctors could straighten him up again.

his discs in his back had crumbled and he went on to have 2 ops, which still didn't sort him out.

during this time the dhss system doctors assessed him fit for work. his private surgeons went crazy and argued the point, which they won.

he won his case 2 1/2 years after becoming disabled. he lost his business and his house which he sold because he was unable to pay the mortgage.

he ended up in a council flat on a scummy estate.

he was disabled until his death age 60. he was diagnosed with cancer wrongly and given the wrong treatment on the nhs.

finally he died of tb, yes tb contracted in a uk nhs hospital.



that the wonderfull uk system for you!



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I'm sorry to hear that fire starter. That's absolutely shocking.



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hi no1 doyen ..My son -in-laws mother is facing the same dilema as your msg 31. Same age etc.had her sick money etc. stopped the dhss and told to find ajob. Like yourself it leaves me absolutely speechless.I find it utterly incredable in todays society that we have morons in places of responsibily that are allowed to make a decision of that magnitude......



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Political correctness gone mad. What about their Human Rights? Or does'nt it count if you are sick!



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No1Doyen ..It appears you dont have any human rights if you got no money to hire one of these expensive "human rights lawyers" so they done the next best thing.they have filled in the compulsary paperwork to take it to an arbitration tribunal to try to get the decision reversed. Waiting to see the outcome,should there be one...



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enoch powell had it spot on with his rivers of blood speech, pity its taken all this time to realise it.No wonder brits are leaving in droves replaced by people who can milk a system so no money i left for those who have paid all thier lives in the hope of having a good old age, sadly if they are ill its a lottery to where they can get treated if at all. You all have valid points and its made interesting reading we will never change it, like Doyeen I fear for the future generation my own grandkids included. My son was made redundant yesterday and its been hard to convience him that it not his fault he is a victim of what is happening worldwide. Lilli



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Lilli.



I am really sorry to here about your son and the experiences of Coachie and Firestarter. It's dreadful.



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Sorry to hear that LILLI. Hope your Son finds something soon.



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I think this just about sms up the uk today...................





'It's like winning the lottery': Jobless Afghan mother of seven gets £170,000 benefits and lives in £1million council house



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I think this just about sms up the uk today...................





'It's like winning the lottery': Jobless Afghan mother of seven gets £170,000 benefits and lives in £1million council house



A family living on benefits in a £1.2 million house in west London told today how they felt they had won the lottery.

Mother-of-seven Toorpakai Saindi gets £170,000 a year in benefits and the council pays the property's private landlord £12,500 a month to accommodate the family who fled Afghanistan seven years ago.

The house in Acton has seven bedrooms, two reception rooms, a dining room and two kitchens, as well as an extensive back garden.

Mrs Saindi's son, Jawad, 20, told the London Evening Standard: "If someone gave you a lottery ticket, would you leave it? No. You take what you get given.

"It's not that we wanted this big house - my mum is not happy because she has to clean all of it. The first day we moved in here we got lost because it was so big."



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"It's not that we wanted this big house - my mum is not happy because she has to clean all of it. The first day we moved in here we got lost because it was so big."



I suppose she'll want the council to provide her with a cleaner!



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It must be against her " human rights" to have to clean such a big house herself.



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Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse Gordon brings back the Prince of Darkness! Good old Mandy. Twice caught with his hand in the till but seemingly exempt from all the laws of the land in the UK. Last one out please switch off the light!



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Wish I had the problem of cleaning a big house. I can clean all of mine without moving my feet.



Christmas has come early for the BNP





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WE still contribute to the system. How much longer should we tolerate this abuse of our

human rights?



Worried, frightened, poor, disallusioned, saddened.



Wyn UK Resident.



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NIGE....Careful what you say some one might suggest it to the stupid council who are footing the bill....



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No 1 Doyen,



Having just reread your original posting, what the hell in Government makes adultery an indictable offence.



John Major and Edwina Curry.

Paddy Pantsdown and his sec.

Prescott and his sec.



Jees they are just so arrogant, with little regard for the debris that they leave behind.

IS LACK OF MORALITY, A PREREQUISITE FOR HOLDING HIGH OFFICE ?

Little better than animals in my opinion. Their poor spouses.

They should hold their heads in shame!!



wyn





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Wyn, excellent post. Couldn't agree more.



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For all you political animals I can thoroughly recommend Andrew Marr's book "A History of Modern Britain" While the book itself isn't specifically about the subjects we have discussed it is interesting to note how differently scandals were handled years ago. Political failure and sex scandals ALWAYS resulted in the people concerned "falling on their swords" Now scandal doesn't seem to end a persons career as much as enhances it. Maybe this moral malaise is all part of the "Personality Culture" we have nowadays? Being famous seems to outweigh being moral and a worthwile citizen.



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Oilman,



I am an avid fan of Private Eye.



A wonderful publication for a person of good humour, who has little regard for the sensibilities

of the modern politician A great publication for the seeker of truth. £29 per annum. An

absolute bargain.



wyn



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I'm a fan myself. Anybody who wants to loan the aforementioned book just ask!



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Oilman,



Be careful! Some of these wingeing brits might be forced to smile, if they saw more reality, and less spin. Welcome aboard!



wyn



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Maybe that is also a modern malaise? You know presentation over content. Can you imagine Clem Attlee, widely considered by political experts to have been our best ever Prime Minister, operating in today's image obsessed media?



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Oilman,



Our Supreme Leader has total control of the media. Now that is what I call a politician!



He has no need to be appointed by a majority vote. A divine right? Give me strength!



wyn



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There's and old political maxim "He who controls the media controls the country". Blair did it by getting The Sun newspaper [?] onside and Berlusconi and Sarkozy did it in Italy and France respectively. It has never been more true than now. I am so depressed about all this I think I'm going to have a surfeit of something strong to overcome my grief but before I do I leave you with this thought. It is curious world we live in when we can put a man on the moon but can't manage to get one on top of Ann Widdacombe!



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Oilman,



I bow in respect to your superior humour. Enjoy whatever it takes to make another tomorrow bearable.



Cheers



wyn



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Thank you and may I say how much I have enjoyed our verbal intercourse!!!!



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Oilman,



Likewise old boy. Intercourse? Never felt a thing. Must be my age!



wyn



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oilman - Ann Wideacombe - perish the thought.



Wyn - great second sentance.



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Cyprus 44



Wonderful site for people of slackened wit. A pleasure to post!



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Wynyardman: "IS LACK OF MORALITY, A PREREQUISITE FOR HOLDING HIGH OFFICE ?"



Is lack of morality acceptable anywhere?



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Pvt Pike,



Message 62. Welcome aboard!



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Our so called leaders lack virtue and our society lacks morality. Morals are only created by society, religion and our own conscience, that’s why the lack of morals in our society has created more psychopaths, paedophiles, incited racism, terrorism, and bigotry. All this is attributable to lack of morality and ethics.



Just my opinion.



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No1Doyen,



Absolutely! A handshake, and my word is my bond, is the era that we were bought up in.



Now these attributes are of no value to society, and people that hold them sacred, subject to



ridicule. Then we wonder while the world is such a mess.! Got any good jokes?



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Just for you Wyn.



An Irish girl who had not seen her parents for over five years came home unexpectedly one day. No sooner has she set foot inside the house than her father rounded on her angrily: "Mother of God, Roisin! Where have you been all this time? Look at the state of you, girl! You're wearing lipstick and that skirt barely covers your bottom! You shamless ingrate! You left us without a word on your sixteenth birthday and we've not had so much as a line from you in five years. Why didn't you call? Do you have any idea what you've put your poor Mam through?!"



Roisin started crying and sobbed: "Oh da...I fell in with a bad crowd...sniff...started sleeping around...took drugs...sniff...and then I became a prostitute..."

"Holy Mary!" shouted her father. "What did you say? A PROSTITUTE!? You evil little sinner! You're a disgrace to this family—I don't ever want to see your face again!"



"OK, Da," said Roisin, dying her eyes on an expensive, silk handkerchief. "I only came b



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"OK, Da," said Roisin, dying her eyes on an expensive, silk handkerchief. "I only came back to give Mum this fur coat, the title deeds to a ten-bedroomed villa in Spain and a savings account certificate for five million Euros. For my little brother, Sean...I got this gold Rolex, and for you, dearest Da—the 'S' type Jag that's parked outside—plus lifetime membership to the Ballymurphy Golf Club...(takes a deep breath)...and an invitation for you all to spend New Years' Eve with me on board my new yacht on the French Riviera, and—"

Her Father interrupted and asked: "What was it you said you had become again?"

His daughter started crying again and sobbed: "Sniff...a dirty little slut, Da...sniff...a shameless harlot who sells her body for money...a—a PROSTITUTE!"

Oh! Sweet Bejeesus! The Lord be praised!" exclaimed her father, clasping her to his bosom. "You scared me half to death, girl! I thought you said 'a Protestant.' Come here and give your Da a kiss!"



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Thats a cracker No1 Doyen.....Its the way you tell em!



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I know the UK economy is dreadful but can anyone tell me if the weather is going to be the same this weekend. I am coming back to photograph wolves!



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Wolves! Are they playing in the TRNC this week-end?



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Ha Ha, Doyen!



I am actually going back to the UK (from the TRNC) and was wondering what the weather was like. I don't trust weather forecasters and would rather have the opnion of a local. LOL