KULAKSIZ 5 there was an incident at the site this afternoon

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
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Message Posted:
07/04/2011 18:36

Pauline will write about the incident later on NCFP but it is totally true that there was an incident that necessitated the son one of the owners who is house sitting his mother's house (mother has multiple sclerosis and to ill to be here) bit ccomplicated. This is totally kosher AJ so dont go closing the thread

just yet. One f our legal team also attended the Police Station. K5 are in the High Court again tomorrow.

Pauline will be there as one of the Petitioners. Makes a chnage for the Bank not to act in darkness.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
07/04/2011 18:50

So he was right, This is just so awful, is there no depth that they will go to. My heart is in peices for the poor lady. If only the world could hear this story x

AlsancakJack



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Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
07/04/2011 19:16

gwhiz



First of all if you make a posting which appears to be nothing more than rumor then at least substantiate it in the same posting. There are far too many 'first time' posters that 'post and run'.

Secondly It would have been more sensible to post on the existing thread. Having multiple threads on the Kulaksiz 5 will result in some of them being deleted.

Pauline, it is your call. Which thread do you want left intact.

philbailey


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Message Posted:
07/04/2011 19:16

Nice apology

Marion


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Message Posted:
07/04/2011 19:19

sorry Polly. Do you think that wasbecauyse of the meeting today t support the government and tha certain peiople were showing who is wo. But can you tell us what actually happened, and I think I know to whom.

Is there no end to injustic?

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
07/04/2011 19:21

I have deleted a post here and banned the member for two weeks, reason stated here: http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/show-member.asp?member=yenibob

ismet

PS: if anybody has any comments please start a new thread or e.mail direct to me but please do not hijack this important thread.

gwhiz


Joined: 07/04/2011
Posts: 26

Message Posted:
07/04/2011 20:03

aj ther was nothing in the original thread to sugest it was a rumour.



The seige of Kulaksiz 5 goes on

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
07/04/2011 20:05

Sorry Marion, no I do not think HBPG meeting had anything to do with it. It is just ongoing and continuous

intimidation. I have sent my blog in to NCFP now. Could have been baba Kader himself the owner of Akfinans Bank this time, but cannot be sure, read the blog and you will understand.



CORCHIDACTUS watch is on again. There is a definite sign of swelling in the bud.



AJ leave this thread on please.



If anyone wants to support us tomorrow at Lefkosa High Court, come along about 10.45 a.m.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
07/04/2011 20:08

I'm afraid I'm with AJ here, although in hindsight he made a mistake in closing the thread before gwhiz had a chance to say who had given them the information, as he said, too many rumours have been started by newcomers and he couldn't be sure if this was one.

malsancak


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Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
07/04/2011 20:21

full story at http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com/2011/04/07/akfinans-bank-padlocks-another-kulaksiz-5-absentee-owners-property/

gwhiz


Joined: 07/04/2011
Posts: 26

Message Posted:
07/04/2011 20:23

mal you are wrong http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/60389.asp Message 9 aj closed it on Message 11



no problem he hade a mistake

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
07/04/2011 20:29

gwhiz, not your fault, but you merely said "one of the Kulaksiz residents" and that's a bit difficult to check unless you know which one.

pollymarples


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Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
07/04/2011 20:37

gwhiz please dn't be upset. Today Pauline wasn't around at the time wehn iut happened but if I had seen your thread before it was closed I would have confirmed it.



NOne of the niceties like a Court order for Akfinans and then Lord Maginnis wont let the Foreign Minister be questioned about Property issues because K5 is sub judice, what a crock!!

spider


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Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
07/04/2011 21:28

This so very upsetting Pauline and all the others our thoughts are with you all.







Spider,X

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
07/04/2011 21:57

Jeaz even in London their lips are sealed. unbeleivable. Thank you gwhiz for alerting us again to this awful situation. Only wish we had a voice x

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
07/04/2011 22:06

How can this bank "AKFINANS" be allowed to continue harassing decent elderly people?



Why has our House of Lords complied with Lord Maginnis and not allowed the TRNC Foreign Minister to be questioned about property issues?



Yes Pauline it is a crock, and for what?



The TRNC Government must answer the victims of their injustice! because we won't go away!



Upsetting spider, that is an understatement! thousands of victims! and believe me I'm not exaggerating, as some would have you believe!



How much longer can this corruption go on?

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
07/04/2011 22:11

Hi TRNC forever it would seem, I just cant take all this in today. so sad. x

Dreamydiver



Joined: 30/08/2010
Posts: 306

Message Posted:
08/04/2011 09:21

Apologies for not fully understanding the 'legalities' (for want of a polite word) of this horrendous situation.



For whatever reason it would appear to those affected and those who could possibly be affected in a similiar way in the future that the Bank(s) are corrupt / non transparent.

However, I think we can all agrees that big businesses in any country employ 'clever' people to find tax loops / ways of manipulating contracts etc to best suit their purpose.



What I would like to know / understand a little better, is what do Mr and Mrs 'TC' Average think about the situation?

Does the average TC feel that 'outsiders' / foreigners' are being badly treated?

Are they protesting on the behalf of people who have brought money into their country?



I just don't understand how this can appear to be 'accepted' by those not immediately affected.



Kulaksiz 5 ...may justice come soon.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
08/04/2011 09:32

only rarely does the story of these property scams reach Turkish-language newspapers. For organisations like Akfinans Bank, when these stories do appear they are more worried than when they appear in English. That is why the bank attempted to impose a Kulaksiz 5 news blackout recently. This is also why polymarples' current Cyprus 44 ban is so worrying and, in her mind, suspicious

Dreamydiver



Joined: 30/08/2010
Posts: 306

Message Posted:
08/04/2011 10:19

But when the news is available in either English or Turkish how do TC react? Are they supportive?

Would it carry more 'weight' if they too were asking pertinent questions of the banks?

stellasstar1



Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 1519

Message Posted:
08/04/2011 12:31

Most Cypriots I know, all seem to have their own problems, without worrying about ours. Also I don't thnk it goes in their papers.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
08/04/2011 15:50

as Pauline is currently banned from posting on Cyprus 44 I'll direct members to the account of her court appearance & an update of the padlocking incident at http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com/2011/04/08/akfinans-bank-v-kulaksiz-5-court-and-padlock-update/

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
08/04/2011 20:34

since pollymarple is now banned somewhat bizarrely. I am the new version. Don't worry AJ. Ismet recommended I take a new membership, so here it is, the new streamline version. No attempt to mislead or be a multiple member - pollymarples will not be returning, she knows when she isn't wanted



No, I do not belive I put the 't' in tyahoo because if I had the verification process would not have let me in.



Court was ordeal enough and I really could have done without this. he removing of the padlock on the absentee owner's villa was also very positive.



Will keep you all posted, unless of course anothere reason arises to ban me.

Tango1


Joined: 19/02/2011
Posts: 1151

Message Posted:
08/04/2011 20:45

Whenever I have mentioned ANY problem that we have had (notwithstanding this particular case) the average Mr & Mrs TC go absolutely blank. They know virtually nothing of what happens to ex-pats/foreigners whether it be legal, Governmental or planning. When I have talked about Permission to Purchase, they don't understand it, inability to obtain Kocan they don't realise, and when you discuss obtaining a Kocan of property on to our land, they are completely baffled. Virtually nothing is published in their papers and if it was, frankly I don't believe they would particularly care.



Tango1

parkes82uk


Joined: 22/10/2010
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
08/04/2011 22:22

Surely Mr & Mrs average TC can have access to this forum?

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
08/04/2011 23:17

parkes82uk (mess 25)



Surely you realize Mr & Mrs average TC don't speak english?

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
09/04/2011 01:54

The Cypriots I guess have more pressing worries

misunderstood


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Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
09/04/2011 07:50

For whatever reason it is becoming increasingly difficult to engage the Turkish speaking press in any property related problem although the economic knock on effect of the loss of the building industry and tourism will impact enormously on all TC people hitting their income and their lifestyle. Maybe when it starts hitting them where it hurts most/ in their pockets/ they will sit up and take notice/

parkes82uk


Joined: 22/10/2010
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
09/04/2011 21:03

TRNCVictim no clearly I didn't realise that! But i do know the person who owns the Turkish press actually speaks perfect English, and he also owns the radio station.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
09/04/2011 22:01

parkes82uk (mess 29)



That was NOT the question you asked was it? you asked about Mr & Mrs average TC! not who owns the Turkish Press or radio station?

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
09/04/2011 22:07

Msg 29

speaks perfect English, (sic)

If only I could!



Richard

parkes82uk


Joined: 22/10/2010
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
10/04/2011 00:35

TRNCvictim I was just making a comment as people on this thread were saying the Turkish papers don' t print anything and that the average TC don' t know about the problems going on with the Brits I took that as meaning they think they don't speak English.

Marion


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Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
10/04/2011 00:42

YENI dUZEN often carries property news (if informed), but just as a comment, I don't think many residents of U.K realise the problems for foreigners owning property. years ago some 'foreigners' wanted to buy our house but ultimately discovered that they were not allowed to. That was an eye opener for me, because being British I had no idea of restrictions imposed on immigrants, and of course I learned even more when I was interested in purchasing elsewhere in the world. the locals would not know because it does not impact on their lives. Maybe we are all the same in that respect.

parkes82uk


Joined: 22/10/2010
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
10/04/2011 00:47

Marion, I think you are probably right. X

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
10/04/2011 07:50

Those that do know are very supportive, only rarely have I had a 'serves you righ' from a Turkish Cypriot.



There are many Turkish Cyps in the U.K. and we really do have their support big time. However, as I understand it, they do not get to vote, now that would really help us.



I still exercise my right to a postal vote in the U.K. and my M.P has taken up the matter with the Foreign office,

not the buying here, they have no sympathy, but pushing around and intimidation of British pensioners, they are concerned about that.

Harvey


Joined: 01/10/2007
Posts: 40

Message Posted:
10/04/2011 10:38

I have to say that KIBRIS Gazetti were very helpful and published the story of Alpan Uz failing to deliver houses on 5 sites and yet collecting £3 million towards his 'new airline. Kibris published the story and the fact that Alpan Uz went to court on several occasions to get an injunction to stop them publishing. Alpan Uz obviously thought that it would have some impact on his friends and relatives otherwise he would not have bothered trying to silence Kibris with an injunction.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
10/04/2011 11:37

Pauline Read asks if it is time to set up a charity for TRNC property victims, perhaps publishing the details in Turkish as well as the English media. Read more on http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com/2011/04/10/is-it-time-to-set-up-a-charity-for-trnc-property-victims/

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
10/04/2011 17:38

Hopefully the government will step in to prevent the K5 evictions

misunderstood


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Message Posted:
10/04/2011 20:41

Oh Malcolm you are an optimist. The help they want is one sided, we help them and they let Akfinans help themselves. They think it is fair, who are we to question.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
12/04/2011 17:37

Pauline's article on NCFP points out that Akfinan Bank stands to make a quick £1m profit from K5 pensioners' savings which they spent a life time earning - read more at http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com/2011/04/12/akfinan-banks-1000000-quick-profit-comes-for-pensioners-lifetime-of-work/

misunderstood


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Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
12/04/2011 17:46

One week today Kulakszi 5 wil have yet another day in Court. I wonder if there will be any more incidents between then and now. For the sanity of the residents of Kulaksiz 5, I sincerely hope not. How much more can these people endure? Lets hope the CORCHIDACTUS never blooms.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
12/04/2011 21:26

misunderstood (mess 41)



Yet another court hearing! how many more will you all have to endure? the CORCHIDACTUS must never be allowed to bloom, we all have to get our scissors out! it's like the Japanese Bind Weed, it grows through cement! and you have to have a certificate to say it's eradicated!

misunderstood


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Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
13/04/2011 06:32

April 19th Girne District Court, supporters welcome.

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
24/04/2011 19:06

How can one join the Facebook Group 'North Cyprus Property Hell' ?



I've looked at the http://www.kulaksiz5.com website but can't find a link to the Facebook group it asks people to join nor can I find it on Facebook.



Has Facebook taken it down?

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
24/04/2011 19:39

Hector, Another member of K5 has his son doing the website. I know of no extra facebook page. YOu can be my friend on facebook (Pauline Read ) and find out plenty. there is a facebook page that has been there since the Auction Google facebook Shame on Akfinans Bank, it is regularly updated. Then of course

NCFP AND 3Cypursforum. I will also continue to updat on C44.

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
29/04/2011 19:02

Pauline

Can you give me a clue as to which Pauline Read you are on Facebook please?