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Dutch_Cactus

Joined: 12/04/2011 Posts: 26
Message Posted: 15/04/2011 20:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 10 in Discussion |
| Christianity as antiquity.-- When we hear the ancient bells growling on a Sunday morning we ask ourselves: Is it really possible! This, for a jew, crucified two thousand years ago, who said he was God's son? The proof of such a claim is lacking. Certainly the Christian religion is an antiquity projected into our times from remote prehistory; and the fact that the claim is believed - whereas one is otherwise so strict in examining pretensions - is perhaps the most ancient piece of this heritage. A god who begets children with a mortal woman; a sage who bids men work no more, have no more courts, but look for the signs of the impending end of the world; a justice that accepts the innocent as a vicarious sacrifice; someone who orders his disciples to drink his blood; prayers for miraculous interventions; sins perpetrated against a god, atoned for by a god; fear of a beyond to which death is the portal; (more) |
Dutch_Cactus

Joined: 12/04/2011 Posts: 26
Message Posted: 15/04/2011 20:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 10 in Discussion |
| (continued) the form of the cross as a symbol in a time that no longer knows the function and ignominy of the cross -- how ghoulishly all this touches us, as if from the tomb of a primeval past! Can one believe that such things are still believed? from Nietzsche's Human, all too Human, s. 405, R.J. Hollingdale transl. |
Clarissa2

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Message Posted: 15/04/2011 21:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 10 in Discussion |
| Re : Msgs 1&2, DC, may I ask you ( out of interest): do you read Nietzsche in German? |
Brinsley

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Message Posted: 15/04/2011 21:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 10 in Discussion |
| Msg 3 It's not DC, he hates double ID's and wouldn't lower himself Mien Kampf! Richard |
Brinsley

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Message Posted: 15/04/2011 21:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 10 in Discussion |
| Sorry, should read 'Mein'. Richard |
Dutch_Cactus

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Message Posted: 15/04/2011 21:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 10 in Discussion |
| Genau, Herr Brinsley. |
Clarissa2

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Message Posted: 15/04/2011 21:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 10 in Discussion |
| Re : Msg 6, |
renelapin


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Message Posted: 15/04/2011 21:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 10 in Discussion |
| Thanks God I'm an atheist. Rene |
Clarissa2

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Message Posted: 15/04/2011 21:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 10 in Discussion |
| Re : Msg 8, Genau, Rene! |
denizen


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Message Posted: 17/04/2011 21:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 10 in Discussion |
| It's not DC, he hates double ID's and wouldn't lower himself Mien Kampf! and if you believe that, Richard, do ya wanna buy a bridge. |
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