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northumbrian


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26/04/2011 17:43

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Looking for a 1HP Single Phase submersible well pump by a reputable manufacturer such as Lowara.

Can anyome suggest supplier in Kyrenia area please?



Tenakoutou



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26/04/2011 20:30

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Be very careful! I bought two JET 1HP submersible [well] pumps - the first from a small shop in Girne, the second from Genc [pronounced Gench] opposite Lemar.Karaolanoglu. I paid 394.99TL for the second one. The manager gave me a year's guarantee. being winter, I only used the pump four times and it burned out. When, after three months, I took it back to Genc, there was a new manager who refused to honour the guarantee, telling me that they don't give a warranty for anything made in China. There was an identical looking Italian pump costing 1200TL - they know what they can do with that! Incidentally, these cylinder pumps are irrepairable.



You've posed a difficult question - in TRNC it seems there is only Italian, or Chinese - after several bad experiences with both, I trust neither.



Try 'Spanias' in the South - they'll get you any make you want. Personally, I'd go for 'Grundfoss' - high quality and long lasting.



northumbrian


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26/04/2011 20:50

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Cheers Tenakoutou for the warning. I named Lowara because they are Italian, and are trusted in the industry - easy to maintain as they strip down and spare parts are readily available, much the same as Grundfos.



luem1


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27/04/2011 00:39

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There's a shop on the main road in Lapta. Coming from Girne it's on the right hand side. Look out for a new block of 4 shops with a big eagle on a perch in front of the last shop in the block. The pump shop is at the right hand of the block.



negativenick


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27/04/2011 08:36

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surely best to go to the south ?? - they sell then in home centre (or what ever its called) - quaity likely to be better and proper guarantee.........



the TC shopkeepers do themselves no favours pulling strokes lke this...........



birdman



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27/04/2011 22:47

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Ref Message 4



This is an excellent pump shop that even repairs pumps in their underground workshop. They repaired my "well-pump" 6 years ago,( as it was not working,) and I only use well water,so it has taken some hard wear over the last six years. It is still going strong. This pump was in the existing well when I brought the land so I have no idea how old it was then even.



Tenakoutou



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28/04/2011 08:53

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Now, being unable to source a new cylindrical submersible pump in TRNC for anywhere near a reasonable price, I have hung a 4 metre length of galv. pipe [with check valve] on a spare [Chinese] centrifugal pump I had and lowered it down the well. It seems to be working OK - less pressure, but that's not so important. The only downside is that I have to raise, or lower, this pump, according to the water level in the well. This is necessary because the lifting capacity of a centrifugal is much less - about 6 metres max., I think. However, this is a much cheaper option!



Having already spent over a thousand TL on the other two Chinese submersibles, I'm not going to risk buying [1200+ TL] an Italian exact lookalike!



By the way, according to info. from 'Alibaba' trading, the TRNC importers buy these 'JET' cylindrical pumps ex factory for $39 and retail them here for 400TL - good business, if you can get it!



birdman



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28/04/2011 09:39

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I forgot to inform you that my well is 72 foot deep and contains approximately 100 tons of fresh drinking water.

It has a large cave at that depth and also a large cave it 45 feet, both of which supply the well. The submersible pump (cylindrical) is at approx. 65 feet down so has a lot of pressure required to pump the water up to villa level.



martinD41


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28/04/2011 14:33

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Ten, why not put another check valve half way up the pipe,thus reducing the "LIFT" Sort of step tube effect...



martinD41


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28/04/2011 15:07

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Sorry Ten ,should have said reduce the pipe diameter by Half below the MID check valve thus reducing the weight of the water column,and increasing lift capacity ...



kibsolar


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28/04/2011 15:48

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Hi northumbrian Barry... i know where the Lowara shop is... nice guy, mustafa. he also offers booster pupms all this kind of good quality. please contact me info@kibsolar.com



Tenakoutou



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Thanks for the tips/ideas, Martin - but isn't the diameter of the bore pipe only relative - 6 metres being the max. a centrifugal pump can pull? Even if you put in a check-valve halfway, the pump is still trying to suck from the same depth? It would be great if you can tell me I've got it wrong! I haven't had too much experience with centrifugals sucking from depth.



martinD41


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28/04/2011 21:51

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Ten , if you reduce the weight of the water column ,the pump may not produce the volume of water but it will "Lift " from a greater depth.Hope this helps my old cobba ....



Tenakoutou



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29/04/2011 09:45

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I will defo try it, Sport - however, this is what I have always thought to be fact: Maximum suction lift — The height (approx. 25') that water can be lifted by a centrifugal pump in actual conditions, taking into consideration altitude, friction loss, temperature, suspended particles, and the inability to create a perfect vacuum. The 25' suction lift is attainable for cold water (60°F) at sea level. Suction lift diminishes as elevation increases, due to the reduction in atmospheric pressure. In addition, suction lift decreases as the water temperature increases since warm water contains more entrained air.



martinD41


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Simple experiment Ten,place a bowl of water on the floor,cut a piece of garden hose to 3ft.and join some drinking straws together until 3ft long.....now see which is easiest to suck water from the bowl ... Air pressure surrounding the tube is what forces the water to rise,the less the weight of water ,the higher it will rise



Tenakoutou



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29/04/2011 10:06

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I can appreciate your point without physically having to make the experiment - cheers, Martin!



I have my own 'golden rule' when attempting to give people advice: if I can't dazzle them with brilliance, I just try to baffle them with bullsh1t!!!



martinD41


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29/04/2011 10:16

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Ten....Or you could try fitting a "Venturi" .but 28ft will be your limit ...........Have a lovely day..



Tenakoutou



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29/04/2011 10:18

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Ditto, Martin!



yrys88


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29/04/2011 16:57

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Hi All



Water pumps are an important part of our lives in North Cyprus, but unfortunately, its really hard to find good quality pumps on the market. They either make too much noise, consume too much electricity or stop working after a year!



We sell high quality HITACHI water pumps. We are the Official distributers in North Cyprus.

Pls check http://www.hitachi.ae/products/consumer/wheretobuy/dealersshops.html Under North Cyprus.



These pumps are absolutely amazing, the features are too many to list.

I can send a brochure to anyone interested or you can view the models on the HITACHI website:

http://hitachiconsumer.com.my/index.php/water-pump



Thanks

Yen

TECHMAR

yrtrnc@yahoo.co.uk

0392 8155441



martinD41


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