Patara City questions

glw215


Joined: 02/04/2008
Posts: 178

Message Posted:
27/04/2011 23:44

Can anyone please update me on the situation with the indoor swimming pool on Patara, is it being refurbished or closed down. Also have Ozyalcin really paid off the Greek Cypriot owner and if so can foreigners still get Kocan/Title deeds.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
28/04/2011 00:01

The indoor pool has closed.

Ozyalcin did pay off the original GC landowner

Yes you can get your title deeds.

glw215


Joined: 02/04/2008
Posts: 178

Message Posted:
28/04/2011 00:24

Many thanks for your reply No1Doyen. Can you please tell me, if you know, what is happening with the indoor pool.

Chris and Sue


Joined: 07/08/2008
Posts: 272

Message Posted:
28/04/2011 07:06

Hi



The indoor pool is part of the gym and has been filled in so the gym can expand. Shame really as I for one would have used it regularly.



When we bought our penthouse off plan we were under the impression that we would be able to use the pool without joining the gym.....not so!



Sue

glw215


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Posts: 178

Message Posted:
28/04/2011 09:49

Thanks for the reply Chris and Sue. I am buying an apartment there so trying to find out all I can.

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
28/04/2011 11:08

It would be good to find out more about TC builders paying off GC property owners. Bravo to them for doing the right thing (if true) but how did they trace the owners and if they could do it why isn't everyone doing it?

Because the clear message here is anyone who doesn't pay the legal owner is occupying stolen property.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
28/04/2011 12:11

Why isn't everyon doing it ? Because of RoC laws that make doing so impossible in a legal manner. GC with pre 74 land in the North are prohibited from selling their land in the North.

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
28/04/2011 12:18

Good on Ozyalcin. No doubt they took good legal advice.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
28/04/2011 12:45

No doubt they have taken legal advice, but the facts remain it is an offence un RoC law for a GC with land in the North to sell that land, nor are any such 'sales' recongised by the RoC and neither can they be entered into land registry records in the South. Of course such a local law in the RoC is clearly against 'international law' and if and when it gets challenged in a court like the ECHR it wll almost certaily be ruled to be such, but it is the current law in the RoC.

The point here is that many would like to settle directly any dispute over land in the North with pre 74 owners but the biggest obstacle to doing so is not will of those here in the North, but the obstructions of the RoC in allowing them to do so. Not only does the RoC do nothing to help facilitate such solutions it actual deems them illegal and refuse to recognise such sales.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
28/04/2011 13:19

RoC law



"According to section 40 of Cap 224, no transfer of, or charge on, any immovable property will be valid unless registered or recorded in the District Lands Office and no transfer or voluntary charge affecting any immovable property shall be made in the District Lands Office by any person unless he is the registered owner of such property. Therefore, no written or oral transfer or recognition of any esate in land is valid unless it is completed by registration with the Land Registry."



http://www.neocleous.biz/en/download/ebook/neobook.pdf (page 659)

susiesusie


Joined: 09/03/2009
Posts: 337

Message Posted:
28/04/2011 15:30

Been informed by 2 apt owners who spoke to ozyalcins last week that you will have to wait for your individual deeds due to the change of use for the indoor swimming pool. Sounds strange to me as the actual building has not changed.

Best to contact ozyalcins for clarification.

Chris and Sue


Joined: 07/08/2008
Posts: 272

Message Posted:
28/04/2011 15:39

We have had our deeds for two years, not sure what the indoor pool has to do with it.



The gym & indoor pool is rented by an independent company nothing to do with Patara apartments. If all payments have been made to Ozyalcin then there is no reason not to get the deeds.



sue

susiesusie


Joined: 09/03/2009
Posts: 337

Message Posted:
29/04/2011 09:12

Chris and sue..... check your deeds. Sure you will find that they are shared deeds. Nothing wrong with that but not individual. As i said... Check with ozyalcins