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brian24001


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Just received a txt from Turkcell-

3G mobile internet connection now available-

60ytl/month for 4gig d/l limit (that's loads!)

or 70ytl/month unlimited

12 month packages, with free modem.

A winner for anyone here for various periods through the year who want to split the cost with neighbours etc in other holiday/part time occupied properties and share the modem.



Izzet



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It is very fast.



The speed can go up to 7 Mbit - that is more than 800 KB per second!



I think other service providers will get affected by this.



It was time for more competition..



dozza67


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do you need a telephone line for this?



brian24001


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dozz,

No, it uses a modem and a sim card, it's like having another mobile phone, but it only works on net, plugs into USB port, As Izzet says, this will be serious competition for net providers, and if Turkcell get their head screwed on and do a pay as you go version, as available in South Africa, they will clean up the market for part timers here.

I will be looking at this as an option instead of the house connection we have now.



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Its about time Extend Broadband had some competition, they have been on their own for too long and getting a bit lapse in their help lines, they might pull their fingers out and get back to you when you have a problem, hooray for Turkcell

Smithy



Teresa


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I got my modem today from the Girne Turkcell but they are only selling the yearly cards there. Was told to go to Lemar but they had sold out of the monthly unlimited card. Will go back later today and collect one.

Lets hope it is as good as they say!!!!



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Teresa - when you say "monthly unlimited card", does this mean that you can buy a card just for a one month period? This would be an advantage for me if I am there just one month in three.



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Teresa



I have a modem already but only a mobile payg phone sim. Is it a special sim that you can buy from Lemar & how much for a monthly unlimited. Will it work with my current modem?



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I think you will need a data sim card not an ordinary phone sim card



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This sounds too good to be true!



Just so I understand - you can get up to 7mb/s and unlimited downloads all for just 70ytl/month?



I'm with Sunny Cyprus now and I get something like 700 Kb/s for 40! (for those that are not technical 1 mb is made of 1000 kbs so this seems to be super quick!)



Do you think there will be problems with the connection like there is with wireless where it keeps cutting out all the time?



Teresa


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I went into the Girne Branch of Turkcell and got the modem together with a new sim card. Had to provide proof of id paid my 149YTL and left with my little box of tricks. Went to collected my top up card 70YTL which gives unlimited downloads and lasts for 1 month. The top up card works in the same way as a normal top up you scratch off the silver panel and then send a message with the numbers to Turkcell who then activate the card.

Once the sim has been activated you then put it into the modem and connect to the computer. Installation was very easy even for me!!!!!!. Once you have installed the modem you are connected. They even give you 100 free text messages which you can send from your computer as a bonus.

Speeds seem very very good so far and if they continue the same way i will be changing my main internet over as well.

This system would be very good for those coming over on holiday although i dont know how long the sim will last if you dont use it for an extended period.



Colliedog


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Been using it in the UK for months now. Great speed if you are in a 3g area as they haven't covered all areas yet. Dial up speed in slow areas.



You use it the same as PAYG. Buy a top up at any of the stores, enter the code number and within a minute you are up and running at broadband speed.



The modem is small not as big or heavy as your mobile. You just insert the SIM card which is the same ones as a phone (THEY ARE THE SAME WITH A PHONE NUMBER) And your away.



I think you may have slightly less MB for your s in NC but still really good value.



Will be taking my laptop out next month with the modem and give it a blast.



For 50 you can't go wrong and you only have to top up when you need to not every month. THE TOP UP ONLY LAST A MONTH after the date is up you need to purchase another, but if you don't nedd it then you don't have to buy another topup until you need to.



ces88


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I use it in UK too, definitely would recommend it as easy and convenient... plus your not connected via wires so can literally take it anywhere ( obviously within their coverage area)



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have to agree with ces88 we have been using the 3g set up here in trnc for 3 days took my laptop to a phone place in tin pan alley he loaded it on and we took it back to our apartment and we have been using it every day.paid for the one year and get the modem for free.very impressed so far.



Chicken Run


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Does anyone know what the connection speed is... 512k or higher?



batterboy58



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Would this modem work on netbook with Linux OS



Chicken Run


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So... does anyone know how fast the connection is. Basically... can you stream media. Anything above 512k would be ok for most things, but higher would be excellent. Everyone keeps banging on about how good it is... but how fst is it? Anyone... PLEASE????



Ta x



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Chicken Run



Read message 10.



Bob



Turbo


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How big is the modem?, I tried to find more info on the net , came up with nothing.



Chicken Run


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Sorry... I'm confused (easily done)!



Izzet says on message 2 that it's 800kb/s - but rosie says on message 10 that it's 7mb/s.



That's a huge difference... anyone know the exact figure?



Also... is it the same in Karsiyaka as it is in Girne? Or is it slower the further from Town that you get?



Thanks for all your help... I am currently with Extend and they are getting worse by the day!!!



brian24001


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Turbo,

if the modem is anything like the ones in South Africa (and they will all me made in China), its smaller than a mobile phone, some are also like the modem cards you plug in the side slots, with a small arial.

Heres the vodacom type:

http://www.cellucity.co.za/dataproducts/modems.htm

Here's another type (second one down the page):

http://www.3g.co.za/



These are available 'unlocked' to any network in SA for about 80 pounds so could use here/UK/anywhere with a local 3G sim.



Chicken run,

Speeds will vary hugely with area, signal strength, and how good the nearest phone transmitter is, if they claim 7m/sec (download only), which is easily achieved with 3G, in reality you will get about 2m/sec, or about 4 times faster than you will get here with a small dish ........ on a good day, but still a huge email is a fraction of a second. Best you will upload though will be about 1.5 - 2m/sec



brian24001


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here is the data card type:

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/8833216/3G_HSDPA_Data_Card_UNLOCKED_Option_GT_MAX_3_6_7_2_mbps_Ready.html



Chicken Run


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Thanks Brian, that's very helpful. I think I've made my mind up and I'm going to give it a go... bye bye Extend!!!! ;o)



Chicken Run


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Sorry Brian, one last thing... do you know if that is a dedicated connection? As they get more customers will the connection speed slow down like with Extend? I have a feeling that this wont be the case with 3G but I'm not sure.



Thanks mate



Chicken Run


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Any body else know the answer to my question above? Thanks



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Hi chicken run

i am using the 3G network here as i did in the UK and if it is any thing like the 3G network in the Uk then i suspect it will. i had same problem when i first bought it in the uk the connection and speed was great but then the system got overloaded and couldnt cope and i lost my connection altogether.

hope that wont happen here thought as im really happy with my new 3G.



brian24001


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CR,

Re: msg 25,

Sorry didn't check this thread for a day or so.

No 3G is dedicated, it's the same as the phone system, all people on the system share band width, so, one minute you could be flying, the next minute not.

But then, it's no different to the current wireless systems here that all connect through the same fibre optics to Turkey anyway, all the companies simply buy bandwidth, and try to use it as best they can to make a profit, and try not to overload to slow down speeds.

For example if a new ISP started, and they bought a certain band width, your speed would be really fast, as other customers join, it slows, so they buy a little more band (by now they know the average daily usage) and so it speeds up again more customers ............ etc etc.

We are with Extend, never had a problem, and the more people leave them, the faster we will get, however, if they loose too many customers, they will relinquish some band to save money.

Simple as that.

Hope this helps,

Brian



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A friend was using in our office yesterday opposite Altinkaya Hotel on Bellapais Road he was impressed with the speed of 3mb said it was much better than UK!



MajorieDawes


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Does one need to have residency to be able to buy this 3G service from Turkcell as I believe is the case with Pay Monthly contracts. As a regular visitor to TRNC I'd like to buy their 3G service and pay up front for a year. Is this possible even though I'm not a resident? Thanks.



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Ive heard of beingf asked to prove your identity by showing your passports but never that residency was required... there must be shed loads of people without residency who have phone contracts here...



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BTW I don't think there is 3G coverage in Esentepe yet....



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I noticed somewhere above someone was asking if you needed a new SIM card for data. The answer in theory is no. Any SIM card can be connected to voice and data (most are anyway). As long as your SIM card is activated for data then you should be able to put your normal mobile SIM into the USB modem, it only means you won't be able to make voice calls when using the net.

The only thing I can see causing me a problem is you won't be able to use an Internet Radio as you won't have a wireless router connection. At the moment the wireless router is connected 24/7 for a set fee which means I can have the radio on without any problems. If I was only using the USB modem the radio wouldn't work.

Karen



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Karen,



Maybe I have misunderstood your posting, but I am using the 3G modem, and I have the radio on in the background while I do other things. I can either listen on my laptop speakers, or I have a gizmo that I connect to the earphone socket which transfers the output to my HiFi system.



Ian



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Ian,



what is the gizmo that you have? did you get it in the TRNC ? if so where! roughly how much was it and is it easy to sort out, ( for someone who's not very good with gadgets and gizmos )



Cheers Tony



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An internet radio isn't played through either the computer or hi fi. Its an actual radio very similar to a DAB radio. It works on Wifi only (and electricity of course). You can have the radio anywhere in the house (or outside) and its just like a normal radio to look at. It means you don't have to tie up the computer as it streams on its own. You have access to thousands of channels which you can pre-set.

you can view one here

http://www.mrgadget.com.au/2008/01/asus-internet-radio-goodmorning-vietnam.html



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Tony



I bought mine in the UK from ebuyer, but they are readily available. They are quite inexpensive. You set the frequency to an unused one on your radio, turn both on and away you go. This is the one I use, but there are lots.



http://www.ebuyer.com/product/119513



Ian



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Hi Majorie Dawes

No residency is needed for the 3G - just money!



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Brian240001 - I must say I am not too familiar with this as my previous forays into mobile internet solutions did not impress me. I think your posts have covered most of the possible issues, thanks. Is this a viable alternative to the other ISP's such as Nethouse, Extend etc in the TRNC, apart from the download limitations ? Anything to stop you attaching a router and sharing that connection in all the normal ways ?



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Thanks for the info. I got one from Lemar today and am impressed with the speed. Despite the lack of English instructions, I worked out that in order to activate the voucher, it was necessary to text the voucher code to number 1111 using the supplied PC software. Anyone know how to get the messages that KKTCell's system sends back to be in English? Also, do you get a text to tell you when your current month has expired or do you need to keep a note of when you last used a voucher to remember to top up with a new one?



janjin



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Hi everyone.

Don't bite me for this as I'm the technical nervous sort.

My son told me that your mobile can be used as a modem.

Apparently a Modem is similar to a stripped down Mobile.

I will be using my mobile plugged up to the lap top, after getting in touch with my network provider.

If it don't work its gonna cost 350.00 (my son will fly in ha ha)



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Thanks Ian Ill get one sent over from the UK

Tony



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Hi, someone I know that already uses 3G here told me that you as long as you can get a signal on your phone you will get coverage on 3G, is this correct?



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rosieposie - as far as I know, and I am not that techy - but having asked myself - no you do not automatically get 3g - look at it as being a separate license. You have to buy it first! You would have to buy the 3G and either use it (it comes with a sim card with its own number and modem stick) in your computer, which is plug in and go either on monthly pay as you go or on contract. Or, you can buy one for your phone - all normal calls are on standard tariff and then you have to pay your fee for the 3g to get internet and email to the phone.

So, with that are problems in a way - the sim card will have its own number, so you would have to change your number, unless Turkcell have a way of re-routing your old number to the new one, to save telling all and sundry you have changed numbers, plus if you just bought the one 3g then you might want to use between phone and pc so may have to swap the sim around all the time, unless a usb cable can be used to channel signal through phone to pc?



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to continue......

you can however, get GPRS on most models of phone which enables internet on the phone - Turkcell peeps can do that for you if you are unsure. That however operates on the old 2g which is much slower.

With all these costs are mounted upon how much kb/ps you use and not how much time the phone spends uploading data.

I think I have got all that right, but certainly you don't just get 3G on your phone - you must pay for the priviledge!



Re the system being swamped with more users as it becomes more popular - Turkcell say they are not even operating at a quarter of its capacity and can expand as they go along - that needs some time to see if thats correct, but so far it is super-fast!



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NoNowt,

Re: Msg 39 - This is certainly an alternative to the established ISP's and hopefully will stay quick.

One of the failings with 'wifi' (not 3G or the dish connections) is it often drops out for a split second, and re-connects, if surfing, you don't even know it's happened, if on a VOIP phone, it will end the call. I haven't tried this 3G in NC yet but I am sure someone will have with a phone call. In theory it should not drop out, it should be as reliable as a phone line.

3G routers are already available, and if you get an unlocked one, no reason why it should not work on the Turkcell system.

However, remember, you can run the 3G modem on say your laptop, and wifi or blue tooth the connection to other PC's with that facility around the house simply by setting up the machine to allow other machines to share the connection, so you already effectively have a router anyway.



RP,

Yes, if you can get a phone signal, you will get 3G, uses the same transceivers.



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brian24001

are you sure about your PS - Turkcell have said to me today that if I want 3G for my phone then I have to buy it - it doens't come automatically as its a separate addition of service. I didn't buy it yet, as that would mean me having to keep swapping the sim from phone to pc, so instead I just set up GPRS on my phone for the mo until I figure out what to do.



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oh sorry!! Re-reading I now understand the question - if you have a phone signal would you be able to pick up 3G if you were to buy into it - sorry! The answer being yes of course!



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I meant would you be able to get in on your laptop, not on your phone. I understand that I have to buy it and get the privileges and a modem etc, I was just asking about the signal. I ask because I want to be sure that it will be better than using the wireless that I currently get from sunny cyprus that constantly cuts out, and that I will still be able to receive a signal living in Lapta. From the answers here I think that the answer is yes, as long as you can get a signal on your phone you will be able to get a signal on 3g on your laptop via the modem. Thanks x



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Hi rosieposie,

I hope you get a better answer than mine, but my 3 phone works out at the site and it has worked as the modem on my lap top in England.

So hopefully it will work as the modem for the laptop in the TRNC ??

It worked in England but is was an expensive 1.30 mins, so would have to amend my useage with provider.

JJ



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hi rosieposie

sorry - you should enquire with Turkcell has they have a list of all the masts near to your area and they can tell you about signal strength. I asked as I am up in the mountains and they told me where the nearest mast was. So, it should not be a problem as they have them everywhere, but there is no problem to check with them. They showed me on their system no probs.

However you are completely right, if you have a full strength signal on your phone then the 3G via the laptop should also have that strength.



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Would anybody please post the answers to these 2 questions:



(1) Which areas in the TRNC are covered by the Turkcell 3G network? I'm personally interested in Karsiyaka but I am sure they must have a list of areas they claim support in. As there has been a reference to Karsiyaka, I'd be further grateful if anyone with first hand knowledge would relate their experience in that area.



(2) I'm also interested to know which makes & models of USB modems are supported and sold for use with the Turkcell service.



Thanks on advance.



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-- IN advance!! --



Brian24---1, many thanks for your answers & I'm looking at the possibilities. I have another problem that you may be able to throw some light on: try as I might I couldn't set up a VPN from Karsiyaka to London. Eventually I verified using canyouseeme.org, that Nethouse were blocking certain ports required for VPN. I've tried without success so far to get an answer from them as to what's going on let alone a resolution. What chance of success if I use Turkcell's 3G service? [I've set up VPN's between home and office in the UK along with Asterisk Appliance Server for a shared telephone network, but no luck at all in the TRNC]



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Coverage Area:

http://www.kktcell.com/pages/1769.aspx



Also the dedicated website they have for 3G:

http://www.kktcell3g.com/



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Has anyone used this 3g in the esenteppe area. and if so how good is it.

Thanks Ronaldo



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Izzet - thank you very much for that but I have problems: the second URL doesn't give much detail and appears as if it's still being built, at least the English version; the first URL, how to get the English version? I don't know if I'm interpreting the info correctly: on one page there are 2 drop down windows where I can select Girne on the first and Karisyaka on the second & don't understand the 3rd column. Also Esentepe is mentioned - I thought Groucho said it's probably not available there?



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RP, Re: msg 49:

"From the answers here I think that the answer is yes, as long as you can get a signal on your phone you will be able to get a signal on 3g on your laptop via the modem"

- Yes

Click the link and select Lapta from the drop menu on the right

http://www.kktcell.com/pages/1769.aspx

Loads of places to connect in Lapta, you must be near one.



NoNowt, Re: msg 53:

The problem is that NH block all 'peer to peer' networking, so file sharing (torrent etc) or VPN is not possible. Obviously because if loads of people are downloading movies etc it ties up huge amounts of band width. I suspect they in turn pay for a limited bandwidth supply, and extra use would eat into profits.

Extend do not block p2p and I would be very surprised if the 3G system did but as I am not using it, I don't know for sure.

Perhaps someone on the 3G system can say if they have used any file sharing (usually used for music/movie downloading) or if the use a torrent program.



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Anyone can test whether port 1723 is blocked by going to http://canyouseeme.org and entering 1723 + click OK button. It'll state whether the port is blocked or not. I should be grateful for the answer to this. TIA.



I've tried to ring Turkcell and all I get is "All ops. busy - hold or call again" and then I tried to email them a questionnaire but the slot provided is too small to accommodate the text. Oh well, I've got probably 6 months in which to find the answers, so I'll just have to wait and see.



Thanks once again to Brian24001.



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I've checked this and it times out, but so do other common ports such as 25 and 80. If the service is anything like the mobile broadband offerings in the UK, it's won't be possible to get an inbound port connection because the IP address that the mobile operator gives you is an internal one to their network, and you are then mapped to a visible dynamic IP address.



I can confirm that outbound VPN works fine - L2TP, PPTP and IPSec all back to the UK are working fine for me.



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MajorieDawes, does that mean you can't download movies from bitorrents etc? Please excuse my stupidness on too technical stuff!



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I'm not 100% sure without trying it. I use Usenet to download movies and TV (particularly Easynews.com ) and haven't had any problem with that.



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Had 3g connected about 10 days now, great speed etc., problem I am having is skype, everything keeps freezing on screen and it keeps dropping out after about 20-30 seconds, anyone else having this problem, skype was no problem with other supplier prior to this,,thanks



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No problems with Skype. Torrents work well. Even though I am on the edge of reception area, so speed not as it should be. Tried from the car in the zone and boy was it fast.



Install instructions in English are here http://www.systemlogix.co.uk/turkcell-3g/turkcell-3g.html



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Would one of these provide internet connection for a Block of 6 apartments, or would it be too slow..perhaps 2 apartments?

whats your thoughts?



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Stewart,

Would work fine, but you would need a router to share a connection, and I don't think TCell are dioing a router version yet, but it must be iminent.

A normal dish connection and router could be wifi'd or cabled to other appts very easily, and the costs shared.

Provided you were not all on the VOIP at the same time, just for surfing, 4-6 appts could share a descent connection easily, it's only when downloading large files etc (if you ever did) that it would all get very slow.

Brian



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Does anyone have 3G in Catalkoy just beneath Savyon Village? Is it good or not?



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go into turkcell and tell them where you live.

they will look and tell you if it is possible or not.

we have a mast in the next village and full mobile reception but we cannot get 3g.



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Here is another option if you want to know if it will work for you.



http://www.systemlogix.co.uk/turkcell-3g/turkcell-3g.html



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From Thursday BBC will transmit programs live over the Internet. Does this mean you will be able to watch programs on your PC if you have a Turkcell 3g setup ? Is link fast enough ?



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Hi EssexOB,



I Haven't got 3G, but I don't think that speed would be a problem.

However, the BBC restrict usage to the UK for copyright reasons.

I have tried an IP anonymiser, but that didn't fool 'em...

brian24001 is probably a good person to ask - unless anyone out there has managed to watch BBC via the internet (apart from the news, of course!).



Regards,



Keith



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Speed will be ok, but if you are planning to use the system for a lot of streaming or downloading, I would have thought you will be better with the dish connection, much less likely to drop out.

If you subscribe to a proxy server in the UK (not expensive), you are effectively in the UK then and can connect to any 'UK only' service.

Hiding your IP is no good, that's the first thing the systems look for.



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brian24001 - How do they prevent access from other PC's on the network? What would prevent the use of a 3G capable router such as the Draytek Vigor 2800VG VPN ADSL 2/2 (or better) being deployed to do the routing?



Can you clarify the point about waiting for a network version from Turkcell, please ie if you know?



Am I right (I wonder) in thinking that all this is a programmed in restriction which they might remove once they have sufficient demand (customers) to warrant buying in the necessary bandwidth?



TIA



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NoNowt,

Take a look at the llink (4th para down)

http://www.draytek.co.uk/products/vigor2800.html

It says you can connect the 3G dongle via the USD (printer) port so I guess this one would work fine, but don't know which dongles Turkcell use, so check first.

This router is similar to ours we have for our phone system, except this one has even more features, impressive write ups.



Network version - there are 3G routers available elsewhere (South Africa where due to poor infrastructure 3G is big) that allow you to fit the sim in the router, then either connect to the router by LAN cable or wifi. I am just assuming they will eventually be available.



If they remove any services, they would [I beleive] have to be careful as I suspect that the majority of custoimers will be on a PAYG option, effectively cancel at the end of any month with no notice.

Cheers

Brian



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Having a signal is no guarantee of broadband speeds. If there is no broadband (3G) available, the system reverts to GPRS which is very very very slow.



This is the situation in Bogaz, despite Turkcell saying the masts were 3G enabled.



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Ref msg 71, how do we subscribe to a proxy server?



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For those lucky enough to get real 3G..........



http://www.bogaz.info/general-talk-about-anything/8139_turkcell_3g_wireless_modem.htm



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Vaughan,

Just google 'proxy server UK' (UK sites only) and you will find some

Contact the company first though to make sure you will have UK access if that's what you want.

Some proxies outside the UK affiliate to other proxies so do a little homework on it first as you may find a cheper proxy elsewhere (India is cheap) and connect to the UK that way, personally I would connect direct to UK if it's UK downloads or streaming that you want.

An easy one to start looking at is http://www.ukproxyserver.co.uk this would give you a UK IP address, and they have a direct link on their home page for you to look at UK TV ooptions.

They also have Sentanta sport for GBP7.99 a month.

Cheers

Brian



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NoNowt,

Take a look at Hilltop's link,

Apparently Turkcell are about to release a thingy to allow multiple PC's to attatch, though I am sure the range will be quite short.

Might allow people in appartments to connect through one dongle though and spread the cost.



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brian24001 - Thanks very much for your time and effort in providing the info that you have. However, my questions are more along the lines of:



Network Shared Internet Access

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(a) This is a generic problem/requirement.



(b) We already have a number of 3G suppliers in the UK (and elsewhere) and 3G routers (with integrated modems) for them are readily available. Turkcell's product SHOULD NOT vary that much from the main 3G broadband suppliers we have in the UK.



(c) If the router manufacturers know the variable parameters, which I think they do, then they can provide the user with the wherewithal to input those.



We are in an age of standardisation, so why is it necessary to wait for what sounds like a proprietory solution, which in all probably it isn't, to a generic problem? The point is that if I were to buy something for Turkcell especially and in a year or so they disappear or an alternative better supplier shows up, I'd be loathe to be forking out on



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another piece of hardware. My preferences are for Draytek as over the years they provide the best performing vpn terminated routers.



Sorry to dump all this on you, Brian. If it doesn't matter to you and you can't be bothered to research it, I fully understand - and it's not easy with Cypriot/Turkish companies. Do you know the answers or are you in the dark with this technology almost as much as I am esp. w.r.t. Turkcell ?



Finally & once again, thanks for all your input on the subject, much appreciated.



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oops: in all probably ==> in all probability



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NoNowt

I think what you are asking is about bringing the 3G router from UK to use in NC to save having multiple peices of equipment?

If the router is not locked to a network (as many mobiles are) then it shold work.

All a 3G modem is, is effectively a slightly modified mobile phone.

I am not pivy to particular Turkcell info, so regarding use/compatibility, I would be as much in the dark as you, and would suggest if you already have a 3G router in UK, just bring it and try it.

I am sure the 3G routers have specific provider codes - 'lock system' for want of a better phrase, and 'generic system' i.e unlocked to any network.

I haven't actually used one, and don't plan too.

It may well depend on whether you aquired your modem as a package and so cannot be used on other systems as UK stuff like this is often subsidised and they prevent open access.

I think trying to get any specific info from Tcell would be difficult, they would want you to buy theirs

Cheers

Brian



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brian24001 - thanks a lot. I am in complete agreement with what you say and the bottom line is the one in your post (they want you to buy theirs!).



I've found BroadbandBuyer a very helpful site whom I can ring up and ask to speak to one of their experts. As I said before I have a good 5-6 months to evaluate and await further developments. That should provide ample time for any "bad experiences" to unfold on this forum.



I also wonder how the other isp's over there will react to Tcell's offerings, especially Nethouse, whom I've found to be very reliable from my location.



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Hey everybody...Can someone help?



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Will this Router work with Turkcell 3G Modem's...?



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3G is NOT unlimited..................you hit 5.5gb in a day (which i admit is a lot) then the system automatically puts you down to 512kbs and then you have to call the nice lady on the helpdesk and whisper sweetly in her ear.........email her some choccies and flowers and she might give you your speed back !



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We are coming out on 16 March for 10 days, staying in Lapta and looking at long term rental property. Is the KKT 3g still working as it should? Is it still the preferred system for mobile internet using a laptop?



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My friends got one a couple of days ago and are thrilled with it. They said the speed was brilliant.



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Just got an E220 HSDPA 3 Internet Dongle (UNLOCKED) will this be good with the Turkcell 3 Service? also 3 are doing some good deals right now (in UK) on prepaid sims even have a 5gb per month sim at 15 per month will these sims work in TRNC?? coming over soon and just trying to get essential stuff sorted.



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