Landrover Freelander 2001. Good Mechanic Required!!!!

oddjob


Joined: 16/09/2008
Posts: 62

Message Posted:
15/10/2008 18:37

Hi,



We have a Landrover Freelander 2001 1.8 which has major problems. By all accounts we have been told the head has blown, plus other associated faults that occured at the same time that the head caused.



Some guy called a mechanic took the engine apart and has said that we need the head and other associated parts regrinded. Other than this we will need to get a replacement engine recon or used, either from this country or shipped in.



So therefore can anybody give us details of a quality mechanic who could do the job and give us a total price for supplying an engine. fitting it and sercicing the motor. Thanks a lot.



oddjob

oddjob


Joined: 16/09/2008
Posts: 62

Message Posted:
15/10/2008 23:12

Anyone Recomendations please??????

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
15/10/2008 23:24

I can only suggest you speak to Steve James at Borusan - Land Rover main dealer in Lefkosa.... 0392 22 52 722



It sounds mighty expensive... ouch.



Interested to hear how you get on as I've got a Freelander too.

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
16/10/2008 01:06

I am asuming this is a Diesel engine?.....What happened? Seized? Cam belt broke?.....I could rebuild it for you but not in TRNC.....wish I could help I dont have any facilities here in Cyprus yet!



nunu

ataturk


Joined: 09/09/2008
Posts: 712

Message Posted:
16/10/2008 07:31

Before you do anything let Mus hae a look at it, he is a BMW approed mechanic from London and if I am not mistaken your engine is made by BMW as well, he has fixed numerous jeeps for the estate agents who usually cant get it fixed at the main agents in Lefkosa. If the head needs to be skimmed it is not a big problem this is relatively eassy so dont get frightened off. His number is 0533848 6967.



He will be happy to look at the vehicle first and then give you a price.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
16/10/2008 08:27

BMW certainly were used as the source for engines in the models up to the new Freelander 2 which now has a 2.2 Peugeot Turbo Diesel..



However... the old dealer Ataturk is probably referring to was Cangar they were stripped of their status by Land Rover



It is now Borusan who certainly are good engineers... they don't employ anyone as an engineer who does not have a degree in engineering.. let alone a City and Guilds



The problem sounds like failing to replace the filter on the Turbo unit which should be done at main services... this is known to lead to these problems.



By all means speak to Mus.

ozankoys


Joined: 20/06/2008
Posts: 905

Message Posted:
16/10/2008 09:48

We often use Harmanji garage in the Turkish Quarter of Kyrenia they work out of tin sheds but always seem to do a good job.

As far as I know Cangar Motors are still doing repairs to Land Rovers but do not carry many parts, we have always sourced these from the Land Rover dealer on the South side in Nicosia who carry good stocks even for the odd sort of parts that we would not have expected them to have.

Luckily we have not needed anything doing since the new Agent opened this side but they are a very professional company & will have to maintain a good stock spares or get them from Turkey - how the price will compare to getting from the South I would not know.

berty



Joined: 11/01/2008
Posts: 216

Message Posted:
16/10/2008 12:04

The K series engine had some inherrent probs in those days

The engine's head-gasket was made from a steel core plate with silicon rubber beads to seal water and oil ways rather than the more traditional materials. However, the redesign of the cylinder block to enable the capacity to stretch to 1600 and 1800 cc resulted in a lack of stiffness. This allowed movement across the gasket face and subsequent gasket failure. The design of the cooling circuit was also less than optimum, allowing a hot engine to be suddenly flushed with cold water when the thermostat opened. This "thermal shock" put more stress across the gasket face. These factors were particularly severe in larger vehicles such as the Land Rover Freelander.



Due to the wish to make the engine as efficient as possible, the coolant capacity was smaller than would be expected in engines of this size. This enabled the engine to reach its optimum operating temperature quickly. However, the smaller coolant capacity did make the

berty



Joined: 11/01/2008
Posts: 216

Message Posted:
16/10/2008 12:06

engine vulnerable in the event of coolant leaks. This became more of a problem with the larger capacity engines, as the extra swept volume was achieved by eating into the water jacket, further reducing coolant capacity.



The Freelander problem was relieved to a certain extent by a special pressure release thermostat which, with the aid of a spring loaded valve, allowed a small amount of coolant to bypass the thermostat at high engine speeds regardless of engine temperature.



A modification made in an attempt to reduce the rate of gasket failure was to replace the plastic dowels with steel dowels in the cylinder block top face. This helps reduce the head movement relative to the cylinder block. The rubber sealing beads were also modified to give improved attachment to the gasket core plate.



More recently, Land Rover have released a reinforced MLS (Multi-Layer Steel) head gasket for the K-Series engines, which until mid-2005 were fitted to the 1800 cc petrol variants of their Free

berty



Joined: 11/01/2008
Posts: 216

Message Posted:
16/10/2008 12:07

A modified oil rail was also developed to be used in conjunction with the gasket to improve block stiffness. Time will tell as to whether the improved design will cure this fault of the K-Series engine, but many professionals and enthusiasts now recommend this new design over the standard gasket as fitted by MG-Rover. To date, the results appear to be good.



In the motor trade, most unmodified K-Series engines are expected to suffer head-gasket failure at around 90,000 miles. Water and oil mixing, resulting in the dip-stick being coated in a brown slush is the most common symptom, requiring significant effort to clean out before replacement.

berty



Joined: 11/01/2008
Posts: 216

Message Posted:
16/10/2008 12:08

sorry about the breaks in the info but governed by the limited characters

tarry67


Joined: 16/05/2008
Posts: 1053

Message Posted:
16/10/2008 13:12

I normally use Ziggy on the merit road in Alsancak.He speaks good English and will give you a quote. The new or recon engine and parts will come from the south side which is cheaper by far than here.

oddjob


Joined: 16/09/2008
Posts: 62

Message Posted:
18/10/2008 01:42

Thanks everybody for your replies.

oddjob


Joined: 16/09/2008
Posts: 62

Message Posted:
18/10/2008 17:14

Hi,



Does anybody know that if we had to import a recon engine or used engine from the South side or from UK, would we then be liable again to pay tax/duty on this engine even though we have already paid the appropriate duty on the vehicle when we first imported it from the uk 6 years ago.



As we would have to amend the log book offially and notify our insurance agents i presume, if we had a secondhand engine fitted, we would have a new engine number, so does anybody know how this would work as i yhink its too far gone now for the old engine to be skimmed. Thanks



oddjob

ataturk


Joined: 09/09/2008
Posts: 712

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 23:23

Oddjob who has told you that it is far too gone from what you have expalined it sound like it could only need skimming. I would definitely get a second opinion from Mus 0533848 6967

moonoverwater


Joined: 06/08/2008
Posts: 224

Message Posted:
20/10/2008 00:36

tam is my mechanic he has trained in the UK and is very good it may be good to give hi a call 0533 837 7229 Iskele area it maybe a long way from were you are but he maybe able to help .I have had many problem's in the past with so called mechanic and I have never found any one as good as tam

gillken


Joined: 25/05/2008
Posts: 521

Message Posted:
20/10/2008 23:46

Before you go laying out money on a head you need to price a short block which will consist of the basic block which is pistons bottom end and cylinder head.Comes with a warranty will have oil pump already in it.



The cost between cylinder head being skimmed and serviced which would be valves re seated, the head would have to be pressure checked.



The labour for removing cylinder head plus above work being done it may pay you to price the "short block"



Has the vehicule done a large mileage? over heating does a lot of damage, it could have picked a piston up and marked the piston bore.



You would see this if you took the head off.



Stop the job and price the bits, then decide if it needs a head or a short block due to the mileage

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 08:36

Berty



Was the diesel engine a K series or a BMW sourced 2 litre diesel? I'm now confused as I was under the impression that it was BMW.. mine is a 2005 model Freelander...

oddjob


Joined: 16/09/2008
Posts: 62

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 16:26

Hi.



Thanks for all the replies, advice and tips. It is actually a 1.8 petrol engine, K Series, and by all accounts they are Rover engines. Even though it is 2001 reg, it had only done genuine 27000 miles, as we have had it from new, when head blew, as by all accounts this is a very common fault with this vehicle. Landrover have settled a lot of cases out of court and discounted repairs to some that were in the 5 year warranty.



Unfortunately for us the trip back to the UK was out because of the warranty time elapsed. Still, does anybody know about the duty/tax rule if it were fitted with a recon or used engine from UK.



Thanks



oddjob