Think Before going back to UK!

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
18/10/2008 10:53

Dear members,

It would appear that quite a number have decided to sell up and go home to Uk or in the process of such.



Can I ask why? If you think the TRNC cost of living and red tape is tough think twice about going back. Even though Im in the process of migrating from UK to TRNC and have had the usual builders problems and bueracracy to deal with here, there is nothing that would keep me in the UK! I hate the place and everything the The LABOUR Government have done!



Britain is finished and damaged beyond repair...the Government and their Policys have sucked all the goodness out of Britain.



I have been miserable and striving to get out of the UK and God Willing, I will be moving to the TRNC in the next 3 months!



I dont need big houses, fast cars and loadsa money! Just happiness and QUALITY OF LIFE!



GOOD LUCK!......if your going back to UK!



nunu

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
18/10/2008 10:57

i agree hope you settle in soon in the trnc

McSteviet



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1089

Message Posted:
18/10/2008 10:58

Well said Nunu and good luck



MC

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
18/10/2008 11:45

Would you think it would be any different if Mr Cameron had been PM?

They do say some think the grass is greener

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
18/10/2008 11:47

Why would any right minded fool want to live in the uk if it all goes belly up here I am of to hati or some other god forsaken place to live in a mud hut for a couple of years.

mountbatten


Joined: 12/04/2008
Posts: 102

Message Posted:
18/10/2008 11:50

Nanu1,i wish you well,i really do.

But i would hope you have made provision for somewhere to stay in the UK should things not work out as you hope in Cyprus.

Things seem greener on the other side,but in reality,they are not always what they seem.

The thought of sun,swimming,beer etc each day seem very nice indeed,but it soon wears thin

Theres lots of things i do not like about the UK,but its still a good place to live.

I am going more by your age,you are a young man,i would hope you have a lot of savings,because it seems from what i have read,you will not find work

My very best to you

Rocker



Joined: 24/09/2008
Posts: 384

Message Posted:
18/10/2008 12:13

Nanu 1, Good Luck I hope it works out for you. I am one of those selling up and going but not back to the UK. Many reasons for going but ı will not bore you.

Rocker

lovelife


Joined: 07/07/2007
Posts: 231

Message Posted:
18/10/2008 13:13

The grass may always be greener somewhere but it still gets weeds growing in it and it still needs cutting.



Have a good weekend.



LL

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
18/10/2008 13:50

nunu

at least you still have human rights and freedom of speech.

there is something to be said for the uk!

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
18/10/2008 17:33

firestarter



at what cost .



neale

if you stay longer than a couple of years in cyprus ,try returning back to the uk,

thats when you know where the grass is greener and its not the uk.

the biggest problem for me in cyprus is boredom in the winter,good like mate.



musin

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
18/10/2008 18:31

I really don't understand why winter and boredom go together... what is it you can't do in winter in Cyprus that you want to do that is so desperately entertaining?



We see the changing seasons as times to do different things but never to be bored...

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 00:47

nunu is the correct spelling folks....not nanu..........



Thank you for your comments....members...............



Im afraid some of you are wrong. I will get work and also have been offered work!!! I have met so many people here that cannot get a decent Plumber, Electrician, Tiler, bathroom fitter etc its unbelievable.....It is not that hard to turn up or phone the customer back!



IF I HAD A POUND FOR EVERY PERSON THAT HAS SAID TO ME IN THE UK, THE PLUMBER OR THE ELECTRICIAN NEVER TURNED UP NOR RETURNED MY CALLS I WOULD BE A MULTI MILLIONAIRE!!!!!!



I CAN and I WILL BE SUCESSUFULL HERE IN THE TRNC!!!



nunu

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 00:54

Fire Starter...........Freedom of Speech? You can stand on Hyde Park corner as say as much as you like..........Protest peacefully in the Street..............................BUT I can assure you it will not get you anywhere and 99% of people wont listen to you!



Gordon Brown and His Merry Corrupt Men aint going to Listen to anybody they just continue to systematically distroy hundreds of years of good culture, education, standards and what used to be GREAT BRITAIN!



nunu

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 00:57

No I dont have lots of savings................The UK Government have and still continuing to do so........take from me!!!!!!



When things are quiet Musin in TRNC Winter time, I will be busy working and building my business......................!



nunu

Rocker



Joined: 24/09/2008
Posts: 384

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 01:10

May your empire grow

batterboy58



Joined: 20/04/2008
Posts: 442

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 01:30

Good luck Nunu



You never know how green your grass is until you've been on someone else's lawn.

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 01:43

Its nice where I live, but I live in the England that was.



http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa219/Lemtich/IOW90001.jpg



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http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa219/Lemtich/IOW50001.jpg



http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa219/Lemtich/IOW40001.jpg



Happy days



Lem

plumber



Joined: 27/08/2008
Posts: 85

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 01:57

nunu I totally agree with you with what you are saying but also the weather is so depressing in the uk Steve the plumber

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 02:07

Plumber......At the top of my list with the pros and cons of UK verses Cyprus is Weather!



That is the number 1 key thing I hate about UK is the SHIT weather!



For once, I cannot blame Gordon Brown for that!



nunu

RedSnapper


Joined: 12/08/2008
Posts: 540

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 02:13

the U.K is Gods own land and you make it what it is through your own efforts, don`t blame the country for your own short comings or failiures, millions of people have a superb life-style here, don`t be so disgruntled. what`s your contribution to the British success story short of paying a bit of tax minus family benefits?

plumber



Joined: 27/08/2008
Posts: 85

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 02:26

Im really looking forward to the rest of my life in NC there isnt a place in the whole world without its problems just think if there was it would be a very boring place yes im 100% happy with my choice steve

RedSnapper


Joined: 12/08/2008
Posts: 540

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 02:34

"Sun" Wow..

plumber



Joined: 27/08/2008
Posts: 85

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 02:39

RedSnapper I see your point but it is not the place it used to be im not running away from anything I just want a better life in retirement I need the sun for health reasons keep your chin up mate work hard & treat yourself to a wonderfull holiday in nc ill buy you a beer Steve

RedSnapper


Joined: 12/08/2008
Posts: 540

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 02:45

fair comment mate, thats why they call me snapper. NC is alright and a former colony. we could go on all night about whats wrong with Britain including the current Muslim onslaught, a happy peaceful life for all is deserved. England gave me my family and my living, anything else is icing

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 15:13

Red Snapper... Spoken like a true Englishman..More power to tour elbow sir,,,

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 16:07

as you most know i live in france- centre ouest - the weather is nice since the end of my cuprus holidays, beautiful blue sky and sunshine - colder of course -

we have our children in france, a baby grnad child since 3 weeks, a nice house in girne but still woudn't be able to stay full time in cyprus - i would feel tight - even my husband TC loves to come as much as we can but not full time - nothing to do with weather or cost of life - just enjoy come and going when we feel like for the best ! see the one we love in france and in cyprus - to me, and it is personnal, i get bored winter time if i stay too long - - still i am coming in february with pleasure for a change !

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 19:22

Britain is a good place to live my gripe is the people we employ to run it are sh*te. In it for themselves and what they can get out of it.

Its scandalous.

Gin&Tonic


Joined: 09/10/2008
Posts: 66

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 19:28

I love Britain, I also have a place in Cyprus that I visit often, that I also love..

It's the perfect balance for me..

scampy



Joined: 15/01/2008
Posts: 982

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 19:34

Nunu 1



I agree I have been here for 7 years and never ever want to go back to that



Susie x

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 20:09

I Love my place in the TRNC , I love the locals and the weather , but i also love the UK , this time of the year the trees , aw those colours , fab sunrises/sunsets we live quite rural , privlidged to live in two countries .

newby07


Joined: 04/05/2008
Posts: 37

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 20:20

I may not have read all the postings here, so at the risk of being repetitive.

Try a holiday in the UK before committing to go to live there. We did it recently and it was a 'Rude awakening'. The costs are sky high and the EU restrictions are repressive. Futhermore the weather is Muslim (sometimes Suni but generaly Shiet)

Try before you buy!

stewy


Joined: 18/10/2008
Posts: 279

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 20:38

Why Cyprus? Many places in this world of ours.

I have been here 4 months. Not that impressed.

If you want a life full of sunny afternoons and

telly watching at night its ok.

If you want civilisation. Good food. Entertainment.

To name just a few essentials. Go elsewhere.

RedSnapper


Joined: 12/08/2008
Posts: 540

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 22:04

think thats quite close to it stewy, i see it as a chill out place and a bolt hole, nice to get away from the hustle and bustle of the big u.k cities and relax then launch yourself back into the job. think i`d like to retire eventually to somewhere in the carribean, warm all year round, english speaking, and the occasional hurricane to blow the cobwebs away...is it a rollover next week?

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
19/10/2008 22:05

Nunu1

I doubt that those who are leaving are happy doing so. Unfortunately many are sad and disillusioned with their life here, be it the cost of living or the way they have been treated i.e.builder, estate agent, lawyer, racism etc. It is saddening to see whole households being auctioned off by families leaving.

Hector

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
20/10/2008 02:02

Hector and other interested members.............basically there is noting left thats good about UK. If I got a 50k GBP a year job I would use it for 3 months to gain enough money to come back to TRNC. If I won the lottery, I would book a British Airways first class ticket to Larnaca from T5 LHR.



If Gawdy Brown or HRH Lizzy phone me up and begged me to stay..........Id have to decline!



Have to give it a go in TRNC!



nunu

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
20/10/2008 02:11

I think the rock group Genesis my favourite should re release the trak Selling England by the pound! And send the first copy to Gawdy Brown!



Do you all remember the record THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER by D=REAM when New Labour won 11 years ago!?



Well Have they got better? People have short memories.........



The only good thing Labour have done is introduced the minimum wage!



nunu

jamesfair


Joined: 20/10/2008
Posts: 6

Message Posted:
22/10/2008 23:25

Happiness is a state of mind and about as elusive as a Yeti no matter where you are... but the sunshine, blue skies and relaxed atmosphere of Northern Cyprus certainly help to lift the spirits!

windmill


Joined: 06/07/2008
Posts: 143

Message Posted:
23/10/2008 09:20

NUNU 1,

I think Cyprus might be the best place for you

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
23/10/2008 12:57

Dear all members......Well Im back to the UK and on que was greeted by thick clouds over the Channel! It was clear blue sky all the way across Europe until UK! Then it rained later in the day its always the bloody same!



CTA or KTHY are a good airline, its the 3rd time I have flown with them and all 3 times they have been punctual almost to the minute. They deserve recogntion for this. I spoke to somebody on the flight back who informed me they have flown BA and that the airline were late every single time! My God things have changed!



I had a lovely time in TRNC and met some new interesting people and good contacts.



Back to sorting things in UK.....



nunu

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
23/10/2008 14:19

Pipie msg30 ,agree.



Nunu

'nothing good about UK'



lot to complain about but,credit for.



Parliamentary system, u have the right to vote tories in I can vote them out, something we take for granted.



People, not full of benifit cheats nor are most Brit workers striking wasters.Nor are most businessmen cheats. Are as good as you will find anywhere.



Mostly free education that has enabled some of us to work abroad taxfree while slagging of some of those taxpayers that paid for it.



Legal system,again taken for granted, check this site, nuff said.



NHS, I for one have needed to use the excellent staff and free service.Anyone care to elaborate on how heart valve operations or longterm dialiysis is funded in a lot of places .You sell your house ,and then?



think most of us would choose to live abroad for lifestyle&climate,and not to escape some sort of hell hole.At least then we dont appear foolish to friends in UK, if we ever were forced to return.

brandy sour


Joined: 09/04/2008
Posts: 310

Message Posted:
23/10/2008 15:09

Nice pictures Lemtich

As for living in NC i still think you need good funding to stay there to keep you happy we are not pension age yet but but i dont think we could sell up leave the security of jobs that we both have at moment because money will just run out sooner or later and it is not easy to get work there but you never know when our pensions kick in and there is a solution to the cyprus problems and our apartment is finish then it would be nice enjoy the island as it should be with both sides getting on.

windmill


Joined: 06/07/2008
Posts: 143

Message Posted:
23/10/2008 15:39

NANU1

There you go again,i think you want to hear bad about the uk now that you have made the decision to leave,are you really sure that cyprus is better?

As regards ba and kthy,i have been on kthy three times,what rubbish,ba on monday,could not fault it,you try and make contact with kthy offices,no chance.

You listened and believed the person who run ba down,remember your post about the people who have offered you work.

Maybe that is what the problem is with you in the uk,you have your head in the sand

Elliecy


Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 153

Message Posted:
23/10/2008 16:32

I think are are certainly problems in the UK but that doesnt mean that the TRNC is the best place to go - hence the number of people who are leaving. Having been here a few years, I too am thinking of leaving, although not necessarily back to the UK. Yes, you get the sun here, but you can also get that elsewhere, without many of the problems that are making so many leave and at the end of the day, no matter where I live, I'll always be British and to me, England will always be home.

brandy sour


Joined: 09/04/2008
Posts: 310

Message Posted:
23/10/2008 16:44

Have we miss something on this Discussion board Windmill or do you and Nunu1 know each other personally

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
23/10/2008 16:52

girne29: "I think most of us would choose to live abroad for lifestyle&climate,and not to escape some sort of hell hole.At least then we dont appear foolish to friends in UK, if we ever were forced to return."



Very well put. Credit crunch, inflation and erosion of pension value is nothing compared to future property compensation payouts. How many of the knockers will be tucking into double helpings of humble pie in a year or so?

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
23/10/2008 20:48

PtePike.

To be honest I am more concerned about pension erosion and the present inflation level that are with us today, rather than than any thought of compensation tomorrow or, as I believe, never.



Turkey is at present giving over $400 million annually to TRNC .Prior to any agreement with the south,it would be worth Turkey to promise say 5 years worth $2 billion for compensation to ease agreement based on the savings later of no subsidy .An efficient local govt would be hopefully put in place after agreement ,that would correct the problems that everybody, apart from the powers that be, see in the construction and legal depts. Houses start to sell. plus tourism up,economy no longer bankrupt.



I would never hope for anyone to lose the dream,as politics aside, most of us have that same dream.

I was pointing out that in my life in UK,I do not believe I have been badly treated,I will criticise where due, but also defend the institutions that looked after

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
23/10/2008 21:00

Pike



What will you do if... contrary to your oft-repeated take on the the likely outcome of a settlement, the settlement is reached on the basis of compensation being paid by some august body other than individual house buyers and no largescale movement of displaced GCs occurs?



How much humble pie will you eat? Your statement of your vision of the future is as self-serving as it is a wish... You don't really have any better idea of what will happen in the future than anybody else does...



I do know one thing, if it does go against you, you will cry foul... being "right" does not always mean you get your way... as life will often show you.



It's not the self-righteous who will inherit the earth...

mountbatten


Joined: 12/04/2008
Posts: 102

Message Posted:
23/10/2008 21:49

Will now bore the pants off you all

Little Britain

Do you know your England,your Scotland and your Wales:the coasts,the rivers and the lochs,the mountains and the vales ?

Have you seen the Western Isles,the Berwyns or Torbay?

If you've not,why cross the Channel for a holiday ?

Have you walked in Shakespeare's Stratford where the Avon gleams,or tramped the Lakeland paradise where Wordsworth dreamed his dreams ?

Have you been to Glastonbury,Norwich,Cambridge,Wells ?

Have you seen the towers of York or heard the Salisbury bells ?

In our little Britain untold treasures you can see:the story and the glory of our island history....Though so much has been destroyed of beauty and of worth-it is still ''this sceptre'd Isle,the fairest place on earth.

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
24/10/2008 03:34

Windmill.....thank you for your comments. I do not believe everything that I am told or read. I take note of everything going on in the World and make my own judgements/decisions and generally work things out.



Many people admire me and come to me for guidance and sound advice...



Me have my head buried in the sand?



I note that you have chosen to omit most details about yourself?



You are obviously insecure and have problems...



nunu

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
24/10/2008 07:04

Lem,



Lovely pics. What area of the UK are you from?



wyn

windmill


Joined: 06/07/2008
Posts: 143

Message Posted:
24/10/2008 10:14

Wyn,i believe Lem is from the Isle of Wight

windmill


Joined: 06/07/2008
Posts: 143

Message Posted:
24/10/2008 10:33

NANU1

I really dont know what difference it makes putting my details on this forum

You are right i have problems,would you have a few quid for me ?

I have always felt insecure,i really felt it last night,i thought the condom had slipped off.

Let me know what details of me you want to know.

I can be anything you want me too be,my best one is a job giver in North Cyprus

I draw the line at being Prime Minister,driving out all of our fine men

Still at least Cyprus will get a bright spark

Be off lad,conquer the world

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
24/10/2008 10:52

Windmill . Love the third sentence , can't stop giggling . lol !!!!!

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
24/10/2008 12:08

girne 29,



Given that Turkey actively inforces racial discrimination in north Cyprus, denying employment or equal rights to non-Turks as just one example, I find it hard to believe they would suddenly choose to bail out foreigners who gambled on taking what wasn't theirs and lost. The asset is there to be seized so I would imagine compensation payable by the occupier is the most likely scenario. But those is that unfortunate position will have to wait and see.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
24/10/2008 12:16

Groucho,



Some people have morals about what is right and wrong and what constitutes inexcusable actions. Taking what isn't yours and benefitting from the suffering and misfortune of others is considered despicable by most good people. Compensation is the very least individuals can do to absolve themselves, though being that type anyway most will no doubt be only too keen to find someone else to pay up.



You seem very uptight about the compensation issue for someone who claims to have bought pre-74. Was that what the estate agent told you, or have you checked with the proper legal authorities? Or are you only kidding and no different than most of the others?

namus


Joined: 23/06/2007
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
24/10/2008 13:21

PtePike,



I admire your persistence in attempting to explain right and wrong to a bunch of people who consider sun, cheap beer and stolen property as preferable to democracy, rule of law, free speech, health care....etc in Britain.



It amuses me that any TC with a modicum of intelligence is trying to get to the UK for a better life. I give all the TRNC ex pats 5 years max before they discover what every TC knows - Cyprus is great for holidays but awful for living.

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
24/10/2008 17:01

namus

Many people have valid opinions that dont conform to the absolutes of what either you or Nunu say,



He hates the UK way of life and you hate the present TRNC way of life,.Most of us lie in between and its not a question of education.



I agree with a lot of what PtePike says about corruption ,ripoffs,no legal protection,etc ,etc, It would be childish not too.,but you have to take the bad with the good ,and at present the good far outweighs the bad Where we disagree is that I hope a middle of the road approach is taken, rather than the choice between the two absolutes, of the continuing self destruction of the TRNC or full absorption into the ROC.

We know the TRNC cannot continue on its present road, we know about compensation,we are not children.The views offered in various posts are all possibilities and we are only arguing the different scenarios .

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
24/10/2008 17:02

namus,



Nice one. Don't worry - I'll keep explaining it to them. Over the years several have been very grateful. I wish I could have done more for the AGA buyers on another BB but I was muzzled then banned for trying to tell them about Gary Robb. Funnily enough, one individual who tried to shut me up (because he was getting commission from Robb) is a member here...

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
24/10/2008 17:32

PtePike

If compensation has to be paid ,so be it ,I dont think it will be much of a shock,and most of us aren't naive enough to believe much note will be taken of us in the grand scheme of things.



My point as to why Turkey might subsidise the compensation was that the cost would be helped by the savings made later on and maybe worth it to avoid trouble..Your point on discrimination ,while perhaps valid for us ,would not be valid for TC's or mainland turks who have bought property,so maybe everybody would be afforded the same protection.

Also the TRNC or Turkish authorities might not want large amounts of apartments in say Girne handed over to GC's by people unwilling to spend any more ,add to that the bad publicity in Turkey at the sight of TC authorities enforcing the eviction or handing over of property to Greeks in a Turkish area.





The property issue is not just about compensation and might not be treated in isolation.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
24/10/2008 18:07

Nicely balanced post girne 29