Stop the Blackmail in North Cyprus (facebook) group

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
11/05/2011 19:03

A group has been set up on facebook.



It's aims to make the Government aware of the strength of feeling of victims and their supporters. Every Builders scam is a form of blackmail, their aim is to extort more money from hapless victims.



We are ATTEMPTING to gain as many members as possible, the object to make the Government aware of the depth of feeling (disgust). Please join if you feel strongly or are a victim. Silence will achieve nothing.

The newspapers here have been emasculated but the inernet cannot be. If we can gain sufficient numbers, it will be hard to ignore us. What have we got to lose? THey have taken everything from some of us and goodly

amount from a lot of us.



We love the TRNC, BUT THEY MUST OPEN THEIR EYES BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.

Stonehousepub


Joined: 21/05/2009
Posts: 755

Message Posted:
11/05/2011 21:04

I'm suprised with the zero level of response on this one...

johnerebus



Joined: 15/05/2009
Posts: 72

Message Posted:
11/05/2011 21:14

Can you please let me know the name I need to type on Facebook to gain access to the new group? Thanks, John

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 07:55

johnerbus there is a link but I do not seem to be able to get it. Anyone on here who can help??

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 08:00

This should take you there



http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_144931625579220

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 08:54

Thank you so much erol, have you joined us? We are pro TRNC and anti Blackmail.

misunderstood


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Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 15:58

110 at the last count, I hope some of them are cC44ers

misunderstood


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Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
13/05/2011 07:33

129 members now - a good proportion of Turkish Cypriots.



Why so little interest from this forum.



Do none of you have any problems? I hope it isn't HISS stopping you joining?

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
13/05/2011 08:04

Why so little interest from this forum you ask.



Has it not occured to you that Not every one who is living in north cyprus has problems or a horror story to tell,some of us conducted due diligence,some never, some unlucky,some i believe will want a peaceful life and not want to be involved in other peoples problems.

Personally i have no horror story to tell or discuss and have no wish to be a member of a social network site,by the way,just my own opinion for myself.

Good luck with your group.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
13/05/2011 09:35

Firstly misunderstood to not over estimate the number of people this forums is viewed by. The firgure of 13,000 members is meaningless on a forum where it is impossible to leave. Even on forums where it possible to leave thse total numbers are misleading. I would not be surprised if the forum only had around 1000 indivduals viewing it in any given time period. Then you also need to remember than not everyone uses facebook or wants. I myself resisted using it for many years and even now I do have a profile on facebook, I use it very little and maintain concerns about how facebook monterise and own the information about the relationships I inform it about.

I also have to say the wording of the group was and is a little off putting for me. If it said 'it is an all to common an occurance' I would have no problem. Saying just it is a common occurance implies to me that it happens more often that it does not which I just do not know to be ture. Anyway despite this I have joined now.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
13/05/2011 14:38

Erol, one incidence oif blackmail could be dealt with, unfortunately it is very widespread although of course we realise not all purchasers have had our misfortune and I would gO as faf as to say prior to 2005 it was almost unheard of. Being anti - blackmai, does not mean we are not pro TRNC, I certainly am. Thanks for joining.



Omaintenance - I would love to swap places with you, unfortunately it isn't possible. I am happy you are happy. I know some people do not want to get 'involved', fortunately for us there are lots who do not have problems (that they know of) but still support those less fortunate than them. Due diligence is fine, most of us would argue we did our homework too, how do you guard against, dishonest builders, landowners, advocates who get together and take advantage after you have signed, paid stamp duty and paid for your property? Oh I almost forgot BANKS - THAT WOULD NEVER DO. Remember we bought back in 2005 and our real problems only surfaced in 2008

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
13/05/2011 15:00

If the fact that there are 1400 plus in the mortgage queue, people who know there is a mortgage on their villas and are negotiating or waiting for the Bank to pounce. If you consider there are literally hundreds if not a thousand plus, plus still on Builders Eelectricity or no electricity, on water, villa not started, villa not finished, villa a very bad build, builder demanding more than the Contracted amount, Builder demanding purchaser pay HIS taxes as well as their own and that is just a selection of the many and varied problems, yes I did expect more interest if only from those people, and yes I know there are caring people out there without problems who would like to help and yes I understand that there are those who do not want to know cos it rocks their cosy little world. I appreciate it takes all sorts to make a world 0maintenance but I have to say I have been patronised more effectively. Due dilgience could also be just pure good luck.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
13/05/2011 15:04

I agree its widespread. It may even be more common than not today, I just do not know if that is the case, that is all. I know you are not anti TRNC. I am just pro accuracy thats all and maybe more pedantic than most. I would have preferd the phares 'it is all too common', because it still makes the point that its widespread, just does not imply something that may not be true. In any case I joined the group anyway.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
13/05/2011 17:27

Erol, I can assure you I am not underestimating the size of the problem.



I did not start this Group but I am behind it 100% Until people stop being frightened we cannot get the real size of the problem, but I am sure of the 1400 mortgages, it is all the other problems where the numbers are not so easy to collate because of the fear factor. Even now people are hoping the builder/developer/landowner will do the right thing. This will ony happen if people pay the blackmail money they are demanding.



I so want the TRNC Governement to wake up and smell the coffee. I love the TRNC, it is the first place I have lived I ever wanted to stay in.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
13/05/2011 19:09

omaintenance, message 19.

I think you have missed the point here. Some people really do not know what being part of a community means! This is not about " It has not happened to me, therefore I need not become involved". It's about looking at what's right and wrong and seeking preventative action, rather than allowing all who buy in the TRNC, to become sitting ducks. You like to think you acted with due diligence but if you bought a property without having your PTP confirmed, which is how the system currently works, then you left yourself wide open. If you needed to wait for your deeds, having already made payments on your property, then you too could have been at risk of memorandums being placed on your property. Not to mention future "exchange property "problems?



Surely you can see that the current system is failing people? I respect your wish not to get involved but PLEASE lets not make out people got scammed because they did not act with due diligence or were simply unlucky.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
13/05/2011 19:15

Bradus nice to see you back, I agree with all you have said. There is a certain apathy wherby I think people are scared to get involved. I admire misunderstood so much for alerting people to the faults and fear a lot more to come. I will try to join but Im useless at this sort of thing. So here goes. x

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
13/05/2011 19:43

Hi Lilli



Are you on facebook, if you are then joining is not problem.



Thanks for caring.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
13/05/2011 19:44

Hi love I have done it I think xxx I do care for all we have all gone through xxx

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
13/05/2011 19:58

You have Lilli - Pauline just approved you and the group is all the better for having you as part of it.



Thank you xxx

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
13/05/2011 20:03

No love thank you xxx Im proud to help x

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
14/05/2011 06:39

139 members as at this morning and yes there are others I recognise from here besides the lovely Lilli, so folks, my thanks to you. There are so many lovely people here in the TRNC, it is beautiful isn't it. Pity that so few have made it miserable for so many.

birdman



Joined: 20/09/2010
Posts: 690

Message Posted:
14/05/2011 09:05

Glad to be on board and willing to help in any way I can.

I'm just happy that I too do not have the problems that others are striving to overcome.

A Twig is easily snapped, a bunch of twigs however is far more difficult !

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
14/05/2011 12:01

Birdman - Thanks a noble addition to our group - now up to 168 and rising.



If every member introduced three of their friends and so on, think what could happen to the numbers.



Just an optomistic suggestion - no lectures please.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
14/05/2011 20:50

210 and growing.

Tootie


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
14/05/2011 21:11

Im not a member of FB and cannot view your FB group.



Have you thought that the message your trying to send out is not being seen by your target audience, or are the TRNC GOV on FB?





http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_144931625579220

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
15/05/2011 06:48

Tootie - I am afraid it is needs be where the devil drives and the devil is NEVER right.



The media here have a gag on and it seems it is only lifted when someone like Mr. Denktas speaks out.

How crazy that K5 had to pay to have the announcement by BOysan Bora published and only one paper would take that. Akfinans have scared them into submission using the Banking law, which when you think about is crazy because the only people causing harm to the Banking reputation is a Bank - go figure.

Pauline writes on NCFP, the only coverage we get regularly.

C44 is excellent and gives us exposure but I do understand that it is not it's main function and the needs of all other users has to be met.

Any suggestions anyone has wil be gratefully received.

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
15/05/2011 07:08

mess 15 - a top post, Brabus - well done...........



Nothing could have prepared us for the lies and deceit that that awaited once we signed on the dotted line............

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
15/05/2011 07:28

Yes negativenick, I totally agree.



The only difference between Omaintenance and some of us victims is she had the good fortune to pick an honest Vendor, due diligence is all very well but all the diligence in the world will not save you from the determined 'con' man and some here have a degree in it.



No need to be smug just because you are lucky, enjoy your good fortune and tune us 'whingers' out, which by the sound of it is what Omaintenance has done already.



Rock the boat, don't rock the boat baby. Get your life jackets on follks!!!!

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
15/05/2011 13:02

Good to see that your getting more members..Keep up the fight.









Spider,X

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
15/05/2011 14:40

243 at the moment. More importantly, we are getting some good and interesting comments on there which is gratifying. Some quite prominent TC's have joined.

walkerscott


Joined: 13/08/2009
Posts: 901

Message Posted:
15/05/2011 15:08

I fully support any small step towards highlighting the "state of affairs" here in the TRNC.

http://www.no-deeds-no-money.moonfruit.com

I too, love the TRNC and the Turkish Cypriots ...

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
15/05/2011 15:29

So will you be joining us walkerscott?

walkerscott


Joined: 13/08/2009
Posts: 901

Message Posted:
15/05/2011 17:56

of course i will. have just asked to join

misunderstood


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Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
15/05/2011 18:58

Thank you



Paulinexx

Teresa


Joined: 21/11/2007
Posts: 1018

Message Posted:
15/05/2011 21:41

I found myself added to this group this morning even though i did not add myself and have no wish to be part of it. I do feel very sorry for everyone who has problems and have tried in the past to support as much as i could but the candle vigil was the last straw for me. There was a total lack of support from the victims so if they cant be bothered then why should i. I dont disagree that there needs to be changes made by the goverment but i dont think a facebook page is going to make much difference but i do wish you all luck.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
16/05/2011 07:00

Anything is worth trying Teresa and totally agree with you regarding the Candlelit Vigil however it

does not mean because that event was poorly attended we should just lie down and play dead. Had the orginal Vigil planned for 4th Oct to coincide with the London Vigil gone ahead, I think the attendance would have been much greater. HOwever the government put the pressure on Pauline and made sure it didn't.

In doing that they also put the fear factor into a lot of people who would have attended the second one in November if the fear of arrest had not been there.



Teresa, nothing changes if no effort is made. Failures can be followed by success. Women in Britain didn't get the vote without a lot of failures first and people even made the ultimiate sacrifice. NOthing is ever gained immediately, so we try try try again.





I totally repect your stance, I just do not agree with i

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
16/05/2011 07:10

Teresa



Just for the record, the Turkish families (relatives of the thief Yuksel Yilmaz) are not being intimidated. They continue to live happily in Democrasi Sokak as spectators of the Akfinans sport 'initimiidate the ex pats'.

I have even witnessed cosy chats going on between Ertul Kader (Yuksel's friend and the Akfinans Manager/owner who also claimed to be Yuksels best friend) Perhaps you can see now why we have always believed they were all part of the scam.

Well I remember when Osman (brother in law) was angry about the mortgage, but not because of the mortgage, because of the amount, Yilmaz had told him it was 70,000 TL and it turned out to be 100,000TL.

Poor chap, rooked over the size of the share of his loot maybe???

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
16/05/2011 13:45

Membershiop now stands at 252

flowerfairy


Joined: 17/09/2008
Posts: 1277

Message Posted:
17/05/2011 09:11

I was also joined without my consent. As of this morning, I had received no less than 13 messages.

I find it hard to believe that bombarding people with facebook messages is going to make a ha'pence worth of

difference.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
17/05/2011 09:14

sorry flowerfairy I will ask those that know more about it, how that can be avoided. YOu could only have been put on by one of your facebook friends. NO other way it can happen.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
17/05/2011 11:20

It has been addressed but possibly too late for you ff/ Thanks for bringing it to our attention/

flowerfairy


Joined: 17/09/2008
Posts: 1277

Message Posted:
17/05/2011 13:56

I think it's gone from my facebook, but to date, have received 25 emails regarding the subject.

Does anyone know how I can stop this, I think it's pretty obvious why I don't want to receive any more. I am not computer literate, so please be gentle with instructions.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
17/05/2011 18:00

@ msg 35, Teresa: (...) I found myself added to this group this morning even though i did not add myself and have no wish to be part of it. I do feel very sorry for everyone who has problems and have tried in the past to support as much as i could but the candle vigil was the last straw for me. There was a total lack of support from the victims so if they cant be bothered then why should i. I dont disagree that there needs to be changes made by the goverment but i dont think a facebook page is going to make much difference but i do wish you all luck. (...)

▶ Out of solidarity I was at the candle vigil also (with about 20-30 Brits and Cypriot Turks), although I have no problems. Where were the victims and their friends/supporters (at Sunday lunch/roast?)? Where were the posters in this thread? It was a good lesson: mind your own business. I will - although like Teresa I wish you all luck.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
17/05/2011 18:34

That is not the message I sent out DutchCrusader I respect your right o feel as you do and if I have to stand alone, I will.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
17/05/2011 18:47

@ msg 44, misunderstood: As you may remember I've given the cause some graphical help, but after the tragic failure of the "candle vigil" I doubt whether the TRNC government has any reason to take any expat initiative serious again. It's so easy to "join" the Facebook group - and then what? If there's no well thought out 'business plan' and well organised support plan behind your actions it's all lost time. Bu that's only my opinion.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
17/05/2011 18:51

Yes it does seem a thankless task at times, I know the guy who set up this group has worked hard and tirelessly campaigning for change. It would be easy at my age and in my state of health to say, sod it, I will leave it to someone else. Yes I have a vested interest in seeing Justice prevail but even if I did not, I hope I would not fall at the first, second, third, fourth hurdle. If change was easy there would be no need

for people to demand it.



I am sorry DutchCrusader and Teresa that you were disheartened at the Vigil, so was I but I won't let it stop me from trying. Change never came without sacrifice.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
17/05/2011 20:46

If you remember Dutchcrusader it was not an ex pat initative it was TC namely the lovely ismet, it had been my idea and if the oirignal vigil had been allowed to go ahead, I think it would have had a greater attendance, however, the govt. stamped on it and me and understandably people became frightened, for that I do not blame them.



Not continuing the fight is not an option for me, that is the nature of the person I am.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
17/05/2011 21:47

Keep at it misunderstood and everyone else who feels the same way.



Like I read on here all the time if those that are not interested or those that are tired of giving support, they do not need to read your threads or even post.



Like the ticking of a clock...everything changes lets all hope things change for the better very soon.





Spider X

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
17/05/2011 22:03

Thanks spider -



Is anyone else having problems getting on NCFP AND 3 Cyprus forum. They both seem to be down at the moment.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
17/05/2011 22:17

NCFP is down from where I am atm

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
17/05/2011 22:26

misunderstood (mess 44)



You will never stand alone! while there is breath in my old bitter body!



Keep the Faith

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
18/05/2011 07:51

I have posted a new thread to let all know that are down following a MASSIVE attack on both the NCFP AND

3 Cyrus forum - another form of blackmail to silence??? See the thread for details

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
19/05/2011 15:01

Today I took real ear bending from a member of K5 who's friend holds me entirely responsible for her being bombarded with e mails from our group.



Fact 1. I did not start this group

Fact 2. This 'friend' is obviously not a friend of mine and therefore I could not have introduced her as a member.

Fact 3. It is too easy to click 'Leave the group'

Fact 4. I do not appreciate being told I am harming Kulaksiz 5 by being an active member of this group which is for ALL property scam victims., and has my wholehearted support.

Fact 5. I am used to the Pauline Read 'bashing' but at least if you want to 'bash' me, get your facts right.



Pauline Read.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
19/05/2011 23:17

What a shame Pauline that some unlike myself...Seem unable to sort this out. And just for the record I have not suggested any of my facebook friends. I have shared the link to it and left it to them to decide. I think if one clicks onto the like link perhaps thats how they became joined Thats the way it happens on these sort of things,but you can like your friends postings too both are completely different likes



Hope this helps.



P.S..I have not had an offer of a lift down to the court for the morning :(



Spider,X

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
20/05/2011 07:17

Is there anyone ifn Karsiyaka coming that could pick up spider????

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
23/05/2011 07:21

After a few leaving the group mostly because they were introduced by friends who did not ge their permission and some because of the excessive e mails coming their way. The number is now 266. For those of you introduced without your permission, I am sure your friends meant well and we are sorry to lose you.

The e mail problem is easily fixed by going to edit and unticking the boxes.



We also have an event page now and for those of you not on facebook but would like to take part.



The next event is the K5 Hearing at Girne District Court on Thursday 26th May (this Thursday) at 2.00 p.m.

Everyone is welcome.

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
23/05/2011 10:52

i'm getting dozens of e mails about this each week...



you are begining to sound like the boy who cried wool...



and we know what happened there...................

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
23/05/2011 11:13

If you are a member nick then you will. Just go to Edit setting and unclick the ticks.



Oh, how I wish it was only a question of crying wolf.



If you are not a member then with all due respect the bit about you getting dozens of e mails is just so much tosh. Or as you would put it, a load of c**p.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
23/05/2011 15:27

now up to 305 members and the majority are Turkish Cypriot. Som names to be reckoned with too.

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
23/05/2011 17:39

Spotted this top post on the Facebook page.

"Well done Koz. We need to send the message to all our parties that TRNC belongs to us all, and should not be hijacked by crooks who cannot possibly represent us all. Our leaders need to understand the views of the vast silent majority. Butun dostlara tesekkurler". How very true!

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
24/05/2011 07:08

Overnight the membership soared to 387 - yes 387 and the vast majority are Turkish Cypriot.



So for those of you who have been frightened, even though you have problems, you will be in good company.



Join today, you owe it to yourselves to stand up and be counted. You owe it to the Turkish Cypriots who are supprting YOU. Say No to blackmail, say no to injustice. You are not alone.



For those who have joined even though you have no problems, thank you.



Pauline Read

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
24/05/2011 15:42

Here we go again- another police call

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
24/05/2011 17:48

ver 400 now

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
30/05/2011 16:55

Is it really only me that finds it absolutely remarkable that we now have 453 members and the vast majority are Turkish Cypriots, would you agree that at last we are beginning to really engage all victims and not just the British. I just find it so encouraging.

birdman



Joined: 20/09/2010
Posts: 690

Message Posted:
30/05/2011 22:46

I too urge all those people sitting on the fence waiting for a judgement to join us NOW..



If it does NOT go well for the K5 people, those of you on other sites with the same problems of Banks giving loans to fraudulent builder WILL suffer the same problems that the K5 victims have suffered.



It's no good putting your heads in the sand, IT WILL HAPPEN TO YOU TOO.

So get your arses and heads, out of the sand and join the "STOP THE BLACKMAIL IN NORTH CYPRUS " facebook page.



AFTER this judgment, (Whichever way it goes.) any person who has problems with their builders, who has NOT joined this action group, will get no support from me ! ( Or I suspect from anyone else who has joined this group). If YOU can't be bothered to support us, then don't expect anyone to be bothered about you and believe me, YOU WILL be "BLACKMAILED at some later date.



To those who have joined and are Not part of the K5, you will have our lasting support when your turn to suffer comes along.



Gerry

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
30/05/2011 23:35

Gerry (mess 65)



There are so many victims! more than you will ever know! many have walked or run away, and no-one cares!



That is the nature of the TRNC! a smash & grab society! my turn to suffer has gone! but I will always be there for Pauline! she has held her own council, worked her bloody socks off to try to right the wrongs of a country that has allowed so much corruption!



As for lasting support, well you only have to read the threads on this board!



Good Luck Pauline/K5 for the 6th June, I'll have my black arm band on for you all "In Spain"

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
31/05/2011 00:13

The message from Kucuk's team on his visit to the UK, with Embargoed, was that with a potential 2-3000 people in the same position as the K5 the cost of a bail out would be astronomical, and they simply cannot afford it.



2-3000!!!!!



So much for those that are repeatedly saying that it is only a few purchasers that suffer at the hands of a few corrupt developers and that most buy without problems. If you have not got your deeds, you could be one of the above.



Please support Pauline, you never know when you might need help.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
31/05/2011 06:45

NOw if a politician tells you it is 2 to 3,000 you know you need to double that figure, yet I find myself struggling to get anyone interested in saving themselves - Why - do you really believe at this stage in the game it really is just going to 'go away'. Wake up and smell the coffee.



Fortunately there are those who are wide awake (Thank God) and mobilising. Look at the Stop the Blackmail in North Cyprus facebook group, then ask yourself, "Am I really going to wait until the axe falls, or am I going to do something to try to stop it?" Your villa, your choice. The inevtiable is only inevitable if you allow it to be.



460 members and growing, predominately Turkish Cypriots, if they care - why don't you?



Never give in - never give up.

kibrisvisitor


Joined: 28/05/2011
Posts: 98

Message Posted:
31/05/2011 08:54

Never give in - never give up STOP PAYING UP



Say no to EXTORTION



Say NO to BLACKMAIL

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
31/05/2011 11:06

Say yes to the TRNC say no to blackmail.............

kibrisvisitor


Joined: 28/05/2011
Posts: 98

Message Posted:
31/05/2011 16:29

OR



stick yer head in the sand and eat at polar restaurant ( Beydola Construction ) the shafted don and shelia



or eat at The Ambience Chetin ataly's list of victims is to long for one post well into the hunderds

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
31/05/2011 17:50

kibrisvisitor is right, by using these restaurants you are saying 'hey we don't care if you shaft our fellow human beings' just as long as the bill is okay'

If they will stint on their build, their obligations, I dread to think what you might have on your plate in their cutting corners operation, just a thought. A leopard never changes it's spots.

puppylover



Joined: 05/05/2008
Posts: 1427

Message Posted:
31/05/2011 20:23

What is Chetin Ataly's connection with the Ambience Restauarant please?

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
31/05/2011 20:41

other than eating there on the night the bomb was placed, I'm not sure there is a connection.

kibrisvisitor


Joined: 28/05/2011
Posts: 98

Message Posted:
31/05/2011 20:49

What is Chetin Ataly's connection with the Ambience Restauarant please?



according to newspaper reports he owns it.

kibrisvisitor


Joined: 28/05/2011
Posts: 98

Message Posted:
31/05/2011 20:57

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yeniduzen.com%2Fhaber_detay2.asp%3Fa%3D31539%26print%3Dyes&hl=en&langpair=auto|en&tbb=1&ie=ISO-8859-9

" owner of Ambiance Restaurant Cetin Atalay "



http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yeniduzen.com%2Fdetay.asp%3Fa%3D31539%26z%3D3&hl=en&langpair=auto|en&tbb=1&ie=ISO-8859-9



" Ambiance Restaurant owner Cetin Atalay "

puppylover



Joined: 05/05/2008
Posts: 1427

Message Posted:
31/05/2011 21:48

I have been asked to post the on behalf of Tracey and Metin who are friend's of mine and also run the Ambience Restaurant.



They would like members to know that Chetin Atalay is not the owner of the Ambience restaurant.

On the evening of the incident it had been Mr Atalay's first visit to the Ambience and that they were not aware that he was the intended target until they themselves read it in the local paper the following morning.



They would appreciate it if people posted "fact" rather than a google translation.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 06:56

Since Cetin Atalay is not the owner or in any way fianancially connected to the Ambience Restaurant then I apologise. I will not be party to maligning people who are just trying to earn a living.



I would advise Tracey and Metin to contact the newspaper and insist they print some sort of explanation since their Restaurant had a negative mention.

kibrisvisitor


Joined: 28/05/2011
Posts: 98

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 09:11

having put the article though several translate sites they all say the same Tracey and Metin should contact the newspaper and insist they print a retraction



Ambiance Restoran sahibi Is adami Çetin Atalay’in aracina bomba koymak istedigi iddia edilen Yüksel Irmak adli zanli dün mahkemeye çikarildi.



I apologise for any hurt has been caused to your friends puppylover

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 10:50

464 members to date - good innit???

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
02/06/2011 02:56

I believe to make an impact

you need a website

or more members on face book

maybe you should start a HISS site ?

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
02/06/2011 03:04

philbailey I think you are right but we will need help. I am a Luddite any takers?



We are starting a petition see NCFP

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
02/06/2011 03:10

We know you are a luddite

you had a "t" in your e-mail

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
02/06/2011 07:26

Yeah philbailey - but did pollymarples put it there - we all know that was impossible especially for a Luddite, a. she would never have been accepted as a member with such an error. b. with such an obvious bob boo having taken place, Mr. Moderator should have been able to work that out when he tried to e mail a very long time after she had been accepted as a member and had been posting regularly. Never mind she is now happy posting on a forum where they accept her limitations, or she will be when it recovers from it's unwarranted attack. She does spend long periods on the naughty step.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
02/06/2011 08:17

There is now a Petition running alongside the Stop the Blackmail in North Cyprus facebook Group.



link to details http://northcyprusfreepress.com/2011/06/01/stop-the-blackmail-in-north-cyprus-english-and-turkish-petition/



There has been slight hitch in getting the onlne version up and running but when it is a link will be given.



If this does not work can one of you big kind men or petiite ladies help me. I cannot get the link to turn blue.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
02/06/2011 18:07

I underestimated myself.

kibrisvisitor


Joined: 28/05/2011
Posts: 98

Message Posted:
02/06/2011 18:14

The response from the vocal minority on here is astounding .....

juliamoons



Joined: 14/05/2009
Posts: 849

Message Posted:
03/06/2011 09:42

On line version up and running, here is the link. http://www.louder.org.uk/kulaksiz5/

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 08:14

Thanks Julia - please all of you who have problems - sign.



All of you who do not (how do you know, have you checked?)

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
04/06/2011 20:36

Numbers up again. Now lets get the Petitions doing the same.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
15/06/2011 11:12

The membership is now 528 and the group now has the official support and blessing of EMBARGOED and ATCA

(Association of Turkish Cypriots Abroad)

nirma1230


Joined: 15/06/2011
Posts: 1

Message Posted:
15/06/2011 13:52

thnak you, for result just visit to http://www.result.pk

the matric result 2011 is announced students can see their result now

Garythegeezer


Joined: 05/02/2007
Posts: 102

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 12:31

MSG 71: How are Don & Sheila keeping?

They were kind enough to help my Wife & I even though their problems far surpassed ours.



Regards

Gtg

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
17/06/2011 00:04

ohmaintenance message 9

'Has it not occured to you that Not every one who is living in north cyprus has problems or a horror story to tell,some of us conducted due diligence,some never, some unlucky,some i believe will want a peaceful life and not want to be involved in other peoples problems.'



If I ever see you getting mugged,I will be sure to cross to the opposite side of the street as I dont ''want to be involved in other peoples problems'' .After all nobody is mugging me!



'Has it not occured to you' that some day YOU might need support from others and the reason why injustices go unchanged in NC is that the powers that be know that people like you dont give a s--t as to what happens to anyone as long as thy are not directly affected,so why should they attempt to address grievances themselves.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
06/07/2011 10:43

The majority of victims had an Advocate, followed the law to the letter and observed due diligence.

The only difference is that they were unlucky, whereas those who smugly maintain it is the victms own fault were lucky. That is the only difference. You cannot guard against what happens after you have observed all the rules.



Real reason for this post. Membership now stands at 619, if you are a victim and havent joined, I urge you to think about it. If you are not a victim but sympathise with those that are, I urge you to think about joining.



I totally respect the right of anyone who does not want to join, does not want to be involved and does not want read about it. It is obvious what this thread is about.



Never give in, never give up.

flowerfairy


Joined: 17/09/2008
Posts: 1277

Message Posted:
06/07/2011 11:04

My poor husband now has 146 messages from you on his email. How the hell do I stop this????????????????/

This is no joke, both of us have been invaded by this post.

I have now deleted every email from his account, I just hope there was nothing important in between all of yours.

STOP THIS, WE DID NOT WANT TO RECEIVE YOUR NOTIFICATIONS.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
06/07/2011 12:18

Flowerfairy It is regularly put on the page - Click onto Edit setting (top left of page) You will then see boxes with ticks, untick the boxes and no more e mails will be received. You were told this when you complained before, your husband has been told this on the page. Please be aware, if you did not join the group then one of your facebook friends must have put you on, definitely NOT me because as you know we are not friends on facebook and there are only two ways for you to join 1) at your own request 2) a well meaning friend added you.



So when you say the messages are from me,. you actually mean they have arrived from the Facebook group as a result of one of the two events happening above and not from me personally.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
06/07/2011 12:33

SORRY FLOWERFAIRY - Edit Settings is on the top right of the page as you look at it. I have put the instructions on the Stop the Blackmail in North Cyprus facebook Group page again. Strangely only a very small number of people have complained.



The group have no wish to upset or offend anyone and if you join but do not wish to receive e mails then the method I HAVE GIVEN WILL stop them.

birdman



Joined: 20/09/2010
Posts: 690

Message Posted:
06/07/2011 23:47

Pauline, on some computers, mine is one of them, the "EDIT SETTINGS " is NOT in the top right hand corner of the page !

On my computer it comes up UNDER the post. Took me awhile to find it as I was directed to look in the wrong place!!! LOL



Gerry

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
07/07/2011 17:00

Okay,. but looking for it isn't rocket science, now is it? It obviously is on the page and seek and ye shall find.



birdman they only had to come back and tell us and then a kind soul like you would have helped.

araneae


Joined: 24/06/2011
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
07/07/2011 17:15

some find it easier to bleat on here and hiss than help or put their head above the parapit less they are seen to rock the boat.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
23/07/2011 10:39

Membership is now 655 good steady growth.



If you swish to join us, please dd, you are all welcome.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
31/07/2011 15:56

SUNDAY 31st July 2011 Today the membership reached 800/ still a vast majority of Turkish Cypriiot members/



Sevilla owners = join us because you are definitely being blackmailed/ we cannot promise anything but since you have nothing to lose/ join us and make a noise.



It is a year and a day since Akfinans broke into my villa and criminally repossessed it/ what other soi called civiilised country wouuld allow that.



Name them and shame them/ dont throw more good money at the parasites

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
01/08/2011 10:39

There is a Press Release in both Turkish and English on NOrth Cyprus Free Press some of you might find interesting.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
23/08/2011 13:10

membership now over 900 overwhelmingly Turkish Cypriots e.g voters or those than can influence voters, yippeee doooooooooooooooo.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
29/08/2011 06:20

Today this group achieved the magical number of 1000 members.



If anyone is interested.

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
29/08/2011 07:34

We joined a few weeks ago -we have received some useful advice as we are taking our developer to court.



The developer is Robert Stephen Homes Ltd and we would like to hear from anyone who has had dealings with this company.



The director is Robert Cooper but his father Steve Cooper and his UK financial director Neil Blenkin are the main protaganists.



Thanks

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
29/08/2011 09:16

MAGICART iF THERE IS ANY WAY THE COMMITEE CAN HELP, we will. Just ask. Inbox Pauline or Pembe

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
29/08/2011 12:39

Misunderstood,



Many thanks-willl let you know after the 15th Sept -1st stage of litigation.



It really does help to have some support and our thought go with the K5 and others who are worse off than us.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
29/08/2011 13:15

Congratulations John and Pauline on your Facebook 1000 members and still growing

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
05/10/2011 10:28

Membership now stands at 1201



magicart - hope all went well in court on the 15th Sept. xx

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
05/10/2011 12:06

Thanks for your kind words.



We havn't got to court yet but we have started legal proceedings!



Will keep you informed.



Art

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
05/10/2011 12:20

Oh my thoughts go with you, what a path you have to embark on, remember, if there is anything I can do, inbox me on facebook.

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
05/10/2011 19:34

We are taking our UK developer to court because after 4 years of lies and deceite its our only option.Despite his numerous promies's he has failed to transfer our Title Deeds or to honour our builders guarantee.His plan is quite simple-he will not transfer our deeds unless we drop our claim for the cost of the remedial work neccessary to put our Villa right -in other words he will try to horse trade our deeds against the cost of the remedial work which is a considerable sum of money.This is just a blackmail tactic because there is no law in the TRNC which can force him to transfer the deeds so we have to take him to court for full breach of contract.He also knows that if he offers to transfer our deeds and he agrees to paying a small amount of compensention, for the remedial work ,the court will probably recommend that we accept it-so financially its far better for him to go to court and tough it out.If we decide not to accept his offer we then move to a court hearing.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
05/10/2011 19:41

As always, we would not give in to builder blackmail.



Principle is important, Its a question of personal integrity. However corrupt the system.



We stand four square, with people who uphold standards. Its not an easy path.



May your God go with you!



wynyardman

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
06/10/2011 08:22

Thanks,



We will not allow this developer to blackmail us either.



If necessary we will take him through the full litigation process and we will expose his antics in the UK.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
08/10/2011 09:18

http:/www.facebook.com/groups/sayno2blackmai/



l

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
12/10/2011 00:10

Msg 114, uk developer?

can you noy go down the G Robb route ?

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
12/10/2011 08:35

This is being considered!!

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
12/10/2011 09:54

Good magicart, do it, these fatherless ones must be stopped and only ACTION can stop them.



HISS will be fatal to those who still do not seek the cure - The cure is simple, stand up, shout and be counted.

If you have to go down, go down fighting.



NEVER GIVE IN NEVER GIVE UP.



Silence is not golden, it is deadly.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
13/10/2011 12:00

Membership now 1313 and climbing. Better than we ever expected. but still too few foreigners, nearly all Turkish Cypriots.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
15/10/2011 07:31

Yesterday the 14th October marked the first anniversary of the incarceration of Laura Laptop.



It is now a year since 4 police officers descended on my home and took Laura away, despite the promise of returning her within two weeks, she still languishes in GIrne nick. I still haven't been charged with a crime.



Another example of the blackmail here, the intimidation, the attempt to stop me writing, to shut me up. Oh dear, that WORKED well didn't it?

stevie-d



Joined: 13/07/2007
Posts: 1420

Message Posted:
15/10/2011 15:07

Bttt



Stevie-d

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
15/10/2011 17:57

Sorry stevie-d.

just worked it out, I agree back to the top but I don't think too many will be interested. Sorry for being so slow.

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
10/12/2011 10:00

Well we arer still up and running 1363 members, mostly Turkish Cyps.

oliveoil


Joined: 16/03/2008
Posts: 58

Message Posted:
10/12/2011 11:56

Count me in

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 00:45

Where is Pollymarples?

have not seen her post recently

astro941


Joined: 22/05/2011
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 14:21

Who is the moderator of the facebook group? I feel that one of my posts has been censored, it would have been nice to have been notified of the reason and to have debated its relevance! I have now removed my support from this group.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 21:36

I agree philbailey! many have missed her posts including me! and also her blogs on NCFP!



Please let us all know you are ok Pollymarples?



astro941 (mess 128)



I am sure you would NOT be censored by anyone on Stop the Blackmail Facebook Group least of all by Pollymarples

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
26/02/2012 15:23

now up to 1,435 and growing, about to grow even more I am told.

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
26/02/2012 15:29

Glad you rejoined the group astro941, I understand Pauline was away from 21st Jan to 2nd Feb 2012. She is so paranoid apparently she never tells anyone until she returns. Reading about what faced her when she did return, perhaps they really are out to get her!

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
26/02/2012 23:00

keep on growing

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
27/02/2012 07:35

In unity lies strength....never give in never give up.

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
27/02/2012 09:41

Boyut

Kulaksiz

Armacon

Sea Terra

Tutuska

any more please..............

SuziSuz


Joined: 13/07/2010
Posts: 135

Message Posted:
27/02/2012 12:06

Aga Development

Britannia Construction (another Robb Company)

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
27/02/2012 14:21

Sercem



Santa Fe



Nokta



Any more takers (pun totally intended)

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
23/03/2012 06:20

Stop the Blackmail in North Cyprus facebook group has just reached the 1500 membership. It is hard work trying to raise awareness but we keep battling on. This group is for each and every victim of the Property scams that are blighting our beautiful country. Long live the TRNC, death to corruption, nepostism, cronyism and blackmail. We also thank those who join to give support and encouragement.



Thank you to all the existing members and those who would join, you rock.