turkish internet big brother is going to watching you after the 22.08

andrew4232



Joined: 04/07/2009
Posts: 1543

Message Posted:
13/05/2011 10:51

what's your views i found this link and its also been in the turkish press this week



http://cyberlaw.org.uk/

TinLondon


Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 171

Message Posted:
13/05/2011 11:39

I think this should be a choice individuals make for themselves to protect their family from certain types of internet content and not something that is dictated from the state. We have a similar thing at work where employees have full access to the internet but certain pages you would expect your employees not to look at during working hours are blocked. But who decides what's suitable and what's not? An odd one we've come across at work was that we were unable to view the weeks winning lottery numbers as it was classed as gambling, but this has since been corrected.



I think Turkey had a similar filter once on YouTube, not sure if it's still in place, but in the age of smart phones, numerous software that will bypass these filters, I think Turkey will stuggle to implement such an idea. I think it will just be used to promote anything that's Turkey or Erdogun - A Google homepage with erdogun looking at you through the double O's

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
13/05/2011 11:42

Interesting comment here on this issue

http://ricochet.com/main-feed/August-22-The-Day-the-Internet-Will-Die-in-Turkey

Have to say I love the clsoing comment



"I'm not completely sure how to interpret this, but two hypotheses come to mind:

1) Ordinary Turkish citizens are finally developing the self-confidence to say, "Enough with the censorship. Enough."

or:

2) You can mess with a lot of things, but not a man's porn."



My personal view is that there is a real concern that such a system will be used to supress dissent, rather than protect people from unwanted content. What makes it more worrying is that it will be an offense to bypass such filtering. Stopping kids comming accross unwanted pornograhy and the like is one thing. Seeking to supress dissent is another entirely. I hope this does not go through or if it does it is eventualy reversed after the fact.

Tango1


Joined: 19/02/2011
Posts: 1151

Message Posted:
13/05/2011 12:10

However there is another view point. Should people at work be surfing the net in the first place if their position within a company doesn't warrant i? Just a thought.



Tango1

AllyTT


Joined: 13/09/2008
Posts: 188

Message Posted:
13/05/2011 13:49

Tango1- in which case it's up to the business to implement a filter, not the state. Turkey's Prime Minister was once asked about the "youtube ban" while it was still in place and his reply said it all really: "I access youtube, why can't you?".. Just like the PM, we all avoided the bans but now avoiding them will not only be more difficult it will also be an offence. A real step back for Turkey as far as most are concerned. The reasons given for the ban are even more worrying as it gives some indication of what will be blocked. Apparently instead of supervising our children and implementing our own filters for child safety, the state filters will handle it all. For example - Facebook is also mentioned as a threat to children, while that may be so - is it really up to the state to decide who can and can not access it?

Not sure what the ban will mean for the TRNC, but as I live in Istanbul I will be at the protest on Sunday at Taksim. Let's hope they come to their senses before August.

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
13/05/2011 21:55

Erolz: "My personal view is that there is a real concern that such a system will be used to supress dissent."

And you have never tried to suppress dissent, for example, on a TRNC forum? Especially by using tactics like starting threads to post people's names and personal details on the internet? It's no wonder some people use different IDs with that kind of despicable behaviour.

Talk about hypocrisy...

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
14/05/2011 06:25

Supressing dissent and exposing deciet are NOT the same thing Zoots. You claim I am doing the former I claim I am doing the later. The proof is all out there.

My record on welcoming and alowing 'dissent' can be seen clearly in the cyprus forum that I helped set up and run. No cyprus forum before or since has removed fewer posts or banned fewer users, whilst maintaining rules for common decency and behaviour.



As to hypocrisy are you EVER going to justify your claim (knowing lie) that "Everyone's civil liberties are protected by the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) - apart from unfortunate foreigners in the TRNC." , given that you constantly call others out to provide evidence for THEIR claims, often bully them accross multiple threads when they do not respond immediatedly , throw jibes about them 'going silent' AND given your lectures to others on 'journalistic accuracy' and ethics.



No I thought not.



Dissent I welcome. Deciet I challenge.

andrew4232



Joined: 04/07/2009
Posts: 1543

Message Posted:
15/05/2011 00:06

not sure if it will apply here in cyprus but all the traffic goes through turkey

IbrahimAbi


Joined: 24/10/2010
Posts: 245

Message Posted:
15/05/2011 10:14

I suspect that it will not apply here as TRNC did not have the Utube ban when it was in place in Turkey

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/05/2011 10:36

Hi ErolZ



re msg 7: I'm guessing Zoots can't reply .. and also guessing he means that foreigners will come second to local re any property settlement.. not that evidence of THAT isn't happening, now



Slightly less off-topic ..



There's new Ka band 2 way sat services going live on which *could* be an answer to folks prayer in 'TRNC' ..



If the Internet provisioning doesn't improve lots of folk are going to be popping over to 'the south' to pick up the kit and route via a European connection

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
15/05/2011 10:41

Banned words have many scratching heads

The effect of the TİB’s request could see the closure of many websites that include a number of words. For example, the website ‘donanimalemi.com’ (hardwareworld.com ) could be banned because the domain name has the word ‘animal’ in it; likewise, ‘sanaldestekunitesi.com,’ (virtualsupportunit.com ) could be closed down because of the word ‘anal.’ Websites will also be forbidden from using the number 31 in their domain names because it is slang for male masturbation.

Some banned English words include ‘beat,’ ‘escort,’ ‘homemade,’ ‘hot,’ ‘nubile,’ ‘free’ and ‘teen.’ Some other English words would also be banned because of their meanings in Turkish: ‘pic,’ short for picture, is banned because it means ‘bastard’ in Turkish. The past tense of the verb ‘get’ is also banned because ‘got’ means ‘butt’ in Turkish. Haydar, a very common Alevi name for men, is also banned because it means penis in slang.

What is turkey becoming.

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
15/05/2011 10:43

Here is a few more words that may be coverd in the ban.

Several words on the list of ‘banned words’ are part of everyday life, e.g. the words Adrianne, Animal, Hayvan (‘Animal’), Baldiz (sister-in-law’), Beat, Buyutucu (‘enlarger’), Ciplak (‘nude’), Citir (‘crispy’), Escort, Etek (’skirt’), Fire, Girl, Ateşli (‘passionate’), Frikik (‘freekick’), Free, Gey (‘gay’), Gay, Gizli (‘confidential’), Haydar, Hikaye, Homemade, Hot, İtiraf (‘confession’), Liseli (‘high school student’), Nefes (‘breath’), Nubile, Partner, Pic, Sarisin (‘blond’), Sicak (‘hot’), Sisman (‘overweight’), Teen, Yasak (‘forbidden’), Yerli (‘local’), Yetiskin (‘adult’) etc.

According to the notification of TİB, domain names containing the words on the list will neither be assigned nor used and access to the existing ones will be suspended.

Sites of supermarkets or football supporters’ clubs affected as well