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0maintenance

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 19:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 87 in Discussion |
| What do you mostly want from a bar/pub/wine bar/restaurant in north cyprus.? If just a wine bar do you want some where comfortable to relax or do you also want some kind of entertainment? What do you want from your night out? Would just a nice clean and comfortable wine bar make you happy to relax in if the prices where very reasonable and the ambiance of the place very homely?comfortable sofas,nice lighting,easy listening background music so you can hear yourself talking? Im very curious as to what folk here are looking for when they venture out in the evenings or after they have had dinner as there is such a large variety of age groups here in the TRNC. Only sensable comments or answers please. |
Lilli


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| I would love to go to a really nice wine bar. Nice sofa, low lights. Champagne on ice. Great music. Not particularly live. Some where you can meet your girl friends and relax. |
rowlo


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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 19:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 87 in Discussion |
| number 4 does it for me . |
Hector

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| "Would just a nice clean and comfortable wine bar make you happy to relax in if the prices where very reasonable and the ambiance of the place very homely?comfortable sofas,nice lighting,easy listening background music so you can hear yourself talking? '' Yes. A view would be a bonus, and a car park. |
Lilli


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| Meet you both there xxx |
rowlo


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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 20:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 87 in Discussion |
| bring your wallet liz, could be a long night xxxx |
Smity


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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 20:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 87 in Discussion |
| A relaxed atmosphere, really cold wine & beer, soft background music and conversation with others |
Lilli


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| Will do rolls, the longer the better. xxxx |
0maintenance

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 20:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 87 in Discussion |
| I personally feel north cyprus is a very difficult market to please. |
No1Doyen

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| "Would just a nice clean and comfortable wine bar make you happy to relax in if the prices where very reasonable and the ambiance of the place very homely?comfortable sofas,nice lighting,easy listening background music so you can hear yourself talking?" That does it for me! |
Hector

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| ''I personally feel north cyprus is a very difficult market to please.'' You did ask. I thought the replies were sensible. |
philbailey

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 20:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 87 in Discussion |
| Will AJ be the Dj? |
Smity


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| nice atmosphere, cold beer, comfoetable seating and soft backgroung music |
rowlo


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| you gonna open this kind of heaven msg1? |
vonny

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 20:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 87 in Discussion |
| Would just a nice clean and comfortable wine bar make you happy to relax in if the prices where very reasonable and the ambiance of the place very homely?comfortable sofas,nice lighting,easy listening background music so you can hear yourself talking? yes,that would appeal to me,forget any kind of karaoke,thats a real killer,Are you thinking of opening one,message 1?if you do,dont just do it for the ex pats,you want to catch the turks/cypriots too, |
0maintenance

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 20:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 87 in Discussion |
| message 11 Hector. i dont mean by the answers to the post,i mean in general the north cyprus market seems hard to please or that is how i see it when i go out. More answers to the post please. |
Pippie

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 20:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 87 in Discussion |
| yes, soft background music on some nights and perhaps one or two nights a week either live music or a theme night - oldies (jive/40s/50s/60s) night, carribean (salsa/mexican/cuban), soul & mowtown, the charts (80s onwards). An area to get up an boogie if you want. Soft lights, clean, bright and airy, smart furniture with some comfy sofas with big cushions. Most important - reasonably priced drinks, ideally with a Happy Hour! Drinks prices on the table. And, next most important, staff with a smile! |
beachsidebum

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 20:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 87 in Discussion |
| Wher do we find such a place? |
beachsidebum

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 20:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 87 in Discussion |
| Oops Where! |
0maintenance

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 20:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 87 in Discussion |
| would you rather a wine bar where you go to the bar and get served when your ready or is it important to have staff floating about taking orders,but of course we know staffing a bar costs wages and thus must be paid for from drinks,would it be better to keep drink prices to a all time very low price and go to the bar when your ready to order your own drinks?? Im not in favour of happy hours but if drinks could be served at a price which is more competative than other bars then maybe no need ever for happy hours. I also agree that the bar should be aimed at the TC market also and not just ex pats. |
0maintenance

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 20:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 87 in Discussion |
| Possibly in catalkoy beachsidebum! |
Hector

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 20:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 87 in Discussion |
| Whatever the venue, people either don't have or are unwilling to pay prices that would make a bar profitable as all too many bars have found to their cost. It's not helped if people are leaving NC. It's not just a TRNC issue, look at the number of pubs in the UK that are closing every day. Social clubs for expats still seem to do well i.e in the south, though. |
rowlo


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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 20:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 87 in Discussion |
| stop teasing us ? just do it , |
waddo

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 20:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 87 in Discussion |
| Is this the wine bar you will open beside the new Dragon take away I wonder???? |
LooseBoots


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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 20:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 87 in Discussion |
| Re Msg 20 . Getting your own wine at the bar is no problem and sometimes preferable to staff touting for more drinks. A chill out zone for ALL , not just expats , would be more than welcome with just background music. Bring it on........ There are enough places with artists or kaioke , if that is what you like. Be nice to have a choice though. |
0maintenance

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 20:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 87 in Discussion |
| I think pubs closing in the UK is a mixture of the clamp down on drink driving and also the smoking bans and a few other factors. The places still catering for families and food seem to be still doing well or surviving,chef n brewer type places,ok its portion controled food and cheap n cheerful but it puts bums on seats. I have visions of a wine bar selling a glass of red or white @ 3TL a glass,a local sprit,but not cyprus local spirit and mixer for 2.5 to 3TL a glass. A real cocktail at around 7 to 8 TL,that includes champagne cocktails.i do not mean a brandy sour! A cup of real coffee from ground beans and not nescafe at around 1.5TL A glass of coke or other carbonated drink @ 1 to 1.5TL fruit juice @ 2 to 2.5TL a glass Im wondering if im dreaming in thinking of prices like these and would prices like this drag in the customers,we all have lost part of our incomes with the lower bank interest rates so im wondering does lower prices mean more people through the doors?? |
rowlo


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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 20:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 87 in Discussion |
| you looking for a partner ? |
0maintenance

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 20:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 87 in Discussion |
| Hi Waddo. No its not,it would be alot more classier than the place near the dragon take away in catalkoy,i dont mean that in a bad way. |
Hector

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 20:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 87 in Discussion |
| I think Lilli has been there and got the T shirt. Whilst I like your thinking on keeping prices low, I can't see how you'd make a profit. You are right about the Chef n Brewer and carvery style pub venues in the UK that offer good value for money. You need the volume to make it pay. |
vonny

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 20:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 87 in Discussion |
| forget,waitresses and waiters,instead of paying for extra staff,keep the drinks at a lower price,im sure people would rather get up and go to the bar,or sit at it knowing the drinks are at a good price |
No1Doyen

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| I don't think cheap prices bring in the punters. People will always pay more if the ambience is good. |
0maintenance

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 21:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 87 in Discussion |
| Over heads in cyprus i think are not so high if you have the customers to support you. I feel to have the customers you have got to offer them some thing in return for there custom,something more than the majority of bars. Drinks in north cyprus in general to buy are alot cheaper than in the UK,wholesale i mean,but in almost every bar the drinks are as expensive or more expensive than the UK,salaries of staff are alot less than back in old blighty. Why do drinks need to be a premium? If you found a nice bar and the prices where as above,would it make you use that bar more regular than you may use a bar at present? If you could go to your local bar with your partner and have lets say 4 drinks for lets say 10 or 12TL would that encourage you to use that bar more regular ?? |
vonny

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 21:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 33 of 87 in Discussion |
| i think if it has a nice atmosphere,people are friendly,it will bring in people if its cheap,looking through some of the threads on c44,people are starting to struggle more,maybe some people cant afford to out like they use to do,For some,having a cheap night out could draw more people to go there,and meet friends ,new and old |
LooseBoots


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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 21:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 34 of 87 in Discussion |
| Msg 26. Like your vision...............sure if the prices are " reasonable " with the right atmosphere, the numbers WILL come through the door. As I said before , it`s a question of choice......if you want loud live music or karioke................or disco..you go somewhere else................. If you want a chill out zone with quiet ambience we will come to yours................. |
0maintenance

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 21:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 35 of 87 in Discussion |
| NO1 Doyen I agree with you but i cannot afford as much as id like to to drink in TTB every night,vodka redbul and a beer around 35TL or a glass of wine 10 or 15TL. I like to have a drink when i venture out,not nurse my drink all night eyeing up the eye candy! Can you afford those prices? Nice ambience should not mean high prices. |
No1Doyen

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 21:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 36 of 87 in Discussion |
| 0maintenance. I understand what you are saying but there are z number of places where you can get cheap drinks but the atmosphere is terrible. It's ok if you're out with the boys for a drink but if you want to take your partner out these are not the places to go. |
Stonehousepub

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 21:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 37 of 87 in Discussion |
| Amanda To be honest you will find it very difficult to achieve any kind of profit with those prices, you may achieve a higher turnover but margins will be very low and in my opinion not worthwhile. Running costs are higher than you may think in the TRNC... Good luck and best wishes |
Deniz1

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| I agree with most comments. I hate Karioke. I never go where that is on. I would like somewhere i feel comfortable going alone where the music is not too loud. I dont think waiting staff are really necessary maybe just a maitr d hovering for a chat with the clients. |
Riddles

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 22:01 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 39 of 87 in Discussion |
| Cheap drinks usually means ...a cheap place, with cheap decor and cheap customers ...you get what you pay for! |
moxie

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 22:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 40 of 87 in Discussion |
| all i can add ...is NO LOUD X X XX FACTOR SINGERS PLEASE there isnt actually anywhere which caters for 35-45 yr olds its either 18 or 60 plus !!!, that may be a good selling point ? |
philbailey

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| These places are also lacking in the UK the problem being most people like crap entertainment do not have the ability to have a conversation shame but true look at the tv Soaps and reality tv ffs Katie Price is a star Unfortunately these idiots are the mass |
0maintenance

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 22:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 42 of 87 in Discussion |
| Message 37 Thanks oziozi. It is difficult to find a happy medium and balance which suits every pocket,looking around it seems only the swankier bars closer to town seem to be doing well,whos prices all are a little on the high side,but seem to be doing quite well. then on the other side of the coin,as NO1Doyen says,going cheap does not bring in the customers,the right balance is critical i understand and all to often you hear people saying,ah its boring in here with nothing on/entertainment,and yet alot say they would rather go to a nice venue with only background music. Its all very confusing to say the least but i am not put off,at the moment!! |
Lilli


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| All I can say is can I have a job please. The answer to my prayers, A great wine bar and a social life xxxxxxxx |
philbailey

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| Liili , what about the bowling place? |
Lilli


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| Phil still waiting for the work to begin xxx Spider yours sound great xxxxxx |
Stonehousepub

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Message Posted: 18/05/2011 22:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 47 of 87 in Discussion |
| msg 42 Amanda If you get a chance pay MEHZAN wine bar a visit in dereboyu Lefkosa.. ozi |
spider

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| Plenty of side table lamps look very nice in a wine bar too Spider,X |
oceana

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| Low light, low and soft music, furnitures to be stretced far from one another to bring a more relaxing atmosphere, no sofas essential, dont need to feel home. The way the staff dress is very important for me. |
Riddles

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| No dogs...or cats (then it would be unique in TRNC) |
0maintenance

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| It is so very interesting to me right now that the majority of replies all seem to agree that or do not mention much about live entertainment and some say there are plenty of places doing some sort of live entertainment,if you dont mind id like you to keep your thoughts coming please. As some 1 else has mentioned above in a post,whats happend to good old conversation these days! When i do go to a bar some times and entertainment is on,it seems a large percentage of the people are not really interested in the entertainment,some are just people watching alot are trying to chat amongst themselves over the loud music. Thanks for all the answers above and if possible keep them coming. |
Deniz1

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| I went to the Dolce Vita on Monday the Gypsy Brothers were there. The majority of people ignored them and the general hubub from the diners over powered the music. Why go to a live music venue if you are not going to listen? Needless to say i left early. |
Harold2555


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| Amanda Don't forget the effect of KDV on those prices. It is effectively a tax on your margin and if you aim for lower prices and therefore margins it can have a big effect. I like the concept very much, hopefully it will become the sort of place where you can drop in and meet up with people you know on the off chance as well as pre planned meetings. Perhaps you could look at wines by the carafe to keep the prices reasonable, and also although the standard wines could be reasonably priced it's always worth having a few higher value wines available and knowledgeable staff to promote their sale. H |
martinD41

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| I would love to see a "Florida Keys" style "TIKKI" bar....................SAX playing in the background.... |
crofter

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| Jazz on an evening but not too late starting and also Jazz on a Sunday lunch/afternoon time could, we think, be popular. Otherwise background chill out music like Cafe Del Mar, low lighting [so many places ruin an atmosphere because the lighting is too bright], reasonable prices and may be decent 'snack' food as opposed to the serving of meals. Knowledgeable, smartly dressed, friendly, happy staff are a definate plus. A good thread Amanda with plenty of positive comments. |
Texas

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Message Posted: 19/05/2011 16:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 56 of 87 in Discussion |
| I would like a pub/bar etc, that was not a shop! I would like lots of small comfortable seating areas, on slightly different levels, so as to obtain some privacy. A few nice log fires for the winter, and lots of shaded areas in the nice garden for the summer. If you can get those demister fans that send out a nice spray of water, even better. Immaculate toilets or forget the ladies. Winter food in winter, BBQ's in the summer. Plenty of different themed evenings. Nice private car park, No TV's, no juke boxes, no karaoke, no bingo, no pool tables, no dart boards and no children; well alright a small kiddies area near the toilets, which is to be sound-proofed! Get staff who know what they are doing. All the local waiters here are very pleasant, but if you're going to open a bar, get the right staff. Just a little thought. Dragon at the Rocks is not cheap, but it's always busy. Why? because it's the best! Places that charge too little do not last. Be different! |
oceana

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Message Posted: 19/05/2011 23:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 57 of 87 in Discussion |
| MartinD41 agree with "sax playing in the background" |
Stonehousepub

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| msg 56 Dragon's offers a unique cuisine within a 5 star hotel enviroment.. A little different to selling local wines & spirits |
deputydawg

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| Surely the likelihood is that if you provided such a welcome facility at the prices quoted as soon as it's popularity and business increased the Landlord would put an end to it all by a swinging increase in rent or, do you propose to have freehold premises ? |
Groucho


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| There's a dilemma for establishments as holiday makers and residents are often looking for different things. To be honest the managers and sommeliers in most places here need to be trained in wine appreciation. OK it's a difficult one in an Islamic country as many staff shun alcohol and consequently a lot of the wine on offer at high prices is simply awful. There seems to be feeling that high price guarantees quality. Nothing could be further from reality here. I know they feel obliged to offer wines of local origin but surely it should not be to the detriment of the business? If the best on offer is Yakut, Çankaya etc. I would say forget it. As for music. A pet hate of mine is walking into a place and the staff instantly crank up the music to a level that makes civilised conversation nigh impossible. |
Groucho


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| cont... It wouldn't be so bad if they asked 'would you like some music?' Then we could say, no thanks we want to talk, or if they only played some gentle music, a little cool or Latin jazz. Certainly not Gansta-rap bass N drums thumping away. We certainly avoid anywhere with Karaoke on offer like the plague. |
0maintenance

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| At one point i thought there was going to be a split in what people wanted,but after reading through all of the posts again this morning it seems the concensus of people almost are looking for the same as myself,some where a little unique,in that i mean in north cyprus,homely,intimate,low lighting,background music,BRING BACK CONVERSATION,No Karaoke,maybe the occasional live band outside,gentle background music. Staff in some kind of uniform with some knowledge of the products that are on offer. Of course and priority ,Clean ,ultra clean toilets. How about food? Small nibbles,tapas/meze kind of food,not turkish,not spanish,in tapas or meze i mean small amounts,snack size. Would it be a place to go to and relax after you have been out for dinner and some where to come to to finish off your night. Does any 1 know the average disposable income here that we allow to entertain ourself and enjoy or what we budget for if we go out for an evening? Please keep your answers coming |
Deniz1

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Message Posted: 20/05/2011 08:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 63 of 87 in Discussion |
| Isnt it good to see a sensible response and no hijacking of the thread. |
0maintenance

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| Ah 1 more question. Would you rather pay as you go or pay your bill at the end of the night.? My self i rather pay as im ordering as it does save some confusion even with a till that has many tab functions. Whats your thoughts please? |
parkview


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Message Posted: 20/05/2011 08:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 65 of 87 in Discussion |
| I like the way bars used to serve carrots, cucumbers in a glass of lemon when you are served your drinks, also some nuts, personally speaking I just think a really nice wine bar that has comfortable seating, nice low lighting, a good choice of wine (and you can get it here now), by the glass and menus on tables with prices on, nice background music, maybe some jazz. I don't think you need live music as there are so many now with this. Also be nice to have somewhere you can dress up a little, I am fed up with karaoke, bright lights, plastic/metal chairs and tables and glass windows everywhere, there is no atmosphere and not somewhere I would want to sit especially for a night out. I personally would be willing to pay a bit extra for the right place. Tango to Buddha is really nice BUT can't bear the music they start playing after 10:30 at night as it turns into club. |
Deniz1

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Message Posted: 20/05/2011 13:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 66 of 87 in Discussion |
| Pay as you go for me. |
ClaireCat44


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| What I personally would want most is a nice, comfortable smoking area (think Shooters, they have nailed this) and a large car park. And not on a main road so I don't have to panic everytime I see a cat or a dog nearby. |
suehowlittle

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Message Posted: 20/05/2011 19:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 68 of 87 in Discussion |
| I wish there was a lovely wine bar with a pianist, playing old classical music. Soft lighting and noise levels which allow conversation. Why, oh why, do people think the Brits only want Karaoke? I have never, nor will I ever go anywhere which is putting on Karaoke, lets leave it to the Japanese who love it. Piano music is so soothing, so relaxing. I would definitely love to go every week to such a venue, Bellapais when it hosts concerts is always sold out, lots of people love to be soothed by piano music. |
No1Doyen

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Message Posted: 20/05/2011 20:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 69 of 87 in Discussion |
| I prefer pay as you go. There's no confusion then. |
Lilli


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| Sue msg 68 i totally agree. If only this place existed here. |
Tango1

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| Clean environment, classy expensive modern furniture. Good chilled wine in "proper" glasses, beautifully lit, a piano playing quietly in the corner (emphasis on the quiet) Nicely dressed clients, no shorts, no Tshirts, no trainers. Waiters who know what they are doing and can answer questions about the wine if asked. In other words A WINE BAR. Ohhhhh well, I can dream I suppose. Tango1 |
Zoots

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Message Posted: 20/05/2011 22:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 72 of 87 in Discussion |
| A French chef and a discreet piano. |
Lilli


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| Tango since this thread started Im dreaming about it, it is so amazing that quite a lot of us want the same things. I cant drink wine unless its in a proper glass. I hate the eggcup glasses they give you here. I was always told you should get 8 glasses of wine per bottle. We were getting 4 if I was lucky (im Heavy Handed). So I did the experiment, our glasses were twice and more the ml size . |
No1Doyen

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Message Posted: 20/05/2011 22:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 74 of 87 in Discussion |
| A piano playing discreetly in the background does it for me also. |
Clarissa2

Joined: 12/06/2009 Posts: 1476
Message Posted: 20/05/2011 22:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 75 of 87 in Discussion |
| Re : Msg 74, Yes, especially if they allow me to play piano ( or grand piano - even better) every time I visit. |
No1Doyen

 Joined: 04/07/2008 Posts: 16617
Message Posted: 20/05/2011 22:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 76 of 87 in Discussion |
| Are you any good on the ivories Clarissa? |
Clarissa2

Joined: 12/06/2009 Posts: 1476
Message Posted: 20/05/2011 22:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 77 of 87 in Discussion |
| Re: Msg 76, I'm clasically trained pianist ( 7 years at Music College). |
Blackbird


Joined: 11/08/2009 Posts: 1432
Message Posted: 20/05/2011 23:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 78 of 87 in Discussion |
| Re message 1 - for us it is The Almond Holiday Village pool bar. Beautiful, peaceful surroundings, good company for chat about...nothing just bar talk...yes the best............. |
No1Doyen

 Joined: 04/07/2008 Posts: 16617
Message Posted: 20/05/2011 23:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 79 of 87 in Discussion |
| Love the Almonds - great family. |
0maintenance

Joined: 22/09/2010 Posts: 2179
Message Posted: 21/05/2011 10:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 81 of 87 in Discussion |
| I dont think Hooters is what people want from looking at the replies,or a benny & jerries kind of themed bar. Thanks for all the replies,if you wish keep them coming please do,if not i have plenty here to reflect on and thanks very much to all who replied with good feedback. |
Deniz1

Joined: 28/07/2009 Posts: 3829
Message Posted: 21/05/2011 17:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 82 of 87 in Discussion |
| If you decide to go ahead i wish you all the best. |
TRNCVaughan

Joined: 27/04/2008 Posts: 4578
Message Posted: 21/05/2011 22:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 83 of 87 in Discussion |
| I don't think most here have been to a Hooters Bar. If one opened here, at least most wives would know where their husbands would be drinking. |
MUSIN M

Joined: 26/06/2008 Posts: 1352
Message Posted: 22/05/2011 01:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 85 of 87 in Discussion |
| the almonds holiday village ali ,devrise and the kids,devrise,s sister is married to my brother. musin long live the kktc |
TRNCVaughan

Joined: 27/04/2008 Posts: 4578
Message Posted: 22/05/2011 07:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 86 of 87 in Discussion |
| msg84, With the greatest respect Amanda, I don't think Hooters Bars are aimed at people like you (Women). |
0maintenance

Joined: 22/09/2010 Posts: 2179
Message Posted: 22/05/2011 10:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 87 of 87 in Discussion |
| Hey Vaughan. Up your hooter ! I also appreciate a beautiful lady,we are not only for the male species to oggle @ Its a good system,dont think the north is ready for it vaughan,maybe the south is. As you say,if there was 1 here in the north,at least if there was ever a problem with an aligator system we know where we could find you |
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