uk jobs go to foreigners ?

kavenkoy


Joined: 10/04/2008
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Message Posted:
19/05/2011 07:22

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3588852/81-of-new-jobs-go-to-foreigners.html



is it low paid work and uk unemployed cant work for that ?



kav

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
19/05/2011 07:38

The most important factor in running a business is employing the right people to get the job done and at a cost that keeps your business competitive.

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
19/05/2011 08:30

The other side of the coin, foreign workers are much more willing to work for a smaller income... I employed Polish Plasterers,they worked harder and longer than the local "spreads" and did a superior job...............No contest...Sad but true....

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
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Message Posted:
19/05/2011 08:38

It was the same in the late 60s and early seventies in the northwest of england,many pakistanis came to work in the cotton mills on night shift as local people would not do the 14 hour shifts and did not want to work in such a hot sticky cotton mill.



Foreign workers are always needed in the UK.

kavenkoy


Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 1787

Message Posted:
19/05/2011 08:59

every country needs foreign workers ,i would agree.



is that "class of labour force" exploited by some employers then ?



amercia loves to be tough on immigration ,yet allows illegal mexican fruit pickers over the border as locals wont pick fruit for the wage ....eg ?



kav

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
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Message Posted:
19/05/2011 09:04

Maybe it is.



Look who gathers the cockles from the sandy beaches in the UK,90% chinese and vietnamese.



Would we do it ?

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
19/05/2011 10:00

msg5...I suppose any employer who needs to show a profit, is, to some extent, exploiting the work force,it's just a matter of degrees ..... My lads were well paid,and produced quality and quantity...............and a profit............ ...........

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
19/05/2011 11:20

The Eastern Europeans do a job that our British work force turn up there noses too! Its unfortunate that most now in GBdon't want to do the same sort of work that these E.E people do.

If employers were to pay more than the min wage on a lot of the menial work, you would see food prices etc rise. We cannot have it both ways.



Nothing would please most employers to be able to employ British workers, but they would not do the job even if you paid top whack! the answer you get is, 'we have been to Uni', or got 'higher education', we don't like doing that, so wont do it... In other words, most want an easy job....

kavenkoy


Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 1787

Message Posted:
19/05/2011 11:33

message 7



i agree to produce quality ,quantity and profit .....not allways easy though



message 8



some large retailers exploit foreign workers and import in large scales to gain more profit .

for instance my father in law lived in spain ....large uk supermarkets proudly bought all the land up off the locals and grew their own fruit .Locals still were paid local rates for picking ,large supermarkets in question relaese even bigger record profits



kav

ilk22


Joined: 18/05/2011
Posts: 136

Message Posted:
19/05/2011 11:37

For those that except low paid jobs boils down to SURVIVAL, for those that exploit this workforce also boils down to SURVIVAL. It's a funny old World! To put an end to this would result in person trying to survive on low income suddenly has no income, and those exploiting would up prices and lose sales, hence putting business at risk. We the consumers are the ones that determine the fate of these people. Will you pay more for your goods or service???? Or, are you a real bargain hunter, be honest with yourself.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
19/05/2011 11:58

msge 10



"Will you pay more for your goods or service???? Or, are you a real bargain hunter, be honest with yourself"



Its a good point.



At the end of the day globalisation is splitting society in to two distinct groups



1) The skilled technological worker who can command high wages. With the high wages comes autonomy recognition, status, mastery and a sense of purpose. These are all the ingredients for a long successful, happy and healthy life.



2) The unskilled worker, who has to compete ruthlessly with other unskilled workers ( migrants) vying for boring, tough and low paid work, work that is devoid of meaning. These jobs are scarce because they are increasingly being done by robots or are being outsourced. These workers have low incomes, no control over their work, no purpose, no mastery or autonomy. They are destined to live their life in poverty, often plagued by bouts of depression and anxiety. Their only immunity is have large familys. The only solace will be in f