Hypothetically, what would happen

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 00:09

If all the Brits left the north?

Lilli



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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 00:12

The supermarkets would close, restaurants would close, banks you have to rethink. I cant imagine what would happen xxxx

vonny


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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 00:15

i doubt if very much would change,

Blackbird



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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 00:15

They would send more Turks from the mainland as they have done before...

philbailey


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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 00:16

Yorgi, would get a bigger farm

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 00:33

I agree with Liz, I think a lot of businesses would be forced to close down.

philbailey


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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 00:37

How mant ex-pats in N/Cyprus

approx?

berilela


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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 07:20

we could always do a stand and ALL brits boycott shops for just one day im sure even that would show what we spend in one day what it would be like for them if most went home

martinD41


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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 07:27

A repeat of pre 74.......................:(

Groucho



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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 07:34

Msg 8, not if they all went and bought double the next day.

A 'stay-at-home week' maybe they'd notice. Cook all your own meals use only what you have in your cupboards.... well you know they need re-cycling anyway! don't stock-up in advance. Only buy essentials if you run out of milk etc.

Deniz1


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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 07:35

A friend of mine suggested a boycott of all supermarkets by brits for a couple of days in protest about the kocan problem. He said hit them where it hurts in the pocket. The government wont do anything so outside pressure may help he said.

Visitor


Joined: 19/08/2010
Posts: 492

Message Posted:
20/05/2011 07:38

There would be alot of abandonned pets!



Slice bread would disappear as would baked beans and soggy veg.



Cyprus 44 would probably disapear or have to buy a Russian keyboard

yrret


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Posts: 761

Message Posted:
20/05/2011 08:03

Stopping shopping at one outlet for a day or two will do nothing, it's just like a short holiday.

Best way is to either:

Choose a shop, and no-one use it for a whole month, then move onto the next one etc etc. A pattern would then develop for the shops, but if shopping done this side at other shops, KDV would remain unchanged so no end result.

So, best way is ALL shop south for 6 months.

At same time, don't use ANY restaurants or pubs, as these all generate and pay KDV.

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
20/05/2011 08:06

@ msg 1, No1Doyen: (...) If all the Brits left the north? (...)

▶ Some expats have to think about your question, Bill. Well, I guess some expats would be sorry if ALL the Brits left.

Pugwash


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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 08:24

I dont think it would make such a big difference to a lot of places, some places that rely mainly on expat trade would suffer very badly but the Supermarkets I use are about 75% local trade, much the same with the banks, shops would just stop selling the expat items. Some bars and restaurants are mainly expat, but very many are not, it is just that a lot of you do not visit those. Things would change but life would go on much the same.

Carndi


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 613

Message Posted:
20/05/2011 09:36

When Royal Air Force Manby closed down the loss to the local town, Louth, was several millions per year, but the loss of jobs was harder to bear and that is what would happen if there was a boycot of the shops here..

The knock on effect would be felt by all other trades etc.

If there was an attempt to shop in the south then they, the Government, would tighten up on searches and confiscation of goods.

A large percentage of money spent in supermarkets leaves the area but a hig percentage in small local shops stays in the area,employing other local businesses so it would be better to focus on them along with restaurants. it would have to be longer than a week.

If everyone restricted themselves to the very basic requirements each week it would take longer but would be felt and may make those concerned sit up and take notice. Half the number of times you go out to a resaurant each week.

cyprusman3



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Posts: 297

Message Posted:
20/05/2011 10:33

The % of Brits here is minimal !!! Lets not kid ourselves lol

brumboy


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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 10:54

Re; mess 17



But the % of money they spend is not minimal, and would greatly effect the local (already ailing) economy !

dippersgirl



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Posts: 795

Message Posted:
20/05/2011 12:18

I think the loss would be short term, 12 month later, a new set of people, different food in supermarket.

The loss of holidaying Brits would be worse!!



I buy nearly all local food here, the one thing I miss most is Filter coffee, but then Lemar have let me down there recently anyway.

Maybe I know nothing, being only 1 of half a dozen Brits(and not proper English at that) in Dipkarpaz. Now don't all rush to come and live here, please. I like it this way!!

waddo


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Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
20/05/2011 14:07

So how many "Brits" are you talking out has got to be the first question - not how many have holiday homes but how many actually live here on a permanent basis?

Lets say there are 600,000 TRNC permanent people - both legal and illegal need to be counted in. At best there maybe 15,000 "Brits" living across the whole of the TRNC. They all leave at once, 585,000 are left to struggle on!!!!

Impact would be almost none apart from some minor area's where the "Brits" are in great concentrations. When you look at the "Brit" produce on sale across the range of super markets I doubt that it is only "Brits" that actually buy it all - so a small reduction in purchases would have no real effect at all. Some bar's would suffer and close for sure but no real effect on prices would be felt. Loss of some income to the government would only result in a new law being passed to compensate and it is doubtful that the banks would suffer at all.

Greeks would have one less thing to moan about!

ClaireCat44



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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 14:11

It would revert to what is used to be. Unspoilt and cheap.

ClaireCat44



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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 14:19

Sorry! Was trying to do too many things at once. What I meant was that it would revert back to what it used to be. Unspoilt and cheap. (and with no awful kareoke either).

ImnEr


Joined: 11/05/2010
Posts: 76

Message Posted:
20/05/2011 14:19

No more posts by whingeing Brits trying to turn NC into GB with sunshine

ClaireCat44



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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 14:30

The Sun, sorry Star Newspaper would go out of business, Thank God. There would be no bars full of Brits and therefore they would have nothing to fill their pages.

cyprusman3



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Posts: 297

Message Posted:
20/05/2011 14:54

oh dear what a shame never mind lmao

philbailey


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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 15:42

Who would buy the properties?

Tango1


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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 16:07

95.0% of the Charities would stop immediately and the wealthier TC's would have to turn around and buy a few less Mercs and BMW's. The poor, the sick and the disadvantaged would probably be ignored and left to fend for themselves as the wealthy TC's would probably do nothing, which is why the majority of charities were formed in the first place.



Tango1

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
20/05/2011 16:21

I'm afraid Tango1 is right. The charity work would fold. The beaches would be left to rot under the litter. The abandoned/stray dog problem would escalate (KAR would end). The ambulance service would lose it's financial support. Cyprus Today would probably close. The crooks that benefited from the British expats would be free from bad publicity to look for new victims from other countries like Russia and China. The state sponsored workers or retired and politicians wouldn't notice.

vonny


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Posts: 476

Message Posted:
20/05/2011 16:22

LOL some of you Brits sure do love to dream.Do you believe that its down to you lot that northern cyprus is surviving,The only businesses that would be effected would be the british run businesses who cater for mainly brits,but if all the brits returned,then they would return too,so who would miss it.There are plenty of places here run by TC's and doing pretty well

ClaireCat44



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Posts: 739

Message Posted:
20/05/2011 16:29

Spot on, Message 29. Obviously most of you have no idea what it was like here before the influx. It was fine before, and it would be fine again.

walkerscott


Joined: 13/08/2009
Posts: 901

Message Posted:
20/05/2011 16:30

It may well help me get decent solo prices staying in hotels ...

and all that work I've put into my website would be wasted :-(

there would be a great number of properties to let as the sudden availability of huge numbers of properties would affect property values.

Hmm, ... working for a think tank is fun!

Pugwash


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Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
20/05/2011 16:37

Ah the great British public, always know best, always better than the foreigner and always indispensable, I think not somehow.

Hector


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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 17:51

As a matter of interest just how many expats are there still living full time in North Cyprus? If so many have already left, the original question has already been answered.

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 17:54

Pugwash

Message 32:



Spot on.

delikomsu



Joined: 27/10/2010
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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 18:32

The Esentepe Fun Run in April, which was organised and run by Brits ( although many local TC's of course took part) has been one of the largest single donations to Cancer Charity here in TRNC ever. A fantastic achievement. This type of selfless voluntary giving of time and energy is one thing we Brits are good at. That would be missed!

Ailletoo


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Posts: 1003

Message Posted:
20/05/2011 19:50

I agree with Clairecat entirely, especially about the awful Karaoke.

Zoots


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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 19:52

They love animals and raise money for charities but happily grab other people's properties. Strange one, that. A unique race.

newscoop


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Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
20/05/2011 20:09

Well before Kofi Annan had his plan there were less than 400 Brits on the island, very few Mercs and Beemers were on the road, and local produce and crafts were reasonably priced. The BRS was even then involved in fund raising while the govt was only concerned with buying a new fleet of Mercs every year.



We all know what happened next;



The die is set now for better or worse, if the Brits left someone else would take their place.

Pippie


Joined: 02/12/2009
Posts: 1288

Message Posted:
20/05/2011 20:39

"But the % of money they spend is not minimal, and would greatly effect the local (already ailing) economy !"



This statement is spot on but really people is it fair to try to take revenge on a community of people who have no choice but to pay KDV. It's not their fault, it's the government. Any business must pay KDV on their products so they have to pass that on to the consumer to stay in business.



Surely the first stage would be to stop people spending their money in the south. If everyone bought here, the economy could start to recover and the government would then be in a position to rethink its position on regulations and unfair charges.



It's a 'chicken and egg' situation but unfortunately the government are stronger than us. It won't work if we try to confront them or boycott them, they're just too stubborn (can't see past the end of their noses). In order to make things better we have to take positive steps, not negative ones.

LaptaMike


Joined: 07/10/2009
Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
20/05/2011 21:33

ClaireCat44, I wish you would stop posting. Every time I see your pic I get over excited ;-)





I realise this post will probably be deleted and I will get a short ban. It is only friendly banter though. xxxx



>>>>>I've not deleted the post but amended it<<<<<<<

Zoots


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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 23:25

LaptaMike,

I hope there's no "Grantham's stalactites" hanging from your computer.

LaptaMike


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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 23:41

Zoot's lol. Who ever amended my post has made it worse than I posted.

Visitor


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Message Posted:
20/05/2011 23:54

The Greeks would be pleased, if you all left.

yorgozlu



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Message Posted:
21/05/2011 00:28

philbailey,re 5;

No need to get jelaous,all you need to do is ask and I'd help you built one as well.

It's all fine at my end now that ex-russian has gone (the one that helped me built it but also same one that complained about it).I showed him my thumb but he must've not liked what he read!

I've even got ready of the cockerel,too.

yorgozlu



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Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
21/05/2011 00:29

Attention all;

I confirm that,the poster of msg 37 was NOT me.

LaptaMike


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Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
21/05/2011 00:33

hey Sal, no long no speak. You ok mate? Might have a bbq for a few friends in a few weeks, this is your invite

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
21/05/2011 00:52

Mike,stop broadcasting on a public forums that I might have a Brit friend .................or 2.I'd hold you responsible if it damages my reputation,you know.

YFred


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
21/05/2011 01:11

We are all full of our own importance in the circle of life, but unfortunately we are not that important. Market will deterime what happens and perhaps us Cypriots can afford to buy property in Girne again, but that's another story.



Now that I have taken the fez off, I doubt that it will ever happen, in the same way that we can never leave London. We all live in a golden cage wishing to be outside and free. The grass is always greener on the other side.

LaptaMike


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Message Posted:
21/05/2011 14:53

oops sorry Sal

Hector


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Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
21/05/2011 19:08

This anti Brit sentiment being expressed really saddens me.

The 'it's your fault that you have been badly treated/conned etc ' 'and do you really think you are important?' mentality along with 'if you all leave it wont make any difference' attitude does nothing to improve relations or help the ailing Cypriot economy. Don't forget, every dissatisfied Brit/expat will tell everyone they know, which is understandable. They may be small in numbers overall but they still pack a punch. What has or will it cost the economy in Cyprus, say in tourism alone? How many jobs have been lost already as expats pack up and leave and tourism collapses?

Visitor


Joined: 19/08/2010
Posts: 492

Message Posted:
21/05/2011 19:39

Hector - what abt the anti Cypriot sentiment. Most of the commons you refer to were made by ex pats!

What do you want people to say ' please don't leave - we need you, we love you' Grow up!

Hector


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Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
21/05/2011 22:00

Visitor

Altan living in France. You simply reinforce my opinion.

yorgozlu



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Message Posted:
21/05/2011 22:24

msg 52 comes from Martin.............living in UK!!

moxie


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Message Posted:
21/05/2011 23:53

i think that the North cypriots dont like Brits very much...after all , we did abandon them! we were the gareentors ? of the island when war broke out !!... but hey im sure the controllers :TURKEY ! will sort it out if the Brits left ...after all TURKEY are the biggest embargoers ever !!

birdman



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Posts: 690

Message Posted:
21/05/2011 23:59

Zoots mess 37

"Grab other peoples properties"

You can't leave it alone can you.?

At EVERY opportunity you lambaste the property purchasers here, implying that they have bought illegal property !

Most of us ex-pats living here, live in NEW properties.

The properties YOU are referring to are the properties occupied by TURKISH CYPRIOTS after they had been EXPELLED from the South or who had fled to escape threats by the Greek Cypriots and were given former GC properties to compensate them for their own losses in the South...

Very Few Brits own the freehold of previously owned Greek property, DO YOU?

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
22/05/2011 00:01

msg 37. Please change the record. (polite request)



will you be moving south soon to be nearer your gc buddies ?

vonny


Joined: 25/06/2009
Posts: 476

Message Posted:
22/05/2011 00:03

i think you're wrong moxie,the cypriots have no problem with the brits moving here,they have welcomed you,BUT the way some of the brits slag them and their country i think all that could change in the future

Zoots


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Posts: 669

Message Posted:
22/05/2011 01:12

Msg 56,

And not be close to Trikomo? ;)

Zoots


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Message Posted:
22/05/2011 01:14

birdman msg 55: "At EVERY opportunity you lambaste the property purchasers here, implying that they have bought illegal property!"

Only the ones who have bought illegal property. ;)

Visitor


Joined: 19/08/2010
Posts: 492

Message Posted:
22/05/2011 07:42

Hector you should read the 'expat' French forums.

Full of moaning Brits, lets see High taxes, having to pay for health care, cost of living, animal welfare....



Lets not forget the Australians coined the word whinging poms!



True TRNC is a mess. But you chose to move to a state that is unrecognised, cannot trade has no access to international institutions. A country where territory is under dispute. Yes Birdman ' homes given to refugees'

not to foreigners. Where is your moral right to live or occupy someone else's property.

These should never have been sold!



I would never buy a house or land that is under dispute. There are still active claims in Germany, Poland for the homes lost in WW2.

begonia


Joined: 19/05/2009
Posts: 229

Message Posted:
22/05/2011 12:52

message 13. I'm speechless. You suggest boycotting all Cypriot businesses thus bancrupting them. Do you intend to include the Brit shops and bars ? You are always whinging about the Cpriots trying to 'con' you. Do you ever wonder why ?

If the recent wave of Brits go back to UK(or Benidorm ) I expect they would manage very well without you.

The last man leaving the Island please turn of the karaoke .

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
22/05/2011 13:04

Visitor msg 60: "Yes Birdman ' homes given to refugees' not to foreigners. Where is your moral right to live or occupy someone else's property. These should never have been sold!

I would never buy a house or land that is under dispute. There are still active claims in Germany, Poland for the homes lost in WW2."

Couldn't have said it better myself. Who wants to feel like a cockroach with bad karma for the rest of their lives?

Tiggy


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Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
22/05/2011 20:40

Pike, i just knew you could not ignore me for to long!



have you taken the cops to court lately?



love the way you abide by rules and regs........great to have a public servent like you keeping us all feeling safe.



lol,



XXXX