Who can you trust?

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 19:48

Before you express an opinion let us first think GB/TRNC..



Thanks to a Rothschild, blowing the whistle , we now learn that two guests enjoying his hospitality on a Billionaire (Russian) mega million pound yatch, off Corfu, are wait for it.

Lord Mandelson (Doyen of spin and New Labour) and your friend and mine Mr Osborne

Shadow Chancellor ( doyen of The Conservative Party) (WITH SINCERE APPOLOGIES TO No 1Doyen). The whole bloody lot have got their snouts in the trough!



So where do you go to live to escape all this corruption, deceit, spin, underhanded, behind your backs manipulation?



The TRNC or GB, or is there a country where you can find good old fashioned quality of life.



Is there anywhere were you can respect your fellow man, live with a clear conscience, and



be true children of the universe.?



We have spent Billions baling out the DISHONEST bankers, and what will the working man get? TH



Daily we see the arguments of where you can attain a decent quality

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 19:51

I trust you wyn..........

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 19:54

I despair at our options! We have little choice! Slease if you vote for the one shower, and



more slease if you vote for the loosers.



Now I have a much vaunted solution! Efes and more Efes! In iced glasses.



Some come on Guys I NEED INSPIRATION!



Where do you live, who do you vote for?



Suggestions please !



wyn

wynyardman



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Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 19:55

Jock!



You are a very wise man..........The cheques in the post!



wynd!

elko2



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Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 19:57

Suggestions? Have an Efes on me Wyn

ismet

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 19:59

I trust your ok wyn !

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 19:59

You can trust me.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 20:05

'absolute power corrupts absolutely'.

It happens all over the world Wyn. It's not a British problem but a human issue.



The system and structure needs to change. The trouble is that the system is held together by those that are currently benefiting from it.



From what I understand Singapore spends an inordinate amount of time ensuring that their next premier is intellectually, emotionally and worldly astute as well as being incorruptible.



Our political system encourages the machiavelian, the workaholic, chameleon and smiling assasin - in other words the dysfunctional.



In any case Wyn just chill, things are not going to change anytime soon

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 20:06

Elko 2,



Cheers!



cooper,



Hes tried to steal my name..............................Just like that! Are you New Labour or Tory?



Bring back public flogging, the cat and nine tails, hanging! Ahrrrrrrr!





I would not believe Osborne if he swore on a ring of black pudding!



really angry of Wynyard!

Oilman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 225

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 20:07

There are several; essential qualities for politics in the UK [or anywhere else for that matter]



1] The libido of a buck rabbit [eg Cecil Parkinson, Paddy Ashdown and even good old John Major apparently.

2] A speach impediment [eg Woy Jenkins]

3] Puclic school education. In this case you can go straight from a good session of buggery to running the country quite seamlessly.

4] Be a compete stranger to the truth. [eg all of them!]

5] When all of these fail change your name to Mendelson and even if you are caught with your hand in the till you can first get a better paying post in European Commission. On top of the life gets even better because you return to the cabinet and get a Knighthood thrown in for good measure.

Oilman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 225

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 20:10

Excuse typographical errors. I get excited about politics! Do you think I should get out more?

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 20:13

ILC,



I love your informative and knowledgeable postings. I respect your balanced opinions, BUT



when it comes to politicians....."The whole lot, are a pack of bastards!"



£150,000 per year PLUS, to represent their constituents, and what do they do........swan and



more swan, unconscionable, and a disgrace to the Country that keeps them.



They should be ashamed!



wyn

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 20:17

Neither wyn i'm with the woolwich !

wynyardman



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Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 20:18

Oilman,



You are one man that I would be happy to share a pint with!



I feel that I could shake hands with you, without having to count my fingers.!



wyn

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 20:23

Politicians suffer the worst possible character trait of all... namely the belief that what they are doing is the best, most powerful and most important job in the world...



They can't understand that not everybody else holds these same views... this makes them blind... in their blindness they stumble from disaster to disaster.

Oilman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 225

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 20:34

Public school bed wetters to a man Wyn!

wynyardman



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Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 20:38

Oilman,



From where I am currently standing........the whole lot are a load of sheets!



wyn

wynyardman



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Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 20:41

Cooper,



I want my bloody name back!. Just like that!



Wyn (Sir John Cooper)

scampy



Joined: 15/01/2008
Posts: 982

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 20:43

Wyn



I only trust myself



I don't vote because they are all liers they just tell you what they think you want to know



So trust in yourself and have a beer....



Susie x

no1doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 20:43

Wyn, sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you can't trust anyone.

Oilman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 225

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 20:46

That's a very jaundiced view no1doyen!!! I remain optimistic about people in spite of many reasons over the years to feel otherwise. I reserve my bile for policitians!

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 20:46

Half the lies they tell aren't true either!



Lem

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 20:46

Scampy,



You could trust me! My wife doesn't understand me.



I get the feeling that you will be alright "down under"



Good luck to you!



wyn

wynyardman



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Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 20:51

Lem,



You speak with tongued fork!



wyn

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 20:55

Wyn..Hip-hip hoorah..I told you in one of my earlier posts that they are as bad as one another. They are all in it for what they can get out of it and it will never change. I bet this episode has just set the Tories back afew points and Cameron Along with Brown will be spitting nails at those two. As for where to go to to avoid all this,I think it would have to be some deserted island in the middle of nowhere, then some bugger will come along and spoil it.So keep your blood pressure down Wynn and just think about the Efes!!!!!

Oilman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 225

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 21:08

By the way it isn't only the MP's who are at. Less publicised is Prince Andrew's new found unsavoury friends in Kazakhtsan. Worked there two years and Prince Andrew's financial misdealings were legendary. I am no apologists for politicians but teh Royal Family do seem to be able to get away with far more without it being plastered all over the media.

Oilman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 225

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 21:12

Ipso facto



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3999117.ece

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 21:16

msge 27 oilman



friend of mine used to work at RAF Northolt. The Royals are constsntly using the planes, treating them like taxis or buses, to fly to places like Norwich, Plymouth etc.

Costing us a fortune.

scampy



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Posts: 982

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 21:20

wyn



I gotta sell the Apt first and the jeep

Then I can go



But thanks anyway



Susie x

Oilman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 225

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 21:21

ILY That is also a well known fact but how often do you hear that conveyed in the news? OK William and Harry get bad press but very few people are actually really critical about them. The royals are also an unelected and outdated body that has no place in modern society.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 21:25

oilman



Off with their heads



I say serve them notice, relinquish substantial amounts of their wealth and tell them to integrate in to society

Oilman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 225

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 21:26

A man after my own hearts. So why is it that the mass of people who support them are pensioners who are liing on the poverty line?

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 21:41

Oilman



I remember going to see the movie the Queen (I went screaming and kicking but a friend insisted) and the cinema was packed with pensioners. Clearly the Royal famil;y is important to them. It has a different menaing for them. In those days there seemed to be a sense of those who are chosen and those who follow. Everyone knew their place and accepted it. The queen also felt it was her duty to serve the people, this fact has been lost on her children.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 21:55

ILC...Just think about the RAF people they are keeping in a job,planes got to be serviced ,pilots and navigators keeping up there flying hours so when they retire they can walk into top flying job with BA. not abad little number on the Queens Flight, seriously though thay do misuse there privalages in that respect

I onse read some where,think it was READERS DIGEST that Queens ROYAL estatyes etc brought in more money to the Treasury than she took out,if so llllllleave her where she is and curtail her waywood family members....

ilovecyprus


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Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 22:08

okay Coachie, we will let her finish of her days as queenie

Coachie



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Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 22:12

ILC..Thats very considerate of you young man.The only thing I dont want is that prat/womaniser son of hers to become King...

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 22:20

It goes against the grain as a life long believer in meritocracy that having a Royal Family has always made Britain a top tourist destination... which brings in loads of money and provides real jobs...



I'd still shoot half of them (joking) come the revolution as having no merit in evidence but the pragmatist in me can't deny they do draw in money and let's face it there are plenty of other filthy rich people who don't have much merit and don't draw in any tourists either.

Coachie



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Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 22:27

Groucho..does that mean you agree????

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 22:30

Don't give up the day job, Wyn!



http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=37QUUwp9xIs&feature=related



Lem

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
21/10/2008 22:37

I agree, we keep the Queen but only as we do a Queen Bee... whilst she is still useful... most of the rest can go get a proper job.



Prince Philip has to stay just to keep us all amused with his foot in the mouth gaffs... he's nearly as funny as Boris King of Londinium...



I draw the line at Bonnie Prince Daffy and Her Royal Ugliness taking up the cudgel should the Queen cop her clogs... which I suppose she must as I'm the only one going to live forever....



I think succession needs to skip a generation and young King Billy should be our next kept man...

kiwi1


Joined: 21/10/2008
Posts: 91

Message Posted:
22/10/2008 13:42

SPELLS TO MAKE GOOD WISHES COME TRUE



hi everyone perhaps you would like to try this:-



Hi I want to share this spell with the people: Put three candles in the highest place you have at home, inside a plate with sugar all around the candles. Light the candles. Ask for three wishes to your guardian angels ST. RAFAEL, ST. MICHAEL, and ST. GABRIEL. Ask one wish for business, one wish for love, and one impossible wish. Publish this spell on the third day after you requested the wishes [by mailing it to another person, posting it to a usenet newsgroup, or announcing your thanks to the saints in a newspaper classified ad] and see what happens on the fourth day...

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
22/10/2008 13:50

kiwi1. Have you tried this? If so, what happened on the fourth day?

Oilman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 225

Message Posted:
22/10/2008 15:20

I can't accept this argument about the Royals being worthwhile because of tourism and it is always trotted out every time somebody wants to justify their existence. Vesailles Palace in France is huge tourist dollar earner and we all know what happened to the previous occupants of that establishment! If that is the only basis for keeping this anochronism alive then it is a very poor argument.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
22/10/2008 17:18

I have the utmost respect for the Queen and for the stability that the monarchy has brought our country through hundreds of years. However I am beginning to feel that the institution of royalty has served its time and is now an unnecessary financial burden on the whole country. They have no powers as such but it's the money that they are entitled to through heritage that I have a problem with. Similarly the same can be said of the Lords. Remove the Monarchy, remove the Lords and move toward a Senate/House of Representatives system which is more in line with a democratically elected and fair system.

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
22/10/2008 18:08

No1Doyen



I quite agree!



Buckingham Palace is ideal for conversion into 500 studio flats. Windsor Castle perfect for a secure Asylum Hostel.

Lets return all National Trust properties to locals, the timber alone would keep villagers in firewood for ages!



Perhaps we should also get rid of all these expensive to maintain 'ruins' and Mosaics in places like Cyprus and Turkey, even the Pyramids in Egypt, loads of good building material there!

The Mosaics could be re-designed by Polish tilers to look like Jordan & Peter Andre artwork for new Villas!







p.s. Have you got any rich relatives?



Can I have their money? I'll put the proposal to the workers Bureau!





Rob

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
22/10/2008 18:22

No rich relatives for me Rob. Although I seem to recall that an old Uncle of mine was quite wealthy. I remember being told about how he bought a luxurious home once. Aparently whilst travelling round the country in it he had a puncture in one of the wheels!

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
22/10/2008 18:27

Doyen,



I'm sorry about the old boy but I did shout: "Stinger" before I rolled it out.

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
22/10/2008 18:30

His wife was in the back at the time making a cup of tea - spilt it all over herself she did.

fredred


Joined: 09/12/2007
Posts: 89

Message Posted:
22/10/2008 19:20

"Reds in their beds", I thought this was Tory propaganda against Labour, it would seem that the Tories now want to try it.



I am pleased to see some members at last are seeing that they are all the same, and have to agree with the points Wyn made in message 1, but at the end of the day we have to elect a Government and I personally have more trust in Brown than that phoney Cameron.

fredred


Joined: 09/12/2007
Posts: 89

Message Posted:
22/10/2008 19:37

Sorry I forgot to say in message 49



That I also think we should leave the Royal family alone some of them do a good job, the most out of touch, greedy,self indulgent, people we should get rid of is the House of Lords