Husband & Wife seeking permanent employment

coldbones


Joined: 30/05/2011
Posts: 5

Message Posted:
30/05/2011 22:52

Husband and wife looking for permanent work in North Cyprus we are looking to come over to live and work as soon as possible, our house will be finished in July 2011.

I am a fully qualified Beauty Therapist looking to work in a salon or a hotel/spa, my husband is a warehouse supervisor and has worked in a estate agents as a negotiator for a year, a qualified Masseur, Wall Tiler, Gardener, Window Cleaner, Fork lift driver 3 licences.



Look forward to hearing from anyone with some information.



Kind Regards

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
30/05/2011 22:56

Do not get a dog

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
30/05/2011 23:06

Good advise philbailey........

ttoli


Joined: 24/03/2007
Posts: 1172

Message Posted:
30/05/2011 23:15

Legal work Not easy to find here, as a qualified Beauty Therapist your best bet maybe to contact the large hotels that have such facilities.

Estate agency negotiator, If a proven sales record, may be opportunities.



Please do not make the mistake that Many, Many others have made and sell up lock, stock and barrel and move here without financial backing, expecting to fall into Legal employment, A extended holiday first to test the water a VERY good idea.

coldbones


Joined: 30/05/2011
Posts: 5

Message Posted:
30/05/2011 23:36

ttoli



Thanks for the advice, we wont be coming over to live until we have found jobs wether that means doing a few journeys back and forth.

Marion


Joined: 06/03/2011
Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
30/05/2011 23:58

Unless you are Turkish Cypriot it is very difficult to get a job. You cold set up your own company with a TC partner (which means lodging a large sum of money) but to get a permanent job means you must have work permit sand there is talk of that being changed to a fur year term, so fnding a boss that will want you for that ter could be even more difficult.

Suggest, as others have, that you come over and take a look around.

ilk22


Joined: 18/05/2011
Posts: 136

Message Posted:
31/05/2011 02:39

Make sure you still have a home in the UK, even if it means renting it out. Best be safe than sorry, not easy surviving in another country. Good Luck Coldbones.

I'm guessing you're from the UK because of your Username.

coldbones


Joined: 30/05/2011
Posts: 5

Message Posted:
31/05/2011 09:23

To ilk22



We have already sold up here in the UK and renting at the moment until we find jobs out there, is it harder for people at retirement age or is it harder all round as we are not at retirement age and looking to work out there permanently, we have a good 20 years left before thinking of retiring.

Have you done what we want to do, or are you having regrets of going out there.

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
31/05/2011 09:25

Because of the situation regarding work permits at the moment have you considered it may be easier to find employment in the South? At least you would be legal - here, if they catch you working without a permit, you will be deported and what price your new house then?



Worth the fuel to go south every day when balanced against the above scenario.



Also, you may find that you can get a decent salary there.

coldbones


Joined: 30/05/2011
Posts: 5

Message Posted:
31/05/2011 09:33

suehowlittle



Thanks for the advice.

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
31/05/2011 09:34

mess 2 - quite possibly the funiest post ever on Cy44.............





as ting and tong would say "werry well done"





i'd post your award, but there ain't a postal service...........

Marion


Joined: 06/03/2011
Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
31/05/2011 19:38

Oh dear, cold bones. I hope you really know what you are doing. to sell up in U.K means closing the door completely as many of us have found here. Property prices here are NOT going up, and worjk is almost impossible and I doubt you will get 20 years of working here, except perhaps at a minimum wage (maybe) and then you won't be able to go back to U.K. some folk have gone back to live in caravans because of circumstances forcing them to return to U.K, having burnt their bridges as far as property is concerned. (I am one of them, but I didn't come from U.K). But if you have already sold up, then I ghuess you will have to push on , but the advice of getting work in the south is a good one. Why not rent in the south. I know it is Euroland, but so are the wages and of course being EU you are quigte legal -IF you can find a job. I do wish you well, but I am fearful for you.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 02:07

Do you gamble ?



If you have children think carefully .

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 02:22

philbailey;



Why not get a dog?



Feel free to post your answer to my mailbox.The fastest way of posting in the world,let alone TRNC.

paddywack


Joined: 04/05/2009
Posts: 959

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 02:26

Msg 14

May not be staying long

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 04:29

mess 14



nick nack padywack - leave that dog alone...............

ilk22


Joined: 18/05/2011
Posts: 136

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 09:04

Coldbones, if you have sold up then my advice would be to buy something small in the UK and rent it out before you go to the TRNC. Yes, I had tried to live out there in 95 and being born and bred in the UK it was very difficult to adapt, even though I speak the language. I did miss London and did miss the crisp cold weather, it really isn't that easy for everyone to move lock stock and barrel to another country.

As Marion said a lot of people sell up in UK then prices rise and if they want to return they can't get back on the ladder. Play safe and buy yourself a small flat to rent out just incase you oneday you wish to return.



All the best!

Tango1


Joined: 19/02/2011
Posts: 1151

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 09:21

Everyone thinks "it won't happen to me.......I've done my homework...............I won't be like all those others..........I can solve the work permit/must have a KKTC business partner" Unfortunately Ms1, It will happen to you!!! Living out here is great some of the time HOWEVER the pitfalls are many, horrendous and in some cases unbelievably cruel. I'm assuming that you have had holidays here and seen the way things are? If you haven't then you are taking the most enormous risk if you've already sold you property in the UK. As you say your property over here will be ready next month, then you really have jumped into the fire haven't you, so all I can say is Good Luck and I do hope that things go the way you want .



Tango1

StGeorgeI


Joined: 27/08/2009
Posts: 973

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 12:54

Oh it's ALL Doom and Gloom - give up before you even start...



but it isn't like that for everyone and it may not be for you!



For a start if you are buying your house outright then you won't have any outgoings other than the normal bills and living - council tax is peanuts and you won't have any mortgage to pay out.



If it's just the 2 of you (i.e. no kids) then you won't have any extortionate school fees to fork out every month and you can also be very flexible with the hours you work - both will be a huge bonus.



If the above is all true then you should be able to find work, even if it is initially on minimum wage of £600, and you should be able to live quite comfortably on £1,200 a month.



Listen to advice by all means, but don't let this lot put you off - it can be done! The best way is definitely to get out and about meeting people, drop off your CV, email companies... it can be a chance meeting at a bar that gets you the contact that you need.



GOOD LUCK with your ne

cocobutik


Joined: 02/05/2011
Posts: 188

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 17:11

Coldbones...



Don't let other peoples mistakes put you off. TRNC is a beautiful place to live.



What most people deciding to move here make is that they expect it to be exactly as it is when they come over for a 2 week holiday. Nowhere in the world is the same as being on holiday when you live there!!!



Yes TRNC has its problems. Where doesn't? For an unrecognised country I don't think its doing all that bad. Its very difficult to grow without the backing of countries.



If you want to come over and compare everything to the UK, you are making a huge mistake. However, if you chose to become part of the community,



KKTC'YE HOSGELDINIZ.



GOOD LUCK

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 19:23

Coldbones,

You've indicated you both intend working in service sector jobs involving direct contact with the public. But it seems you have no business plan or job offers waiting for you here. If both of you are fluent in Greek and Turkish it will still be a challenge, with failure more likely than success. If only one, or neither of you, speak the local languages I would forget about Cyprus. It's also possible that you may be propositioned for prostitution, which, joking apart, is what happens to many foreign women who first come here with other ideas.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 19:26

you sad @@@@@@@ zoots , only a low life would reply like that .

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 19:41

Message 1



Who has told you that your house will be finished in July 2011.



Many many people have been told exactly that and then arrive to find that the house is not a lot more than a shell and does not have electricity and water.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 19:43

Message 2. Quite brilliant. )

Scoty


Joined: 23/05/2010
Posts: 846

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 19:44

Msg 21 - go back to your other board with your crap. S

Scoty


Joined: 23/05/2010
Posts: 846

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 19:44

Msg 21 - go back to your other board with your crap. Sorry Eric but its true

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 20:07

rowlo: "you sad @@@@@@@ zoots , only a low life would reply like that ."

Does the truth about the TRNC (and Chelsey Village) scare you, old boy? Don't let others make the same mistakes - not that you know much about Cyprus anyway.

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 20:08

More 'lambs to the slaughter', judging by the unrealistic expectations of the poster(s) of this thread - anyone who advises them otherwise is irresponsibly 'leading them up the garden path'!



Why shouldn't 'Zoots' advice be thoroughly sound, just because some forum members don't approve of some of what he/she writes?



'Tango 1's message should be well heeded by any foreigner with similar aspirations as the posters'!

Lifeboy


Joined: 20/04/2011
Posts: 12

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 20:16

Hello Coldbones, We have a legal business here and are renting floorspace. If you want to set up a business here under our business name without all the expense please reply.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 20:21

zoots msg 21 said "It's also possible that you may be propositioned for prostitution, which, joking apart, is what happens to many foreign women who first come here with other ideas"



What a load of bollocks. Yet more made up pejorative rubbish about the TRNC with no supporting evidence to back up the claim what so ever.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 20:23

msg27 , nothing scares me mate .

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 20:30

Message 21



The last paragraph of your post,would you be talking from experience or just assuming?

If from experience please tell us the story,and if your married did you take up the idea?

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 20:39

Msg 30: "What a load of bollocks. Yet more made up pejorative rubbish about the TRNC with no supporting evidence to back up the claim what so ever."

Not being a pimp or regime apologist, I'm not so supportive of people trafficking to the TRNC for prostitution.

Scoty


Joined: 23/05/2010
Posts: 846

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 20:41

Msg 32 - experience by the way you read it. Maybe that is why he went back south. Couldn't make a good enough living here!

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 20:41

Rowlo: "msg27 , nothing scares me mate."

Apart from an HMRC self-assessment form, perhaps?

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 20:46

Message 33



I think you should do a little research in the south.



Trafficking in the south is more rife there than in the north,here it is controlled and monitored and kept behind closed doors.Nite clubs,as they call them.

In the south you have girls grafting on the street and many without hospital checks who work independant or have dirty coward pimps behind them living off the poor girl.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 21:03

Zoots msg 33 said "Not being a pimp or regime apologist, I'm not so supportive of people trafficking to the TRNC for prostitution. "



Classic zoots. Make a totaly false unsupported and unspportable claim and when challenged imply that the person who challenges this utter rubbish is a pimp or reigme appologist ans supports people trafficing. I neither support people trafficing or people making claims that are just not true. It is not true that MANY foreign women are propositioned for prostitution in the TRNC. Its made up BS. You know it, you knew when you posted it and any foriegn women here knows its BS. Pointing out the the claim is BS does not make me a pimp.

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 21:14

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_Cyprus



South cyprus by the way.



The women that work in the nite clubs here get a 3 or 6 month contract,they know what they are coming here to do,most have friends that are currently working in the same trade and they invite them if the club needs a new girl,or the clubs advertise for girls on there websites.



That is not the case in south cyprus,to many romanians and albanians running the job over there who are ruthless to say the least.

Lifeboy


Joined: 20/04/2011
Posts: 12

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 21:20

As I said, If you wish to operate here legally you can rent floorspace etc. and work under our name!

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 21:22

the moral of the story msg1 if you aint already worked it out , dont ask for advise on here , the southerners sour everything northern , speak with your new neighbours , new friends , but do it face to face , not on a bb thats open to the world ? i wish you the best , good luck and enjoy .

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 22:04

Coldbones one bit if advice not mentioned here...is that no matter what qualification you have from the UK , you still have to pay/train /pass to be a regsitered beautician /therapist here...its a lenghty costly process. its a health safety thing here.Obviously you know your stuff but unless you have the TRNC certificate you will be illegal !!! no matter where you work

queen


Joined: 04/05/2011
Posts: 42

Message Posted:
01/06/2011 22:22

HELLO COLDBONES!

please call Filiz on 0090 542 883 0936 or land line 0090 392 822 4410. The hair and beauty salon is in Kyrenia with lots of English customers . They opened last month and they are very busy. She needs extra staff.She may be able to help you! Good luck..

coldbones


Joined: 30/05/2011
Posts: 5

Message Posted:
02/06/2011 09:20

To Lifeboy,



Thank you for your reply, whereabouts are you based, and what is your company called.

We are trying to find out as much as we can, so it would be much appreciated if you could give us some more information about the space ie size, taxes, rent (how much), does this space have a toilet/washroom, storage.



Regards Coldbones

elkiton



Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 514

Message Posted:
02/06/2011 10:36

Hi Sally,

Zoots and friends posting negative stuff are probably more realistic about the work/livelihood situation than most.I came here 3 years ago having "retired" early intending to work part time as in 20-30 hours a week,supplement a pension and keep my hand in the business scene.It took about a week of meeting people in business,lawyers, accountants et al to determine that,very much like Spain,it is extremely difficult as an ex-pat to get legal employment which provides a good standard of living.-Hence why so many here work in the black economy.Forums I find generally don't provide information which is well balanced enough to make a decision,you get a mix of extremes from wonderful to disasterous,often inaccurate with people grinding their own particular axe.Come prepared to possibly work in the South,that I researched and it's easier to do.However, the language barrier both Greek and Turkish is very real,unless you want to fry eggs or lay garden paths for a living!

TonyE

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
02/06/2011 11:06

That's very sound advice, Tony!



Have either one of this couple ever experienced working for a Cypriot, North or South?



Obtaining new work permits in TRNC for recently arrived foreigners, apparently, and according to recent Press reports, is now extremely difficult, apart from the expense and hassle involved.



If a foreigner 'owning' a property is caught working illegally, that person risks deportation and is liable to be refused re-entry, even to try to sell the property. One may as well call that 'kissing your 'investment' goodbye'!



Also, beware of the Cypriot promising he/she will arrange a work permit - there will be no end of offers, but statistics prove that the results of such promises have, more often than not, turned out to be 'heartbreaking', in more ways than one.