Cucumbers back on the menu - it was beansprouts after all

Groucho



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Message Posted:
05/06/2011 21:47

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13662431

So pointing the finger at Spain proves to be a total misdirection.

Turtle


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Message Posted:
05/06/2011 22:09

Cucumbers are back !......the missus will be pleased

newlad



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Message Posted:
05/06/2011 22:16

Tats mate,she is,lol



Paul.

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
05/06/2011 22:20

msg2 ...

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
05/06/2011 22:24

Gavin

Though not 100% sure, but if proved correct, the Spanish € debt will be written off by the Germans otherwise, there will be all hell to pay. Thoughts?!



Richard

Jetski


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Message Posted:
05/06/2011 23:13

Ruining businesses through thoughtless and unresearched rumours....... seems familiar.

Groucho



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Message Posted:
06/06/2011 08:03

Richard,



It should have been fairly obvious that for Germany to be affected in such a concentration, they needed to look to their own production first... to have blamed Spain in such a Cavalier fashion was reckless.

They might well be asked to pay for their error of judgement although I think the price you hint at a little steep in the grand scheme of all things cucumber related...

martinD41


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Message Posted:
06/06/2011 09:42

Historically ,Germany have earned a reputation for being somewhat Cavalier and reckless..operation Barbarossa springs to mind .....

Navek



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Message Posted:
06/06/2011 17:47

Not to blame YET.

06 Jun 2011 14:31 Source: reuters // Reuters

E.coli food probe targets German bean sprouts.

23 samples test negative for E.coli, tests continue...

http://www.trust.org/alertnet/news/ecoli-food-probe-targets-german-bean-sprouts

Navek

Clarissa2


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Message Posted:
06/06/2011 18:47

Re : Msg 9,

Yes, Navek, rather scary. Recommendation stays not to eat cucumbers, tomatoes, lettuces etc.

Here is another link:

http://www.channel4.com/news/e-coli-tests-on-beansprouts-prove-negative

Groucho



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Message Posted:
06/06/2011 19:43

The whole point is that all the case seem to emanate from Germany, which would be a neat trick if the goods were produced in Spain by a company that ships all over Europe... as was claimed.

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
07/06/2011 06:13

BBC World News states that of the 50% of the bean shoots so far tested from the suspected German farm are coming up negative. A bail out for that business is looming, let alone Spain!



Richard

Groucho



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Message Posted:
07/06/2011 07:14

Richard when did 50% = pass?

Oh I forgot, they dumb-down these days...

I'm just waiting for the TRNC to be implicated....

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
07/06/2011 07:24

Gavin

The lab has only tested 50% of the whole lot, re-read my post! Turn on your radio and listen as they articulate the situation far better than I!



Richard

leprechaun


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Message Posted:
07/06/2011 08:24

now it was not bean-sprouts according to bbc news.

martinD41


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Message Posted:
07/06/2011 11:24

E. coli...........Commonly found within the intestines and faeces of Ruminants and Humans...Its more than likely in a contaminated water supply...so could effect any produce............

brother



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Message Posted:
07/06/2011 13:31

Errm, according to the news this morning, The UK Gov. are asking the Germans to be so hasty in their thinking in future! Hmm, when have the Germans ever been hasty in assuming things before? ....... let me think now..... wasn't it something to do with Poland?.. ;-)



Anyway, on a more serious note, it seems they will need less effort in pickling any cabbages for a while

Groucho



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Message Posted:
08/06/2011 08:37

Bean sprouts are notorious for going off and giving people food poisoning... they don't have to be off at point of production for this to happen. So them finding no problem at the grower's site is no indication that bean sprouts were not the cause. Only that the grower may not have been the cause.

Any statistician will tell you however that the statistical likelihood that the cause comes from outside side Germany are astronomically low... they just haven't found the cause yet. The speed with which fingers were pointed to a supplier outside Germany was regrettable.

martinD41


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Message Posted:
08/06/2011 09:14

Gavin ,you are right,but food poisoning is not necessarily e-coli,it's more likely to be salmonella.....E-coli is prolific in faecal matter, I really do think they should be looking for faecal contamination of water supplies.......

Groucho



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Message Posted:
08/06/2011 09:26

Or looking for faecal contamination of water used to 'freshen-up' sad-looking bean-sprouts?

martinD41


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Message Posted:
08/06/2011 09:31

Quite...

Groucho



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Message Posted:
08/06/2011 09:34

They'll never get to the bottom of it!

Groucho



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Message Posted:
10/06/2011 19:29

They did...



German tests link bean sprouts to deadly E. coli



It is believed the bean sprouts were produced in Germany

New data released in Germany strongly suggests that locally produced bean sprouts were, as suspected, the source of the deadly E. coli outbreak.



"It's the bean sprouts," said Reinhard Burger, head of Germany's centre for disease control.



Officials initially blamed the E. coli, which has killed 29 people, on imported cucumbers, then bean sprouts.

phylray



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Message Posted:
10/06/2011 19:56

What a lot of waste of good healthy food! Should be some regulation to stop announcements

like this before the source is found. (Money too of course)

Groucho



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Message Posted:
11/06/2011 07:35

Phyllis

I'm sure they thought they were trying to save lives... but getting it wrong meant they missed the true culprit for a while and potentially more people died as a result; which was the real shame of it all. Surely the statistics for the localised nature of the outbreak should have told them it was their problem? I feel sorry for Spain who have enough problems without this sort of thing.

martinD41


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Message Posted:
18/06/2011 19:04

msg13...Groucho "Just waiting for TRNC to be implicated"



It seems we don't need to be,we now have plenty E-coli of our own...Cyprus Today 18th June.

Groucho



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Message Posted:
18/06/2011 19:12

Yeah, it's a scandal and one the Girne Belediye will find difficult to shrug off.. :(