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Groucho



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OK let's have vote on it...



All those who think Pike's posts demonstrate a balanced view of Cypriot history say "Aye"...



Conversly, all those who think he is too quick to demonstrate a bias towards Greek Cypriot landowners and fails to mention Greek Cypriot atrocities when arguing for Greek Cypriot land rights and Turkish intervention and island division say "Nay"



jonnytwoscoop



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a resounding 100% NAY imo



PtePike



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Groucho,



I had you down as an intelligent and mature man. Is this the best you can do, to ask some of the people on here what they think of me? What replies do you expect to get? The ones that turn you on?



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"a neutral like me"



Sorry but you come across as being as neutral as one of Mugabe's Security Forces!



Given the knowledge you have on Cyprus it is sad to see you post such one sided views. Rarely have I ever, on whatever forums i have visited, heard you refer to the pre 74 situation in Cyprus and the actons of the GC's during this time.



It was refreshing and unexpected for you to admit that the GC's were responsible for some of the atrocities also. Look forward to seeing more evidence of this approach in the future.



Groucho



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Pike



I'm just putting your self-declared neutral status to the test of the BB to see if, like me, the others fail to see any/much evidence of balance in your posts...



Personally I like challenging you and your one-sided approach makes my job easier as it leaves you open to the accusation of being biased beyond reason.



Your response shows your lack of respect for the board membership... and your sensitivity on this subject matter...



Why am I not surprised.....?



simbas



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and its a , nay nay nay from me too



jonnytwoscoop



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I agree with everything that bradus has posted , when will Pike explain to the forum the events from pre 1960 when the GC's were carrying out their own enthic cleansing of the island , when pike when ??



Lemtich



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Infamy! Infamy!



They've all got it in for me!



Lem



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Groucho.....I have to agree with you on this one.

I often find PtePike very amusing on some of his topics but I do not agree that he should be allowed to continually post his anti TRNC views.



I agree that everyone as members is entitled to their opinions but at the end of the day some of his postings do little to help promote harmony between the south and the north.

I'm sure most like minded members have their own thoughts/opinions on how the Cyprus issue could/should be resolved but it is not up to us at the end of the day to dictate the way forward.

My own opinion for whats it's worth is that this forum is for people with an interest in Northern Cyprus....not those that continually slate it.



NoNowt


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Newish here so I have not read that many of his posts and those that I've read haven't led me to seek his other posts. The emotive and sometimes abusive language used, coupled with half truths contained therein, lead me to say "NAY".



Anybody tell me how to put filters here ?



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Of course it will be a resounding Nay but so what? Is he going to change his spots? No, so why bother?

ismet



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could'nt care less........................



Littlenige



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does it mater ? his views are his views and he is just as entitled to them as i am mine or you are yours.



I do so dislike this type of post making a vilan out of a poster because his / her views are not appreciated.



I was moderated on another board because I asked someone who was having ago at me did he keep within the trnc laws.



Lets not go down that road of singeling people out.



agree disagree with a post none will change their views on the cyprus / u problem because of a bb.



Rant over.



wackyjim



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Yep Jock...I couldn't agree more life is far too short!!!!



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why shouldn't pike promote an alternative view?

after all he may theoretically be correct in what he says

and the rest of us terribly wide of the mark...

however there are two problems:



firstly he would have us believe he is unbiased

and holds the "moral high ground" by his own definition

but who is truly unbiased and who is in the right?

no easy answer to this, and misleading to claim there is!



secondly his clever and devious smear tactics

while hardly likely to "convert" anyone

muddy the waters and promote a spoof agenda

based on spurious legalistic and propagandistic criteria



I believe his reasoning is dishonest and obliquely biased

but feel that the powerful counter-arguments

are more compelling than banning



andre



MUSIN M


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26/10/2008 15:09

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nige

i take your point on board ,however this is a north cyprus board .

his pro greek anti turkish remarks day in day out at every opportunity even when its not relevant is annoying .

what i am saying is ,yes the greeks have made mistakes ,yes the turks have made mistakes,so inform people ,lets move forward stop the greek propaganda machine.

gavin

those this question really

need answering



musin

long live the kktc



Groucho



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Oh Andre, I'm certainly not for banning him...



God forbid.. he demonstrates quite adequately the idea that his "morderate and unbiased views" are acceptable to him and GCs...



Nige, I would say this....



Yes it does matter.



Yes he is entitiled to air his views and I'm not advocating that this privilege be removed but....



His self-appointed neutrality is what I'm questioning... he purports to be what he quite clearly is not... if his posts goes unchallenged then it lends a lie to the argument..



What if a new member were to come on the board and see that we all accept what he says without asking him to qualify his points? They might quite easily believe that we all concur... which I guess we don't (do you?)... so it would give a false impression.



How many times have you seen him admit that the GCs committed atrocities.. then think how many times have you seen him post phrases like "GCs ethnically cleansed by Turks at the point of a gun"... go on think...



Once?



Groucho



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"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing."



I'm not claiming to be a good man.. Pike does...



bachelibelly


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26/10/2008 17:12

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PIKEADPOLUS unbiased...surely not !!!!!!!



I think he is a genious ,years before his time ,you even know what will be in his next post even before it is posted...



WHY ... Cause all his posts contain generally identical, to the letter,tunnelled,totally biased, generally repetetive horseshit courtesy of the back end of one of his "Trojan horse" plots to brainwash the populos into believing the GCs walk on water while the TCs merely p*ss in it



IMHO.



ukturk



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26/10/2008 18:17

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hi

like most i really dont care what he does or posts, one thing thou mr pikey must be loving all the attention and you guys are feeding the fire!!!!!

he does add another dimension to the forum with his views but sometimes does go to far with his blatant hate for turkey and dislikes of the t.c community apart from his so called t.c friends if he does have any after they read his posts!!!

he does have some knowledge of cyprus but quite limited to only one side and the rest is just a constant barrage of 'its all turkeys fault' from the land situation to not being able to buy english bacon

my summary on this is if you cant handle or respond to this blokes view dont reply to him because he loves to show and thinks he is a superior knowledge to the rest of the members on here but tends to shy away from people who are knowledgable on cyprus!! you cant ban him cos he has done nothing wrong but if no one responds to his posts ever then no one will get pi..ed off with his comments

ukturk



ukturk



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p.s i have discussed and disputed with pike on many subjects and have enjoyed the banter to a point but to say he is balanced or biased are not two words that enter my mind!!!!! lol



MUSIN M


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where do you think pikey got the bay city rollers outfit from.



its nice





musin



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Whilst some degree of bias is normal in emotive situations such as the Cyprus issue I would say Pike goes far beyond this and is unlikely to change his views irrespective of whatever evidence is to the contrary.



Aussie



Tiggy


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Leave the man alone!



Izzett sent me a mesage a while ago asking me to refrain from sending anti Private Pike messages as this was not what he wanted the board to be about. If you all notice I haver been as quiet as a mouse regarding the said person and respected the wishes of Izzett.



I was assured that P.P. was warned on his future behaviour. If I or others ignore these warnings, then we should be removed.



Life is too short to get involved in all this back biting etc.



So a happy evening to everyone on the board.



Tiggy.



no1doyen


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If you choose to get 'sucked-in' to the Cyprus land issue with PP then you only have yourself to blame. If you don't respond then you won't get into an argument hence no animosity.



newlad



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Tiggy,

I assume you last post was said through clenched teeth.



Pikey,

Looks like you have most people on here snapping like Jack Russels.I for one have never had a falling out with you and have enjoyed some of your posts especially the background info on Famagusta. A word of advice though.Try not to attack the person as it does become very personal indeed,

Regards,

Paul.



Lemtich



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Methinks Private Pike is just trying to enjoy himself. Playing Devil's advocate is what its all about. He is like an early Cassius Clay, float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.



It doesn't matter what you post in reply, he's not over interested in that, he's heard it all before. What he enjoys is the righteous indignation and irate responses coupled with personal insults.



What I enjoy is watching the action. Its pure entertainment to watch Wyn and Pikey in battle. Like watching a master at work weave a defence and allow an attack to break through, then returning with a sharp riposte that leaves them floundering.



Lem



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Lem,

Give us a drag of that lol



Groucho



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But my point still stands, if he's actively posting anti-Turkish propaganda and nobody challenges his posts on Turkish and Turkish Cypriot actions a casual observer might assume we are in agreement with the line he takes..



I'm sure you don't want that... do you?



So you either have to offer a rebuttal or accept that you might be tarred with the same brush...



The point of this thread was to see if anyone could remember a previous occasion, like his recent admission that the GCs did commit gross atrocities in the lead up to the Turkish Intervention in 1974... that support his contention that he is an unbiased member of this board...



Nobody has recalled one and neither has he yet.... I live in hope...



Of course everybody thinks they are unbiased.. that's the human condition. But if you are out of step with the rest of the posters it's probably a good indication that they don't hold the view that you are unbiased...



Your perception is your reality.



Turtle


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Yeah but Cassius Clay cheated against "our enry"



newlad



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Lem,

If Pike is Cassius then who is Wyn.



newlad



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Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo go Suzy go Suzy.



Turtle


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Thats told us !!



Groucho



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I do love a school marm....



PtePike



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I come back from a family day out to see how some people just can't get enough of me. Psychology students would love it. It's called the herd mentality and you get it with frightened sheep.



Groucho, do you feel much of a man starting a thread all about me just because I humiliated you? You're your own worst enemy. What sort of pathetic, infantile gesture is that? As a rabble rouser you've attracted the usual morons - but I don't think you were expecting the response from some others. And to think you have grandchildren...



newlad



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Pikey,

You should see me when i am trying to board a bus talk about herd mentality.



MUSIN M


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pike



i hope you had a nice day out man ,did you have the bay city roller outfit on .



its nice .



PtePike



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newlad: "You should see me when i am trying to board a bus talk about herd mentality."



Mate, you should feel sorry for me sitting among all that trying to read braille with a hook.



Groucho



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Pike, in what life did you ever humiliate me?



I started this thread to flush you out... you are well and truly flushed... how do I know because the insults vice reasoned argument ensue..



Oh, and I don't have grandchildren as my eldest is only 15... child brides and unmarried mothers might run in your family but not mine.. now there's posh..



As for the response from some others... I guess I'm disappointed but not surprised, some people are put off by you... but the best comfort you can draw from their responses is that they don't give a damn about you... it's hardly a ringing endorsement... is it?



Groucho



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Bugger off mum, I'm talking...



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I think Suzanne and Pike are 1-- The same person, 2-- Married or 3 --This is my favourite, got as they say the HOTS for each other, if not come on guys "GET IT ON" you make such a fantastic couple, the chances of 2 people meeting with the same views you share are probably the same as winning the lottery.



Lemtich



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I rest my case, me lud.



Like lemmings over a cliff.



Turkeys voting for Christmas.



But soft, through what yonder window shines?



Is it Wyn, our saviour?



Cometh the time, cometh the man.



Come forth Wyn! Your time has come!



Lem



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Lem,



Someone like this?:



Eight Ace



From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Eight Ace is a comic strip in Viz magazine that charts the exploits of the eponymous protagonist Octavius Tinsworth Federidge Ace,or Eight Ace for short. He is a miserable, foul-mouthed, unclean alcoholic, named after the quantity and brand of lager which rules his life and prevents his battle-axe wife from ever letting him into their ramshackle home.



Eight cans of Ace Lager cost £1.49 from Mr Patel's local 24-hour nano-mart, where the friendly shopkeeper often makes a futile attempt to invite Mr Ace to purchase non-alcoholic items, such as a comb or a bin liner, but to no avail. Each story sees Eight Ace given £1.49, or just enough money to bring his funds to that sum, by his estranged wife to buy something vital for his 'bairns' (the Geordie dialect word for children, and used across north britain) like medicine, or something...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Ace



Groucho



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Ah now we have the jovial Pike we all love..... this time though it's at somebody's expense so it's not so funny.



Pike, alluding to alcoholism at somebody's expense without any proof is at best unkind and at worst cruel. Although I've never met him, I'm sure he's not an alcoholic. He bears little resemblance to the character you've pointed out...



That you are Viz fan is not a surprise... thought I spotted your reporting style somewhere before.... now we all know where you plagiarise your work from.. he he he...



Lemtich



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I've always understood that an alcoholic is someone you don't like who drinks as much as you do.



Lem



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What a sad subject.



An alternative title could be, Let us Brits bicker and bully other view points as we will never truly understand Cypriot mentality and local political issues are none of our business but, what the heck, Pike is an easy target.



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Namus



Agree 100%



PtePike is that a rabit in the head lights ? Ido like the sheep analogy spot on.



Groucho



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Nige, make sure you don't swerve to avoid it!



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i thought that the rules of this forum was that it was not allowed to personally insult someone?



just because you don't agree with someones views you shouldn't victimise the person.



freedom of speach and democracy? or is it mob rule here?



grow up guys!



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Fire starter..It is quite funny at times but does get out of hand so I agree with you..Call it a stalemate eh!!!!



Littlenige



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Groucho



There are some on here I would not swerve to miss if there were in my headlights,



AND then again there are some on here I would SWERVE TO HIT.



Littlenige



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Time to ENFORCE THE RULES i FEAR OR is IT A FREE FOR ALL



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In order to make your stay as pleasant and constructive as possible please take your time to read through this document.



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PtePike



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Valid point, Nige. It's not even a personal post that's breaking the rules - it's a personal thread started by Groucho for reasins best known to himself. Thanks to the decent people out there for their support. Strange how moderators only appear at certain times to help certain people...



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There are over 3,000 members registered on this forum, with duplicates may be well under 3,000!!!



Of that number only around 25 have bothered to comment on this thread. Whatever the number of yea's and nae's within that the vote would be not valid in statistical terms.



I therefore ask that the thread be closed as the comments being made are exactly the same as on other threads currently running.



You know my own views, that everyone is entitled to their views on any topic. If anyone wishes to argue against a point made then do so but do not complain that a person should be removed or censored because they hold a perceived controversial point.



Groucho



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I have never advocated the banning of Pike... he has on several occasions however claimed the moral high ground of being an unbiased observer and bad-mouthed other posters in the process...



I am genuinely interested to hear what other members' perception is of this lack of bias to see if I'm not really understanding where you all come from...



I do find some of his posts interesting but I also have seen how he perverts history to make a point and I'm worried that, for example, given the talks currently underway that his view of things Cypriot is giving a false impression of what really matters and what has gone before...



I did not start a post asking if you liked Pike... I asked if you thought he is as unbiased as he claims to be...



I would not want him to "go away"... and in some respects I have a sneaking admiration for his fortitude....



But and it's a big one, he does attack people who refuse to be brow-beaten by him... OK I may also be guilty... I put my hands up....



Groucho



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BTW a lot of what I write is a joke... you are meant to read between the lines...



And, I'm not Pike just in case anybody wants to start another multi-posting rumour...



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Pte Pike



Another thread dedicated to you?



Well done me thinks you should take it as a form of flattery.



PtePike



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Groucho: "he has on several occasions however claimed the moral high ground of being an unbiased observer..."



Wrong. I have claimed the moral high ground by not being immoral. Being unbiased is a different kettle of fish. Don't twist things.



"I'm worried that, for example, given the talks currently underway that his view of things Cypriot is giving a false impression of what really matters and what has gone before..."



What really matters is a fresh start for Cypriots, not what happened before. You're sounding like Denktas.



"I did not start a post asking if you liked Pike..."



No, you started a new thread inviting others to cast asperations about me. How very decent and grown up of you.



"OK I may also be guilty... I put my hands up...."



Careful - you may just end up apologising for starting this, thus allowing us to move on.



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Msg 62



Groucho



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I never asked them to cast aspersions (or did you mean asperations?)



I asked them to cast one of two votes, yay or nay...



It is not dedicated to you but to the obverse of you...



"What really matters is a fresh start for Cypriots, not what happened before."



Well now you don't want us to talk about the events you never fail to mention... I wonder why that is? Is it because there is no logic in your argument?



BTW, you sound very rattled now.....



I'm not sorry I started this... you offered up your lack of bias up as part of a thread which I found difficult to reconcile with what I perceive to be the true you....





PS... If I sound like Denktas then I'm proud...



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Being a bit of a newcomer here I `ve realised thet Pte Pike a`int popular person. However he is entitled to his views and if people get upset then.... either a) don`t answer or b) realise his winding you up. I dont know if he lives here (trnc) south cyprus or UK. I don`t know who he is, or care.What I do know is some of his posts are boring and repetative. So have a day off if you don`t like the fellow don`t talk to him



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I don't wish to stir things up but I'm convinced that PtePike is actually Whineyardman and Groucho!



3000 members? more like 100 members with 30 different user names!



Still we have a laugh, eh?





ps , you are a new member so the , contents of your posts are being monitered if you don't wish to stir up trouble , then don't ------- moderator



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Groucho: "If I sound like Denktas then I'm proud..."



Proud to be opposed to what the ordinary Turkish Cypriots want and supportive of the leader they rejected. Like many a foreigner protecting their ill-gotten gains, you saw Denktas as your protector.



Says all that needs to be said about you.



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Billy,



Leave it out, You're supposed to be me, remember? Karakum5c said so.



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japal,



You'll learn more about the BB characters as time goes on, and how some take a certain line pretending they support the Turkish Cypriots when they're really just out for what they can get or protect, now peace is coming. Now that Groucho has had to grovel a bit and admit he's a Denktas supporter I feel almost sorry for him.



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You obviously move in very differnet circles to me... but I live here fulltime and I see the respect that Ralph Denktas is held in...



I know he came to be replaced as leader (as do nearly all leaders when somebody new promises them more of what they want to hear - that's fickle human nature) but... you must remember that Churchill too was rejected once the WWII was over... and yet in 2002 he was voted the greatest Briton who ever walked this earth...



The fact that you don't hold his achievements in high regard is for you... I know what I think about the man...



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This used to be a lovely site to post on.



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Wyn,

Deja vu



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oh hi wyn , you are right there , it certainly was

good wishes , pat



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Newlad, clenched teeth....Nah, just not interested in this person any more, or others to cross swords with. No offence to this person or others meant.



Keeping to the forum rules is my main aim in life now.



Say hello to Dodger for me!



Tiggo. aka Tiggy.



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groucho

i agree denktas is a great turkish cypriot and was a great leader.



pikey

you know zero about turkish cypriots and what they want ,so stop posting lies



making up events and misinforming people ,we have peace in cyprus and thats how we want it ,so stop talking rubbish .



suzanne

if you want cypriots both turkish and greek to live together ,then why do you side with someone like pike whose only aim is to put a wedge between the two peoples.



musin

long live the kktc



ps i live in london



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Groucho: " but I live here fulltime and I see the respect that Ralph Denktas is held in..."



Ralph Denktas? Are you sure you are admiring the right person?



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Yawn and yawn again....



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Too much Ovaltine and not enough Rock n' Roll these days?



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Loving this debate keep it going agree with you pike to much ovaltine not enough R&R.

Long live the KKTC



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Groucho "that's fickle human nature) but... you must remember that Churchill too was rejected once the WWII was over... and yet in 2002 he was voted the greatest Briton who ever walked this earth..."



Too true, how fickle people are, and how they forget. Winnie only redeemed himself in WWII, because Chamberlain was deemed too weak to lead the people in wartime. To coin that great phrase "lest we forget" the "great" WC already had blood on his hands in the futile mass destruction of troops sent to their death to satisfy his warmongering in his Gallipoli campaign. An absolute tragedy and for nothing. If my grandfather (who fought in that campaign and was in the minority who survived) had been alive in 2002 to hear that comment, he would have been extremely insulted. It makes no difference how patriotic people are, the fact remains that 500,000 casualties and 150,000 deaths of courageous men including Turkish troops, to satisfy an ambition and an over inflated ego is dispicable.



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But well done Winnie for winning WWII!!!!!! BTW He wasn't my nomination for the greatest Briton who ever walked this Earth.



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Anyway, what is the point of this thread?



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Thanks w26kay,



Thats very decent of you!



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Musin: "pikey you know zero about turkish cypriots and what they want ,so stop posting lies making up events and misinforming people ,we have peace in cyprus and thats how we want it."



"We" have peace in Cyprus? Wasn't that was achieved while you were living your life in London - where you've been for more than 50 years while two generations of Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus have struggled on? I'll bet they missed your help.



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Triple yawn.



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Quadruple yawn with built-up shoes.



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"Time for bed " said Dillon or was it Zebedee ,this roundabouts never ending !!!



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pikey i was in cyprus in 74 but that,s none of your business or anyone else for that matter,however what is peoples business is the lies and anti turkish literature

you constantly post ,everyone is bored of it and quite frankly don,t believe you.

stop the rubbish and lies .

(KOCA KAFALI).



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RE msg 72, Groucho : (...) You obviously move in very differnet circles to me... but I live here fulltime and I see the respect that Ralph Denktas is held in... The fact that you don't hold his achievements in high regard is for you... I know what I think about the man... (...)



===> RALPH?! Groucho, if you don't know what you're talking about - shut up. The gentleman you say you so respect is called "Rauf Raif Denktaş" (in English often spelled Rauf Denktash). Another blunder of yours, Groucho. And if you'd like to start another thread against EricSeans (or PtPike), change your nickname into Machiavelli.



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Centre of attention again!



A little sad!



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I apologise unreservedly to Rauf Raif Denktaş for, in a moment of furious typing, misspelling his name... as my login name is often misspelt on this site and I don't take umbrage I guess I was hoping no one would be pathetic enough to point out the error of my ways...



In fact I realised what I'd done as soon as I posted it but could not repair the damage as there is no edit button and when I tried to post a further message on this site to correct my error my connection went down.... for hours



Still Hans I notice you choose to join the fray, not when you've got anything useful to say but, merely to be rude...



My post is not anti-Pike it's anti-Pike propganda... I have often posted in defence of Pike when I think unfounded accusations are levelled at him (not that you'll have bothered to check this) but I also want him to be honest in the balance of the information he provides for reasons (again which you have probably not bothered to check) that are outlined above....



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RE msg 92, wynyardman : (...) Centre of attention again! (...)



===> You're talking about "Pike", Wyn? (Sorry, as usual I don't know who or what you're talking about from you message).



"Centre of attention again!". Indeed. I often disagree with Pike, but at least he usually knows what he's talking about. And that's more than I can say about a lot of Brits here who are just writing platitudes and cliché's for the sake of writing them.



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When all is said and done your veiws and beliefs on the Cyprus situation is not going to change the outcome.The only people who will change the outcome will be the politicians whether you like it or not, unless you are eligable to become a Cypriot politician and try to change the situation you all might as well shut up and wait and see what the outcome will be..For sure the Cypriot politicians dont give afig what any of you think simply because it isnt your country...



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Oh D&C,



Theres no show without punch! Do not misinterpret the working man. You may have to be one



one day!



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Dutch - couldn't agree with you more! I know Pike's views are often seen as controversial, but at least they are his views. I'm beginning to like him more and more of late. Incidentally, I posted on this board this morning and came in from work tonight to find that not only had my post been removed, but also the one I was responding to. It wasn't, in my opinion, offensive, just asking a question.

Any ideas?

J



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As ye sow.......maybe!



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I had a very good friend of Scottish friend whom we all called Ralph and pronounced it in the way most British people would and that was how he spelt it on his CV etc. However, his mother always called him Raif (or Rafe ?). Can anyone explain this?



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In a similar context why is Colin Powell pronounced as though it's an O ?



Sorry completely off thread.



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Message 67, Was it something I said? Monitered for what? Having a sense of humour? Being honest? If I was an old member I can say what I like?

If Im supposed to be pike, how comes he's not being monitered? Sometimes I just get the feeling peole are picking on me. Its not fair. Ive been very upset all day.



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BillyB, now you've got the mods onto you I'm glad I resisted. I was about to post THAT Groucho must be Pike and possibly others as he's one of the few to wear a disguise. And before anyone complains: THIS IS JUST MY SILLY HUMOUR! I A M N O T B E I N G S E R I O U S.



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billyb & DC yuo ar iddiotes.



musinm yuo ar ok











ps , you are aware of forum rules , any more personal remarks and your posts will be deleted



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Coachie "The only people who will change the outcome will be the politicians whether you like it or not"



I do hope not... if that's the case there is little hope... only the Cypriot people can affect a change... they will need to make their leaders stand up and take notice of their hopes and desires.



Unless that is, the politicians have it in mind not to put their proposals to the vote...



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Krapisskid, You see that Im upset and vulnerable and yet you just go in for the kill. Im seriously contemplating leaving this board and coming back in one of my other 29 names.

NoNowt, This is no laughing matter. Are you uk turk?



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hay billeesb me jus pullin yuor legs mate. .liten ups.



two mani gets upsett on 44



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BillyB, I am UK Sri Lankan.



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Crikey! Exciting stuff!



With a bing and and a bang and a buzz, buzz, buzz!



So who's this Pike chappie?



And what's the connection with this Wynyardman?



I never realised North Cyprus could be so dashed complicated.











Ya couldn't make it up if ya tried.



Jesus wept.



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bb im laughing so there must be something funny about you lol

you sure your not the alter ego of pike or the gremlin who gets fed after midnight!!!! lol

ahh dont leave the forum all new members are insecure in their infant months of posting!!!! lol



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Deeds and words me thinks.

PP says negative things about the TRNC but… …buys a house there that he is not trying to sell.

He takes the GC line that there is one (Hellenic) Cypriot people… …But freely admits that he has TC friends.



Perhaps he is an Agent Provocateur or just enjoys playing the Devil’s advocate (Qualified in the TRNC no doubt!) but we know this, he is a British journalist and as Humbert Wolfe once wrote,

“You cannot hope to bribe or twist,

Thank God, the British journalist.

But seeing what the man will do

Unbribed, there's no occasion to!”



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Marvellous thread....



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Button thread is marvellous....



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You stich me up Grouch



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Pike must now be the most famous and written about person in TRNC.



How about some autographed photos Pikey? Only right with this much fame.



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On various Boards he's been the main topic of conversation for at least 5 years that I know of. Quite a celebrity. I wonder if he'll bring out an autobiography?



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groucho..Istand by what I say ,the politicians will be the ones tomake the final decision onthe islands future,unless there is an uprising in the very near future,which I doubt,cos thats the only way the politicians will change there minds ie East Germany ,Rumania etc etc, They certainly dont give a fig about what afew ex-pats want to happen,when all is said and done Groucho its there country and you will all all have to accept whatever the outcome is or leave....



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Pike Marvellous Thread! Its ok for you, you can handle all this abuse. I cant take much more,they've even called me an idiyot. Even the most helpfull member UK turk is not helping, just laughing at me. I hate my life.

This cyprus problem that you all keep debating, surely the original settlers of cyprus should have a say in matters but never a word from the aborigineys.



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BillyB - don't worry it'll all be over soon.



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Will this keep going to 150????



Maybe the renegades from Cyprus Forum will bring more aboard to keep the thread going!!



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It's very likely.



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Quadruple yawn with built-up shoes



John I don't wear them any more cos I can't get them repaired.



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Lem

Thats Brit expats for you.



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BillyB what are you on?

Pike Marvellous Thread! Its ok for you, you can handle all this abuse. I cant take much more,they've even called me an idiyot. Even the most helpfull member UK turk is not helping, just laughing at me. I hate my life.



This cyprus problem that you all keep debating, surely the original settlers of cyprus should have a say in matters but never a word from the aborigineys.



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That's so true, BillyB.



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........but never a word from the aborigineys. ......



Not since Rolf Harris got involved



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No1Doyen Dont patronize me! Everyone knows it was Rolf Denktas who was the King of Cyprus.

Rolf Harris was a fine actor.



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I loved him in Camelot. Now he was a real King!



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Doyen, didn't you mean a real ***king legend...



I grew up mesmerised by Rolf's paintings on TV



I did like Stairway to Heaven for its novelty but Two Little Boys was on TV, Radio for so long I simply grew fed up to the back teeth with it... What did Aussies think of him?



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By the way aborigines are the original inhabitants of any land mass... not just the antipodes



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Rolf Denktas: "Can you guess what it is yet?"



UN Security Council: "It's not a country so get back to your sheftali."



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I would say he is at least biased as Makarios to the Greek cause.



Here is another opportunity for you to make you feel important Pike.



You can reply at least another 10 times to this remark.



Sad. Very Sad.



Biker



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Ah but you've got to admit some of his jokes are out of the top drawer...

Hold-on, that's the one where I keep my odd socks too....



e.g. UN Security Council: "It's not a country so get back to your sheftali."



This particular "joke" is one of Pike's best examples of his total self-deluding "balance"....



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Groucho: "This particular "joke" is one of Pike's best examples of his total self-deluding "balance"...."



Yeah, sorry. I should have added the Rolf Denktas Full Kebab Eat All You Can Without Barfing championships gag.



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I think we should forcibly repatriate all the Turkish Cypriots to Turkey and all the Greek Cypriots to Greece . Lets ethincally cleanse the whole island and hand all the property back to the original owners. Buggered if i know who they are!



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The Aboriginals - or so someone said!!



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Karakum, "Buggered if i know who they are! "



As a punishment, that's a bit harsh...



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Oh and you can't "repatriate" somebody unless they came from there...as it means to send them back.... so you mean exile....



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karakum5c: "I think we should forcibly repatriate all the Turkish Cypriots to Turkey and all the Greek Cypriots to Greece . Lets ethincally cleanse the whole island and hand all the property back to the original owners. Buggered if i know who they are!"



Do you reckon Greek Cypriots originate from Greece?



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Pike --- Your Welsh so you can get back to the valleys boyo!



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karakum5c,



I've been everywhere, ken like boyo to be sure leave it aaaht.



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Pike ---All the different nationalities in the world should be repatriated forcibily to their country of origin(starting with Cyprus as proposed by you). Why shouldnt you have to go back to Wales , good enough for everybody else but not Pike!



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But what do you do with half the posters on this board? as they seem to be from another planet.



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I felt it was wrong to ask this question, in the first place.



Sport is playing the game, NOT the man.



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Msg 143,



Always one to practise what you <> preach, eh?



Laugh? I almost started to.



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Pikey,



You laughing! Now that would be worth seeing!



THE ORIGINAL PROPHET OF DOOM1



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He started it Miss!



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BillyB,



Isn't it past your bedtime? Naughty boy!



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Pikey,



Message 136......Buggered? Well I had heard the rumours, but I always give people the



benefit of the doubt!



Behave yourself Wyn..."There is no such thing as good faith, in The TRNC!



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Buggered,

bet he had his wellies on, lol



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buggery, a pain in the a*** as far as I'm concerned!



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The foundations of the British Empire were built on the private school motto "buggered before breakfast is the sign of a gentleman". Must have worked after all as i was taught at school "the sun never set on the British Empire"



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Mr Pike, Msg 143



Quote, "Laugh? I almost started to. " Unquote.



'Tis surely, "Laugh? I thought I'd never start!"



Just checking....



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Wynyardman: "Pikey, Message 136......Buggered? Well I had heard the rumours, but I always give people the benefit of the doubt!"



Except I didn't write msg 136, maybe?



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Pike forgive him... he gets a bit confused at times 8¬)



Wyn, I wrote msg 136 and is was meant purely in jest at the idea that buggery was the punishment dished out for knowing who really owned the land in Cyprus.... as mentioned in msg 134



The Red Arrows...... whoosh!



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Groucho,



I was just relying on the information provided in your posting!



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pike wyn groucho and the lovely kay i love you all you put up such a debate. pike now you have sttod up for me and i really didnt know you hailed from cymru you really are my new bf. where are you from me cardiff via ireland long time ago. i love your banter and the craic also the views even though i am actually irish but wales adopted me some time ago i can see a lot of simalatires here, but what the hell all the comments puts a different slant on it for me as it was very hard growing up and trying to understand it all.ptepike dosent look old enough to know what went on, wyn cant make out yor age and the beautiful kay you must be great at histort. My father was in the army and we actually lived here in 956 cant beleive i have admitted to that not for historic reasons but vanity reasons and i do remember bis and pieces. lets hope they can all move on as ireland has done and in this current crisis its hARD enough. how many want all this to go on, i dont know enogh to say whats right non



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sory bout spelling cant see in the dark again lilli



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I know the 'lecky is expensive but for everybody's sake..... Lilli, put a light on sweetheart... go on treat yourself.



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Pikey is biased, but I suppose we all are to some extent.Where we differ is that I am biased towards the north ,I can accept a lot of what Pikey says about corruption ,inefficient administration and legal system.,but I doubt if he would accept the good points that I mention about the north ,and this is what lets him down.I have no doubt I could pick a few bad points about the south and constantly hammer the points home.



Saying that, I have to concede that he is not often wrong factually ,only in his interpretation and conclusions would I disagree .

As part of the debate ,he should be welcomed as an alternative view.



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Is this thread never ending, can we not just PUT HIM UP AGAINST A WALL AND SHOOT HIM ! I cant take much more of this.



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I think we have established that he is both balanced and biased. I think 'putting him up against a wall and shooting him' is a bit harsh.



On a lighter note, there are several people in this world that I find unbearably obnoxious, and he is not one of them. I read his posts with an open mind and take them for what they are. He knows he has the ability to 'wind' every one up but at the end of the day you don't have to respond, do you?



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All right i suspose we cant shoot him, after all he is now a man in uniform and the Geneva Convention prohibits it, on the other hand if he is sailing under false colours (not entitled to wear the uniform) then he is a spy or agent provoceture we are within our rights to hang him.



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Only kidding guys -- i actually think he is great and Cyprus44 wouldnt be the same without him. I sometimes think he just says what he says to get us going and doesnt really believe a word of it. Certainly makes life more interesting.



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Don't worry karakum5c, he knows what he's saying and believes every word of it. He knows what bell he's ringing.



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karakum5c: "All right i suspose we cant shoot him, after all he is now a man in uniform and the Geneva Convention prohibits it, on the other hand if he is sailing under false colours (not entitled to wear the uniform) then he is a spy or agent provoceture we are within our rights to hang him."



LOL. Ever regretted pressing send?



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Although obviously inteligent and eloquent, baised contribution adds little value.



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opps typing error should 'biased'



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Can we get this thread to 200 posts.



Anyone know the record on this forum?



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Pike, don't be mean, he's admitting to only being in class 5c after all...



I see the GCs are putting together a lovely deal along the lines of ... "You rent our lands and stay on them and we'll take your lands in the South and build on them... "



What a sleight of hand that will be...



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msg 169,



Are they indeed? I'd be keen on a link to this.



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