is this the real reason?

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 12:25

I have puzzled for a very long while, why greek cypriot politicians

mostly persuaded voters to vote to say "no" to the 2004 reunification proposals



granted, the offer was portrayed as grossly inadequate by many gc's and claimants,

but as has been claimed, albeit in the present tense, it was the only game in town



yet I've never been fully convinced that christofias and others really believed

all their vaulting rhetoric about germany, the eu etc clawing them back

something better and less turkish, with no is yes, the well-known 1984-style epithet:

and surely ex-pat punters would have seen property values soar up and away

...but a chance lost is a chance lost



nah, this what it is: they didn't want the label of having "sold out" their compatriots,

that could lose politicians elections since the masses pretend they could've got more



perhaps a trusty right-wing demagogue is the one best suited to sell out your people:

think de gaule (algeria) and begin (sinai)

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 13:26

"The hard-line nationalists, meanwhile, seem to consider it a patriotic duty for refugees to give up their property rights rather than go to the IPC".



http://www.cyprus-mail.com/property/our-view-consequences-not-applying-ipc-must-be-made-apparent/20110616

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 14:32

message 2:



yes mark, the harder you stare at the "cyprob" the more elusive it is:

bit like quantum mechanics where on the very tiniest scale,

particles appear/disappear instantanously and are sort of there/not there



I'm not claiming the gc's are not all there, since at one time they controlled

most of the land and businesses on cyprus and were very successful



to be fair, their rich-peasant imagination didn't stretch to a crisis-torn

eurozone, a nascent turkey emerging onto the world stage,

and north european voters' viscereal rejection of any turkish eu membership ever,

...so no chance of a carrot-and-stick-propelled north trnc surrender there then



but for a fallback strategy of any sort at all, I'd urge them to negociate

with erdogan to secure an interim peace deal,

ending their blockade, while ensuring turkey opens its ports to roc shipping



as for gc politicians these are mostly not hardline nationalists,

just regular guys wriggling out of any blame

ilovecyprus


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Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 14:53

msge 3



"as for gc politicians these are mostly not hardline nationalists,



just regular guys wriggling out of any blame"



Agree Andre, once you put your head in the noose, you cant be sure that someone isn't going to kick the chair away. Its better to look tough by by pumping out the pectorals, flexing your biceps and ranting hard line rhetoric.



"but for a fallback strategy of any sort at all, I'd urge them to negociate



with erdogan to secure an interim peace deal,



ending their blockade, while ensuring turkey opens its ports to roc shipping"



The head of DISY recognises the only way forward is to establish meaningful dialogue with Turkey. You never know, the two leaders might even establish that they both have a proud stamp collection or both like model railway sets. (Dont see Erdogan as the doll collecting type) Trust building has to start somewhere.