Public and Private information

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 15:15

Having recently had a post of mine edited by a moderator here with the 'notice' from the moderator saying



"you just cannot post another members personal details on a public forum"



I feell I have to point out that I did not and have not posted a members personal details on a public forum. What I did, and clearly said I had done, was post the PUBLIC information of who was the registrant of two specific domain names. This information HAS to be made available to anyone who wishes to see it for every and any domain on the internet. That it might also be someones home address is not something I can know nor is it relevant as far as I am concerned. Anyone can see who is the registrant and the contact address for ANY and EVERy domain that exits on the internet. That is how domain name reigstration works. Anyone can see the name and addrees my domains are registered under, which happens to also be my home address here in TRNC.[cont]

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 15:20

Anyone publishing that as the contact address of the domains I have registered is NOT 'posting personal details on a public forum', even though it is my home address (it could be a business address, a PO box, or any valid address I can be reached on , I choose my home address). You can do the same for this site, or indeed any website address on the internet.



To publish it as my home address, or without explaining it is the registrant contact address of a given domain may well be seen as publishing personal information but that is NOT what I did.



I have to say I am a little aggreived that I have been accused publicaly on a public forum by a mod of doing something that I just did NOT do. Hence my post here. I do understand why the mod thought I had done what they claimed and have no problem with that but I feel I do have a right to set the record straight.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 15:31

A good description of the 'whois' system can be found here for anyone interested.



http://www.dom4j.org/legal/whois-information.php



What I did in the post that was censured was the equivalent of saying 'the address of this compnay in yellow pages is" and then having that post removed with a note saying 'you can not post another members personal details on a public forum'.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 15:32

Oh dear

Here we go again.

Erolz

Can I respectively suggest you sort out your concerns with Forum Admin direct rather than start off another round of squabbles on the board.

Also I suggest you re-read the rules that you accepted when you joined Cyprus44.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 15:59

AJ the mods notice saying I had done something that in fact I had NOT done was posted PUBLICALY on this forum. I did and have in fact emailed off board the mod directly, and so far have not had a reply, which is fine, whenever they get round to it. However as the mistake was made publicaly then it is entirely correct that the correction to that mistake is alos made publicaly.



I am not starting a squabble. A mistake was made concering me and something I had alledgedly done and this was done in public and thus I have corrected the mistake in public.



I have read the forum rules and accepted them and unlike many I abide by them. If I have breached them then I suggest it is down to a mod or admin to deal with that and not for you to publicaly post about me accepting them and reading them. Doing this stuff off board works both ways you know.

gooligan


Joined: 30/01/2007
Posts: 1591

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 16:05

AJ,I think you will find there were no rules when Erol joined.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 16:14

gooligan

Obviously there are still no rules as far as Erolz is concerned.

Erolz read and re-read rule 4 and have the decency to deal with it off board.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 16:25

AJ one could suggest you have the decency to mind your own business.

Rule 4

"Forum admins have the final word. If you have a problem or a complaint, email Izzet off board. Do not post it on the board. Forum admins do not need to explain their actions. Do not complain about this."



I accept mods have a final word. I do not have a problem or complaint about moderation. I do not want or expect the mod to explain their action. I am not complaining about rule 4. I dont even want a reply to the thread. If you had kept your nose out it would have been 2 posts and ended there job done.



I have no problem with their moderation, their right to moderate, the removal of my post. My only issue is with the publicaly posted incorrect information and my only objective is to correct it publicaly. There is no rule that says I can not publicaly correct something publicaly posted about me by a mod that is in fact incorrect that I know of.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 16:45

Erolz

Unfortunately your postings are becoming laughable.

'AJ one could suggest you have the decency to mind your own business.'



If you post in the public domain then it becomes every ones business which is why I suggested you deal with it directly.



'I dont even want a reply to the thread. If you had kept your nose out it would have been 2 posts and ended there job done.'



So why did you post if you did not want any replies?



If you wanted to make a statement with out wanting replies then you should have contacted Forum Admin asking for the thread to be closed immediately after posting.

AJ

ianwfs


Joined: 08/01/2008
Posts: 563

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 16:52

I agree with Erolz. The information posted was in the public domain. he could as easily have posted a link to domain tools, where (I assume) he got the information. There was no breach of confidentiality in this instance. If the website owner wanted to hide his information from (easy) access, he could have done so at the time of registration or renewal.

To censor that information is more or less the same as preventing the publication of the head office address of Pegasus airlines or the contact address and phone number for Izzett, all of which are also in the public domain.

To use rule 4 as a reason for action, is simply denying that, on this occasion, a mistake has been made that needs to be rectified, a mistake that doesn't need an appeal to Izzet to be corrected.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 16:53

Could a mod pelase close this thread now when they get a chance ? The incorrect info has been corrected. Everything else is off topic nonsense. Thanks.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 17:06

Can't AJ do it?

Cocklebay


Joined: 26/02/2011
Posts: 353

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 17:10

Well said AJ message 14!

Cocklebay


Joined: 26/02/2011
Posts: 353

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 17:11

Well said AJ message 4!

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 17:25

philbailey



'Can't AJ do it?'



Do what? I am not a moderator. I relinquished my moderator duties due to the amount of members that apparently could not and still do not understand the rules of the board.

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 17:26

We need a "pedant" section where they can all get together and out "pedant" each other

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 17:27

Erolz.

i totally agree with you,sometimes i think you are winding me up and winding the forum up,but in reality,who cares!!

to me it does not matter that erolz posts my name and address in the cyp44 forum,its kids play,

maybe he needs to post the real persons address who is really concerned,



if sunny cyprus goes off, you can contact this man @ this address,he might be able to help.







Erolz says so.























Post edited to remove personal details , Simbas

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 17:30

So sorry if i have this wrong,,@ least i appologise if some thing is wrong with my postings.



i do not wish to get into aruments regarding things im not interested in.



please erolz, keep your dirty accusations to yourself. i do not wish to hear or look at such postings, 6ms causes to much trouble here as it is .

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 17:36

Once more for the record. I did not " ...erolz posts my name and address" as 0maintenace claims in msg17



What I did was post the publically declared and available information of the regsitrant and conact address for two domains and clearly said this is what I had done. Anyone can find the same publicaly posted information in the same way I did, by using a whois service, the function of which is to display such public information on request.

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 17:40

Me and david have been looking into the rights and wrongs of cyp44 all day with customers,and even david has admitted that AJ was the best MODERATOR to ever moderate cyp44 .wow. i was also shocked,let me tell you that.

I life,right is right,wrong is wrong.



we cannot change that.



We understand the hard work a moderator has to do,but some who have friends who are moderators think its an easy job and they can do as they wish,also co hearse that moderator to do as they wish,NO LONGER MMMMMMMMMMM. now i wait for the libelous writ. i said im waiting,this is a challenge.where is my writ from a baffooon who rips off people and blackmails folk with a VPN. i say what a hand slider,he might call himself something different.

The toothless wonder is the biggest joke of all time,he is a Ass licker and a trouble causer peee weee and a boy who trys to play both sides

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 17:44

message 19



no 1 asked you to post the details of david,no 1 thought it would make any differece fron you and mark



if sunny cyprus goes off, you can contact this man @ this address,he might be able to help.







Erolz says so.























all it did was try to make a greek poster looked at!

Post edited to remove personal details , Simbas

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 17:48

6ms. im sorry if i have everything wrong.



But some how i know that i never get nothing wrong.



Ask scoty and your greek friend ,Erolzs

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 17:48

Tut Tut...Me and David





David and I !





Not sure if I spelt it right though..





Mr Boots.

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 17:51

Oh here we go again.



Anyway,im off out.



enjoy the evening.



You also blackwidow!!!

AnthonySmith


Joined: 14/05/2009
Posts: 455

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 18:31

She is/was a journalist for the Star. Terrible English all round. And a vindictive streak. David is welcome to her.

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 18:37

Sorry aNThony sMyth



We are both at a loss as to what your talking about.



Please come to the office and help us out













If you are able too!

AnthonySmith


Joined: 14/05/2009
Posts: 455

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 18:39

I am able to. I live in North Cyprus, but why would I want to meet what more and more appears to be two very unpleasant people?

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 18:48

Only to discuss your inabilities



No other reason whatso ever.



To see the light from every side,of course.



Your message 25 seems a little strange to say the least (She is/was a journalist for the Star. Terrible English all round. And a vindictive streak. David is welcome to her. )



Toni smith . All i can really say is this my little friend.



If you have a problem which is how you make it look in your postings,please pass by the office and take it off the forum,that is what the mods would tell you to do,now why dont you listen to the mods for once in your very very little life,do as they requst?



Good day toni smyth



Dont play to much my inadequate friend



Good night & god bless!

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 18:56

Any way. im not going to answer you Pukking trolz no more. your all just trying to wind me up.



Looking back over the last few nights,now i can see it,all you carpet baggers who have been playing with me i denounce you all.

I wont tell you my wishes.



The people who sat on the sidelines.good luck to you all.i hope you all get your kochans. and i mean that.



The carpet baggers.you all know who you are.good luck to you also.



Msg 19



Stop while your ahead my little goatie faced greek friend



And david wishes you all a happy chlorine free swimming folks & carpet baggers,carpet baggers you know who you are

Now make what you wish of it,i have asked the 3 stoogers not to bring davids name into this .



Do not Blame any 1 for these words only yourself,you was warned.



Toodle pip.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
16/06/2011 23:58

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread went off topic.