smoking

ladylittle


Joined: 09/03/2008
Posts: 498

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 11:49

HI,

Have been informed that the smoking ban has been enforced here now. Does anyone know if this is true?? As a bar & restaurant owner I have not been officially informed of this but would like to know.

Thanks in advance

bootneck



Joined: 23/06/2008
Posts: 242

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 12:00

I was told that this was only in government offices

legin


Joined: 15/11/2007
Posts: 105

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 12:12

Flew out of Ercan Sunday morning. Nowhere to lamp up in there!

ClaireCat44



Joined: 17/09/2008
Posts: 739

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 12:15

No Smoking in Lemar cafes. No Smoking in my office at Near East University.

joandjelly


Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 2953

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 12:55

There are no smoking signs in all the Gov offices but they continue to puff away!!

Wilts Girl


Joined: 16/07/2008
Posts: 159

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 12:57

There was smoking at Ercan in Septemner when we were there. When we came last in 2005 you could see all the staff behind the check in desk in their little offices smoking away.



Please TRNC dont go the same way as UK and ban smoking in all pubs, its been a killer for lots of pubs here!

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 13:05

"...its been a killer for lots of pubs here!"



And a killer for lots of people, unfortunately.

JimmyG


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 900

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 13:09

That's exactly the point Pike - well said.

Wilts Girl


Joined: 16/07/2008
Posts: 159

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 13:58

I knew someone would bite eventually!

Superscousers


Joined: 25/10/2008
Posts: 71

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 14:33

Cant wait for the smoking ban to be implemented fully Clean air no dirty smelly ashtrays. Best thing that ever happened in UK .

Wilts Girl


Joined: 16/07/2008
Posts: 159

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 14:40

Pubs going out of business, people hanging round on the streets smoking in large groups, ugly smoking shelters everywhere.



Oh yes there is a lot to look forward to!

McSteviet



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1089

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 14:41

Too True SS



MC

The butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 14:46

I agree, I can go out at night and not come back smelling of someone elses filthy habit.



The Butlers wife

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 14:47

What is forgotten is there has been a smoking ban in public places since 1996 but has never been enforced.



There is a wonderful old joke along the lines of - I don't mind if you smoke as long as you do not mind if I f**t!!!!!!!



There has got to be some realism with these bans, UK, USA etc have gone to far and effectively removed the Human Rights of smokers and I am amazed no one has taken that one through the courts.



Here smoking is the norm for many and it is as if some people have come here to take up the habit!"!!!!!!! However during most of the year people sit outside and smoking is usually not a big problem. However when winter comes and you go into the small bars.....OH DEAR!!!!



I have no solution to offer and as a non smoker does not bother me if there is a ban but I do think a solution in many places would be easy to find.

Wilts Girl


Joined: 16/07/2008
Posts: 159

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 14:54

There is a simple solution which has been evident in pubs in the UK particularly the North for years; you have a snug room for smokers to sit in while the rest of the pub is for non smokers.



Failing that allow pubs to decide if they want to be smoking or non-smoking pubs. As long as they clearly display which they are and people chose whether to go in there or not what's the problem?

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 15:04

I flew out of Ercan last week 23/10/08 and had a ciggy in the airport cafe.

mishmash


Joined: 05/05/2008
Posts: 336

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 15:19

well said wilts girl - totally agree

JimmyG


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 900

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 15:25

Wilts Girl your 'simple solution' was rejected prior to the UK implementation of the smoking ban - get over it - no one's looking for a solution now.

Wilts Girl


Joined: 16/07/2008
Posts: 159

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 15:30

CIS said they didn’t have a solution to offer; I offered one.



I don’t care that its already been rejected, just my opinion that it would have been more workable than what we have at present!

Chessman


Joined: 13/05/2008
Posts: 486

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 15:47

When I go into pubs in the UK, I suffer from passive ugliness.

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 15:55

Well said wilts girl, at the moment when you go into a pub your getting a shot of nicotine as you walk in the door because most people are smoking in the entrance, it's also wafting through! There is a pub near me though that's put paid to that, you cannot smoke near the entrance or exit, there are benches at the side with no heating, needless to say it's closing down.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 15:58

The Butler: " I can go out at night and not come back smelling of someone elses filthy habit."



Rubber gloves help, apparently.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 16:00

Chessman: "When I go into pubs in the UK, I suffer from passive ugliness."



That's nothing that six pints can't fix.

Wilts Girl


Joined: 16/07/2008
Posts: 159

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 16:10

Britvic, it’s a very common problem especially in some of the cities where you have very large groups of people on the streets. I live near Bath where not all pubs have outside space so people congregate on the streets.

Chessman


Joined: 13/05/2008
Posts: 486

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 16:11

PP: I think I may well be comatose after 6 pints but a good tip, nevertheless.

Wilts Girl


Joined: 16/07/2008
Posts: 159

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 16:17

Reminds me of the old joke about the bloke at the bar who orders a pint, he looks in his top pocket then orders another one, after this happens 6 or 7 times the bar man ask him what he's got in his top pocket, the man replies



"its a picture of my wife, once she starts to look good I know I've had enough!!"

bootneck



Joined: 23/06/2008
Posts: 242

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 16:20

Does any of this answer the question NO! the question that i would like to know is, is it a fact or a rumour?

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 16:25

EU to take exceptions out of laws on smoking in public spaces and work places. Ban proposed across the whole of the EU. I bet the TRNC can't wait to join up.



http://www.euronews.net/en/article/27/10/2008/taking-exceptions-out-of-laws-on-smoking-in-public-spaces-and-work-places/

Chessman


Joined: 13/05/2008
Posts: 486

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 16:26

Wilts Girl: LOL



Bootneck: I am sure there was something in Cyprus Today that said President Talat had given his approval. I cannot remember how much detail there was though. Watch this space, i guess.

The butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 16:32

Pte Pike,



Like it but you knew what I meant.



The Butlers wife

Wilts Girl


Joined: 16/07/2008
Posts: 159

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 17:06

A thread going off topic?! Who would have thought it!

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 19:00

Wilts girl..you have 3 choices..1..Go in the pub and dont smoke 2..go in the pub and smoke in the propper areas...3 Give up smoking and spend what you save on not buying ciggies to by more booze....

Turbo


Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 833

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 19:45

It was in the Kibris paper not so long ago that smoking in enclosed areas will be banned, I thought it took affect already.

You know this is going to be a hard one to make stick, can you picture the little cafe's in the villages where the men gather to smoke and have coffee and chat.

They wont give a hoot.



The ban started in the South last year and they are having a bad time enforcing it:

you can read the rest o f the story here.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/



I am a smoker, and it bothers me how some inconsiderate people light up at the table while they are eating, no thought for the rest of the diners at their own table.

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 19:50

I am an ex smoker. I was used to having to go outside to smoke. Certainly my home and workplace etc. were better for the ban. I must say that giving up was the best thing I've ever done. I've noticed just how much someone smoking near you can spoil ones enjoyment of a meal. I now realise just how anti social it is and I was. The majority of people now don't smoke. Whether that is true for NC I'm not sure. Chain smoking seems to be the norm.

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 20:09

bootneck.



It is fact that a smoking ban is already in existence, since 1996.



The latest facts are that all of the current act banning smoking will come into effect by 2010.



As to exactly what this will entail will obviously be kept a secret until you happen to break the law in front of an enforcer!!!! LOL



Whatever, if you are a smoker it is probably best you start practicing now for what will eventually happen.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 20:21

hi all take all our points on board we are also restaurant owners but dont know what to do, we are told its in force but no one has told us to implement it. many customers who smoke go outside anyway but do we put signs up it would be nice to know.Iagree with you efomed smokers and non sokers that smoking in an enclosed area can cause distress but to all smokers there will always b be a place. Look at the pubs in u they looe ut and the social groups are found outside puffing way.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 20:47

Totally agree Turbo, We were at a restraunt in Alsancak a few weeks ago and 4 brits turned up, sat at the next table and all lit up as we were eating.............selfish gits.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 20:51

Lilli..Your true customers will not be offende d if you decide to say NO SMOKING in the restraunt.I smoked for 51 years till it caught up with me and iI had to have a quadruple heart by pass operation but I always went out side to smoke rather than up set people who were still dining. I think it is just common courtesy to do so and if everyone did the same there would not be any problems...

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 20:54

Lilli

What about making your restaurant no smoking inside and see what happens? I know those who before the ban in the UK would seek out no smoking restaurants. You never know, might actually increase your trade.

no1doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 20:56

I agree that oking should be banned in Restaurants and public places. However I do feel that certain smoking areas should be made available. It must be difficult for some people to stop smoking and they must be considered.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 21:20

No1 doyen.. ther was nobody more than me anti give up smoking.My wife gave up 30 years ago and kept onto me to give up and believe me it caused a few heated arguements.It wasnt till I took ill on holiday that the penny finally dropped and then it was nearly to late.Yes I do agree with you that people should be allowed to smoke, that is there perogative, but they should also be aware that there smoking is very offensive to a lot of people that do no smoke.there fore somewhere should be made available for them to smoke without offending others...or as has been suggested allow pubs or restruants to be either "smoking" or" Non Smoking" then people have a choice either way

The-Wicks


Joined: 27/05/2007
Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 21:41

Well, here in the "Beautiful Market Town" of Bury St Edmunds, we have pubs who now have non-smoking gardens! For God's sake, can't a little common sense prevail? I am a smoker, my husband is not, but I have no problem with the no smoking ban in pubs and restaurants and am quite happy to go outside and indulge in my filthy (and expensive) habit. However, surely it's a bit much to have no-smoking outside areas - what next?

As an aside, gave up for 2 years - got fat - recommenced smoking!

J

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 21:47

the Wicks ..If you think that is stupid how about putting "no Smoking" signs on golf buggies at our local course..

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 22:02

Is smoking a global warming issue? If all the world's smokers stopped would there be a positive effect on greenhouse gases?



I have not idea but I be interested to know....

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
28/10/2008 22:11

Groucho..like you never thought about it..Likewise if all the hot air that was spouted on here ceased would that make adifference as well...

stewy


Joined: 18/10/2008
Posts: 279

Message Posted:
29/10/2008 00:01

I heard that tobacco was going to be banned in the cafes in Amsterdam.



however jamaican wacky baccy is still ok???

Turbo


Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 833

Message Posted:
29/10/2008 01:49

I thnk I may have mentioned on another post.

I am a smoker, yet i am the one thaa feels uncomfortable lighting up around non smokers.

It must be that I have become to Caifornia'ized, here in CA, it is difficult to smoke in a lot of places, some Cities has no smoking on the streets, on the beaches and if you are going to fly into LA, enjoy your last cigarette in UK cuaase you wont be able to have one till youre way outside the airport .

Even Disneyland has small little areas for the smokers, the people strolling by give the most odd stare, its like " look kids, those are the bad guys from the PIrates".

All in all , I think we are headed in a god direction.

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
29/10/2008 02:28

Coachie

At least you managed to give up eventually to save your life.

I know of 2 men who have had same op. & have continued to

smoke. I would feel sick if I were their surgeon.

I have to admit as a non (not ever) smoker U.K has been pretty

good about it. I see them gathering in small groups outside the

pubs chatting and smoking, seems quite a social thing. It's certainly

made it bearable for us non-smokers to enter bars, restaurants now.

As I am slightly asmathic I try to avoid breathing the pollution from ciggies.

Turbo


Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 833

Message Posted:
29/10/2008 05:19

its also illegal to smoke in cars when kids are passengers,, which is a great thing.

No one should be subject to second hand smoke. This is coming from a smoker ( ok a very light smoker 5-6 a day). first ciggy at 5-6 with my first drink.

Wilts Girl


Joined: 16/07/2008
Posts: 159

Message Posted:
29/10/2008 11:55

The Wicks, this is a common thing now as especially during the summer smokers just sat in beer gardens and people complained that they were being taken over by smokers.



It’s a very emotive subject for a lot of people, personally I never liked sitting in the smoking section of restaurants even though I am a smoker as I agree its not very nice when your eating.



Most smokers are quite reasonable about not lighting up where people are eating but as with all things some are inconsiderate.



As for enforcing a ban in TRNC, good luck! My local authority area only has 2 smoking ban enforcement officers and they struggle to get round everywhere, I would like to see how many people they would need to enforce it in Northern Cyprus!

breezyboy


Joined: 14/05/2007
Posts: 1179

Message Posted:
29/10/2008 12:22

I have read somewhere that the smoking ban will effect restaurants and bars which sell food but not bars which only sell drink. The article didn't say when it starts.

Incidentally,last week Istanbul airport was covered with official notices banning smoking and giving the penalties for doing so. I didn't see these notices 3 weeks ago.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
29/10/2008 12:56

msg 37: " We were at a restraunt in Alsancak a few weeks ago and 4 brits turned up, sat at the next table and all lit up as we were eating.............selfish gits."



Expat trailer trash, no doubt.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
29/10/2008 12:58

Doyen: "I agree that oking should be banned in Restaurants and public places."



If that was a letter "p" missing then I largely agree with you, although there are always exceptions to the rule.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
29/10/2008 12:59

Customers of your's PP?

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
29/10/2008 13:00

msg 46,



They'll need to provide something as a mixer, no?

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
29/10/2008 13:03

Doyen,



I'd love to think I arrested them in the past, if that's what you mean.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
29/10/2008 15:22

Wilts girl..They would need a helluva lot more than they already have and then some ,,Greece and Turkey are probably 2 of the highest smoking countries in the world.I was in Crete in June and there was no ban there,if there was nobody bothered enforcing it....

Wilts Girl


Joined: 16/07/2008
Posts: 159

Message Posted:
29/10/2008 15:28

Plus some of the little places you get in countries like Turkey/North Cyprus its difficult to tell whether its a public bar or just someones front room with a few friends having a drink and a smoke!