Death Of Civility and Rise of the Vulgarians

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 14:29

Hookers and hooligans; drugs and assault charges - welcome to Ladies' Day at Ascot where this week there were more tattoos on parade than on an average Ibiza booze cruise. And that was just the women...



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2004896/AMANDA-PLATELL-Death-civility-rise-vulgarians.html#ixzz1PcsZx0zd



How pathetic. How sad.

And how true...

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 14:48

Chavs day out now it seems.

AnthonySmith


Joined: 14/05/2009
Posts: 455

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 15:21

That was such a depressing read :-( All of it.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 15:23

You are so right Anthony. Always enjoyed Royal Ascot, so sad to see this type of behaviour now x

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 15:31

Just the usual daily mail reactionary claptrap as far as I can see. So there was a punch up at ascot ladies day, big deal. As for 'this is not about class', maybe not but to me the whole article reeks of snobbery of the worst kind. As for Helen Wood being there why should she not go there ? She looks prefectly respectable in the picture shown. Why the hell should she hide away in shame as the author seems to think ?

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 15:55

I think this is more to do with alcohol and what it is doing to the UK society, people cant seem to get drink anymore without fighting and worse.

hwilde


Joined: 16/09/2010
Posts: 230

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 17:22

erolz



I think the point is that Ascot is owned by The Queen and Ascot week is very much about her enjoying her favorite pastime. It's a shame the drunken yobs have no manners but things have gone well past that now. They are after all only allowed in because they contribute to the upkeep. The good news is that the part they are allowed into is separated from the Members and the Royal enclosures by a high wall topped with barbed wire.

trooper


Joined: 04/07/2009
Posts: 211

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 17:25

Clarissa2; as I have said in other recent posts, it's all about standards and it's not only here in the trnc that they are lacking. I'm not sure there was ever a golden age but it sure as hell isn't now.

hwilde


Joined: 16/09/2010
Posts: 230

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 17:31

Continental medeivel chroniclers expressed complete bafflement of the inability of the English peasantry to have a drink without resorting to violence and causing riots. It has been a problem for hundreds of years.

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 18:21

Re: Msg 5,



erolz,

Do you really think that behaving in a civil manner and expecting it from others amount to snobbery?

Is it too much to ask these days?

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 18:28

Haa.



What more do you all expect from the supposed upper echelons of british society.



I keep hearing that is why alot are not in the UK anymore.

Roomy


Joined: 20/02/2011
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 18:30

Msg 9

It's a lifestyle where I come from little shy guy, you would probably have to stay indoors.Hahahahahaha...

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 18:35

Great photo,hooray henry sticking the boot in.



The affects of poor quality cocaine and what its been cut with and paranoia brought on by poor quality sniff and of course the good old alcohol.



Looked like a great day out for them.



Im sure those in the photo shall cut that out of the newspaper and it will be stuck to the office filing cabinet for many years.

hwilde


Joined: 16/09/2010
Posts: 230

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 18:44

You only have to look at the suits and the haircuts to know that these are not hooray henrys. These are just the rifraf who turn on on Lady's Day every year.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 19:00

blimey Clarrissa2. I never had you down as a Daily mail reader.

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 19:27

Message 14



A hair cut or a suit tells you nothing of a person,as i said in message 13.



http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/lifestyle/esmagazine/article-23944938-the-hooray-henrys-bringing-chaos-to-the-kings-road.do

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 19:28

Our Clarry has always been a bit above herself. You should see her drum over ere!! Someone said she was a stuck up cow.....but having met her The nearest she has been to Ascot is the water heater in the back kitchen..

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 19:35

Re : Mas 15,

Darling Douglas,



Unfortunately it was the only available newspaper at the hairdresser's. The article captured my imagination

You are right , The Economist and Money Week are more of my scene.



Love to Michele,



Clarissa

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 20:07

Clarrisa2 message 10, just my personal view but I do not think the article is about behaving in a civil manner I think it takes a random event (punch up at ascot ladies day) as an excuse for the writter to vent their prejudice and express their distain about 'people of a lower standard'. The pot shots at women with tatoos is not about behaving in a civil manner, its an expresion of prejudice against a 'certain type' of person. Nor are the attacks on Helen Wood anything to do with behaving in a civil manner that I can see. The woman who writes this has something of a reputation, just try googling her if in doubt.

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 20:15

Google.



Thats the secret.



Not many do there home work before opening rip

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 20:56

Re : Msg 19,

erolz,

Oh, we are moving fast: not to condone yobbish behavior was at first snobbery, now it is an expression of prejudice.

BTW, I don't need to google it, I know who Amanda Platell is, like everyone in the UK who reads press or watches TV.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 21:10

It's a sign of the times that C44 people agree with a report in - of all UK 'news papers' - the Daily Mail.



And for this member of the 0-gang on this board, please read and try to understand this quote from the article (msg 1):

"The fact is, when you lower your standards, you get a lower standard of person. That applies not just to Ascot but to society in general."

Roomy


Joined: 20/02/2011
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 21:31

Msg 22



Please tell us how to live as you do oh mighty one.





Hahahahahahaha

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 21:37

Clarrisa2 as I said its just my opinion, nothing more. Though I do note you seemed not to have addressed my points. What do women with tattoes say about civil behaviour or are you of the opinion if someone has a tattoo they must be uncivil as well ? Is that not preujdice, be it her view or both of yours ? What does the attendance of Helen Wood have to do with civil behaviour ?



I certainly do not condone yobbish behaviour, but she talks about tattoos Helen Wood.



Just my own opinion.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 21:38

@ msg 23, Roomy (...) Please tell us how to live as you do oh mighty one. Hahahahahahaha (...)

▶ Tell you what? Tell your parents that you used their computer again when you should have been in bed? "Hahahahahahaha" - which grown-up would dare to type this time and time again?! You're another scourge of this board.

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 21:41

message 22. could this be the answer.

Loneliness is an experience that is commonly associated with being old and without a partner or lonely with a partner. Results from a Dutch sample involving 131 unpartnered men and women between the ages of 65 and 75 indicate that the absence of friendship support rather than being single is an important determinant of loneliness. In accordance with the theory of mental incongruity, relationship standards and perceived opportunities for improving relationships are also shown to be significantly associated with loneliness. Older Dutch men and women without a partner are most vulnerable to loneliness when they have a high partner standard or a low singlehood standard, and see few opportunities to change their situation. CONT

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 21:42

(for example, as a result of experienced health restrictions) in Dutch men. A better understanding of loneliness is obtained if not only the quality of relationships is considered, but also the degree of congruity between relationships and relationship standards, and the favorability of perceived opportunities for bringing about improvements.

very interesting.



Now i know the reasons for such outbursts from time to time .

Roomy


Joined: 20/02/2011
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 21:45

Msg 25



I think you'll find maestro that it is infact you and your bullying ilk that is indeed the scourge of this board and others like it.I never let little men with big issues bother me in the slightest, infact it would be remiss of me to allow you to talk down to others without pointing out your bullying rudeness and hoity toity manner.hahahahahahahaha...

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 21:46

Re : Msg 27,



Yours are stated clearly in your Msg 13: "paranoia brought on by poor quality sniff and of course the good old alcohol".

Roomy


Joined: 20/02/2011
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 21:48

Msg 26 and 27



or he could just be a complete and utter A......e

Hahahahahahahah...

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 21:48

Im sure i was talking to the butcher not the block

Roomy


Joined: 20/02/2011
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 21:50

Some of the bullies have had their own way for too long here methinks.



hahahahahahaha...

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 22:02

Roomy and schizophrenic 0-etc: I understand that it's very sad that for some reason you didn't finish any education in your youth. It happens. Many such victims of the circumstances end up in jail or worse. But is that really a good reason to show all readers here your poor, no: appalling, command of your native language?!

It's not too late though - leave this board alone and subscribe to a course of English for simple minds.

Roomy


Joined: 20/02/2011
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 22:07

Dutch, your superior attitude belies the fact that you are a wimpish old fool lacking in serious social skills and therefore forever banished to a World of your own making, peeking jealously into the World of others and failing miserably to contribute in any meaningful way other than to reinforce your own boorish inadequacies.



Hahahahahahaha...

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 22:07

message 33



im you never will !



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7xXgIgV6DA

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 22:09

opps. msg 33



im sure you never will





typo



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7xXgIgV6DA

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 22:15

This thread is now closed.



Reason: turned into a slanging match again.



For the record the protagonists at Ascot were a bunch of young men from Sidcup. I encountered them on Friday when they were so proud of their pictures being in the SUN newspaper. Don't think they read the Mail



Harold

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
18/06/2011 22:18

@ msg 34, Roomy: Roomy, I understand that it's very sad that for some reason you didn't finish any education in your youth. It happens. Many such victims of the circumstances end up in jail or worse. But is that really a good reason to show all readers here your poor, no: appalling, command of your native language?!



It's not too late though - leave this board alone and subscribe to a course of English for simple minds.



@ msg 35, 0-schizophrenic: Ah! Another link to Youtube! Indeed, Youtube was invented for people who cannot make a point themselves. Sad.