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MsGarnet


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So many of us were drawn towards this lady's awful predicament - and gave advice where we could, even if geography prevented us doing more - yet for reasons I can't fathom, the thread was closed before it became known that she and her child found refuge and safety long term - does anyone know?



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Ms Garnet.



I think if you read the thread,it was asked to be closed by 1 of her friends or @ least some one who knows her well enough to ask for the thread to be closed and that she was ok.



I dont feel a subject like this needs an update with all due respect.



Im sure if you contact nurseawful or lilli offline youll get to know a little more.



MsGarnet


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??????????????????? How bizarre a response!



I simply asked if the lady and her daughter are OK - I am aware from the other thread, someone decided on her behalf, the thread should be closed, and someone else went ahead and did just that. It is totally normal that those of us who were drawn to her situation, would want to know if she and her child are now safe.



Why you should think a posting saying "yes - she and her child are safe now" is something that should be said in private when the horror she was going through, was outlined on a public forum, is beyond comprehension. I am not the least bit interested in whether YOU think "a subject like this needs an update"; so I ask again, is Berilila and her child now safe?



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MsGarnet,



Yes they are both fine if you want to e-mail me please feel free trnchealthcare@gmail.com



Chris



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20/06/2011 18:13

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Well said !!!!



I would also like to know if she is safe and well, and if the police did anything to help as her partner is TC ??



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20/06/2011 18:16

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As i said in message 2



Email offline to nurseawful.



chriswife


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20/06/2011 18:40

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yes i saw it closed and was under the impression it was for her security tbh, i got the info on the thread that all was well though phew!!!



georgieporgie


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For people that are concerned the police were a waste of time,informing her she has no rights regarding the child because as she has his surname he has the right of custody,even though she was born in the uk and holds a uk passport,once again no rights for the brits.The farther has left the mother with no money and no means of support.He even came back when she was out and took all the food out of the freezer (what a bastard)She has no gas to cook with,and unpaid electric and water bills.This poor woman is only surviving the ordeal with the help of friends and neighbours.The support from people that know and dont know her has been amazing.Please keep offering your support to this poor woman.

Thank you all

George.



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20/06/2011 18:42

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its not called "turkish love rats" for nothing................



Jovial_John


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20/06/2011 19:02

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Message 8 - very strange.

I know a TC in Karsiyaka who beat his wife such that she needed stitches and the police immediately arrested and jailed him. When he was released he was told not to go anywhere near his home, wife and TC born daughter. The wife was Russian. Eventually they were reconciled but the wife had to sign papers allowing the husband back into the home.

A Ukranian female I know was being harrassed by a highly placed TC woman who wrongly believed that she was having an affair with her husband. The Girne police called the woman into the station, gave her a very severe telling off and made her apologise to my friend - twice, they weren't happy with the first attempt. They made it quite clear to the woman what would happen if she continued - she didn't.

So I am surprised that the police in this case were useless, but I guess it is down to individual officers.



MsGarnet


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Thanks nurseawful - I sense from all your postings throughout the time I have belonged to this forum, you would have a person in her postion's best interests at heart, and what you were not able to accomplish, you would point - whomever - in the right direction to get what they need.........



Although I am in England still, I do have connections there that I might have turned to as a very last resort, should the lady and her daughter still be in danger.........but I am glad to read she is safe



Omaintenance - msg 2 and 6 - pfffffffffffffffffffft! clearly I am not the only adult that won't be dictated to by you.....



Msg 8 - I too am surprised to read the contents of your post



chriswife


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can i just add it was so nice to see all the positive comments and support as sometimes this forum can be negative and i wish it wasn't but that's freedom i suppose (same as i cant be bothered with my shift key hahaha). issue has restored my faith in the forum and continuing my membership and indeed human nature.

great stuff people and to the lady once agin best of luck.



spider


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20/06/2011 21:37

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Just read this thread and shaking my head !



For sure MsG is unwilling to post her email here, nice to know that she can email others for an update lets hope that is fine with all concerned in this matter...



As was noted from the last thread she may not have had friends to contact on the evening or even before this, but I am very please to know she is getting support. Shame about the lack of support from the police too ! and the way the Ex has left things as is always the way..Given time and support things will look much clearer for her to untangle the ball and gain control again. All my best wishes.



Spider,X Maybe its time to close again ?



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20/06/2011 21:58

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MsGarnet.



Sorry you are upset with my reply.



Given the circumstances and the last post of the closed thread IMHO i would of thought rather than the person in question being discussed on here it would of been much easier to email nurseawful in a discreet way,i know if id been knocked from pillar to post im not sure if id like to think people are wanting an open update on whats happend after it had been told that all was in hand and being dealt with,this is just my opinion,we cant be right all the time !

Glad you got the information you needed in an email.



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20/06/2011 22:48

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http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/66218.asp



To all concerned please read message 49 carefully, I asked for the thread to be closed because of this message to protect mother and child from further attacks.



Spider if you have issues with another member of this form in this case msgarnet please take it off board, this is not about you but about this unfortunate girl.



And just for the record msgarnet has taken me at my word and I have had no communication with her other than on this thread.



Chris



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msg 8;

So,in your eyes,as long as the person(kid in this case) has a british passaport the rest becomes invalid!So much so that the father no longer matters.

Get a life and flick that chip off whilst at it,because you jkust sound like another brit with bitter sorrows,



Apologies for my comments to all,particularly 'berilela' in this difficult times they are going through.



spider


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20/06/2011 23:52

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Message 15 Chris...Lets just sat that I have''' no issues with MrG'''..Just stating as she has often herself that she would not post her email add on here.. As for Take it off the board ? where too I feel she would rather have here issues with me on here ! It has always felt that way and certainly looks that way.



If I recall not so long ago you again said for MsG to email you with regards to the delicate situation of a deceased lady that had left her beloved cats.Maybe she did maybe not..That's down to the both of you.But I could not say that on here and would never think of doing such either.



My post was in support of berilela and nothing more..If I had posted such a thread like this without thinking I think I would have a little RED face by now ! I am just so please that both you an yorgozlu were able to help.



Spider,X



MsGarnet


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21/06/2011 00:01

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nurseawful is one of about three people on this forum with whom (for whatever reason, I felt time was of the essence in a particular situation - as could have happened in this poor lady's case) I would engage with via e.mail, as I sense confidentiality is second nature to her. I don't post personal contact information NOT so much because of - say - a certain arachnid who tells us all "I just like to creeeeep about" but for the same reasons many of us don't - not least the fact the world is full of chemically influenced, walter mitty, unstable, dysfunctional, oddballs.............



I hope the lady and her daughter continue to fare well...........



omaintenance - apologies for being so cross - it is a topic close to my heart; I simply wanted a "yes - all is resolved and mum and daughter's safety is ongoing" type thing.



spider


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21/06/2011 00:26

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Seems I do creeep about..and you too MsG. I guess Chris just pops UP..



But I do not and never would send email to members on this forum that have nothing what so ever to do with the goings on over here..Even if they were to need a new fridge..Was anyone able to contact you at all regarding one..



Happy to meet up on your next visit..you never know we could be firm buddies with similar interests I have a good story to tell about a dysfunctional oddball ...Tell it I may they were never a client !



Spider,X



Lilli



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21/06/2011 00:33

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MsGarnett, your concern is admirable as Chris said email her or me if you wish guidoandliz@yahoo.co.uk . Or facebook Liz Spina. Its really difficult to discuss without the permission and as you know when people are in an emotional state we do not want further pain.I swear which ever you email your details will be totally confindential.



spider


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21/06/2011 00:37

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Please could someone let us know if there is any thing practical we can do to offer help..Like give a little food. She has herself her daughter and the pets to look after..



She said her funds were running out and someone posted the ex had left her penniless and he had taken all the food ! If there is anything I can do berilela please do not hesitate to contact me...Happy to help in anyway.



She is still looking for homes for her pets could someone maybe post some photo's this might help.



Spider,X



MsGarnet


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21/06/2011 00:40

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Lilli - you are one of the three!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I knew ages ago instinctively I could mail you - no need for now......thanks though for confirming what I already knew........trust this finds you and yours well? Have been following your trials and tribulations of late........when I ever get back there, I will be sure to make a visit........I await further surgery here first...........



I've actually never joined Facebook - doubt I will........



take care



spider


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21/06/2011 00:44

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Oh please lilli just get beirlela to email MrG herself..This is terrible. Can you honestly say beirlela would not mind and if so maybe she would like to put her email here so at least it came from her herself.







Spider,X



spider


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Lets hope Ms G may make a nice offer after all these email saying that beirlela can stay in her flat rent free with all bills paid for...



After all this is the sort of practical help that is needed..And if the Ex has no Idea where the flat is, it could well be the'' safe place '' For her and her daughter that is ''much needed '' Have a heart MrG..



Spider,X



vonny


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21/06/2011 01:05

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this thread is getting unbelievable,i think the question has been addressed and should be closed for the sake of Berilela and her child.



spider


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Yes vonny I so agree and stated that a few posts up...As for all the emailing lark MrG could just have sent the emails to Chris and lilli first therefore no need for such a thread in the first instance..



No need at all...shaking head ! Poor berilela.





Spider,X



Tootie


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21/06/2011 01:11

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Spider your not helping and I feel your just another FB gossip



spider


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Tootie..I think my post have been very helpful toward this delicate subject..



FB gossip..lol so very funny.



Please explain if you can of course..But we both know you will not..because cannot pmsl



Hay when are we meeting up now that lilli is no longer there :(





Spider,X



Tootie


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"Hay" is what horses eat, and also I have know idea what your on about? RE...

"Please explain if you can of course..But we both know you will not..because cannot pmsl"



spider


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Tootie why on earth have you even bothered to get involved in this thread ?



IYHO you called me a FB gossip. WHY ?



My facebook is for my friends and family around the world and they sure are not interested in the TOSH posted on here !



Hay did you get you pole erected as yet...I maybe could help or even Vic could put it UP for you. Hows the little dog keeping you happy and busy..are you able to take on lilli's for a few months ?



Spider,X Talk about a change of topic lol.



berilela


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21/06/2011 06:27

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thank you for those of you whom are showing myself and layla so much support ,im continuing on but as someone who knows my husbands is replying to him of all what going on ive not posted for a bit ,my ex has taken the food from my frezzer left me with no gas ,water or money etc and id just like at this point to say thank you to my neighbours whom came to my help last night when he returned to my home last night to pick some of his clothes and chickens which police had said i wasnt allowed to remove and made a scence which later caused my daughter to wet herself in fright of him returning ,id like to express my thanks to lilli and chris for the continued help i really do hope that i will be able to get away soon ,but to the couple whom were supposed to me my friends and shit on me by taking him to see a solictor to gain access to keeping layla SHAME ON YOU please note MY ANIMALS WHICH THIS THREAD WAS ORINALLY OPENED FOR ARE STILL LOOKING DESPERATLY TO BE HOMED ,many many thanks x



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Help still needed regards the two dogs,one a 4 year old Kangol male with a loverly temperament good with kids,and a 9 month old dashund male,he is a very playfull dog also good with kids, and would make an excellent pet.

Please please help time is not on her side.



George



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Yorgo - mess 16 - yeah, looks like the father really loves that girl, doesn't it?



"im continuing on but as someone who knows my husbands is replying to him of all what going on ive not posted for a bit ,my ex has taken the food from my frezzer left me with no gas ,water or money etc and id just like at this point to say thank you to my neighbours whom came to my help last night when he returned to my home last night to pick some of his clothes and chickens which police had said i wasnt allowed to remove and made a scence which later caused my daughter to wet herself in fright of him returning"



On your silly bike!



yorgozlu



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msg 33



>>Yorgo - mess 16 - yeah, looks like the father really loves that girl, doesn't it? <<



Thats besides my point.In too am aware of that.



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berilela, so pleased to hear that neighbours and friends have helped you out, all the best with what ever you decide to do... but if it was me, I would be looking to get the hell away from some one thats a coward.



Your little girl is your main worry, all the very best...



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Msg 31: "my daughter to wet herself in fright of him returning"



IMO none of this harrowing thread should be here for private entertainment but to read this is awful. Children should be protected from psychological harm as once, done it can be there forever. Why are young kids always the innocent victims of poor parental choice and behaviour?



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Before people pontificate about this poor womans situation perhaps they could try to imagine how they would feel if it were them or their children.



If I can be of any practical help, household items etc, please just let me know through the forum and I will do all I can.



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21/06/2011 18:59

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Mods. is it not time to close this thread.



Or has it not been answerd yet!!



berilela


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21/06/2011 19:53

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some of these messages have tonight had me in tears im not posting any more do you think this was MY CHOICE FOR MY DAUGHTER TO WITNESS



Lilli



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Mods please close this now. \please



simbas



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21/06/2011 20:08

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I did e-mail berilela early this morning with some thoughts , but up until now she hasn't replied . I too think it should be closed

Simbas



simbas



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This thread is now closed. It was closed in order to not make a bad situation any worse than what it is .

Simbas



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