GILGAMISH - is wallpapering wth the Injunctions, Judgements & mem'dums

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
20/06/2011 17:50

what a discovery! Just when we thought that we might get our Kocans, we find that Gilgamish has 6 injunctions, court judgements and Memorandums on our site. Unfortunately, for the poor landowner who refused to sign over the Deeds to the plot to the builder, they have all been issued against him personally. He stands to lose his home(s) as well as us lot. Going with him tomorrow to see his Avocate to find out who all the Plaintiffs are. Lapta land owners will own that site (not the builder) so you could be vulnerable.



This is probably another Kulaksiz jobbie.



If there are any people who are buying at Lapta Apartments, believe me, although you do not realise it, you could be involved at some time in the future. Incidentally, when I bought this little house, my Avocate told me it was free of all encumbrances, well, it was not, there had been an injunction on it for a full year. If you are buying from them email me on

suehowlittle@aol.com

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
20/06/2011 18:44

mes 1 - i feel for you Sue....



This place is full of liars and cheats - who the hell would but in the trnc ?

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
20/06/2011 19:18

They have a war on though, when the going gets tough the tough get going, perhaps they will even chuck me out of their country at the end - who cares, without a house, why would I stay here? - thanks Nick, you are so right. Do it all by the book and still this can happen, only here.



And before any of you start, I am NOT a carpetbagger, I just wanted to live in a beautiful country, free from worries of crime and have a peaceful retirement. Not much to ask really is it?

severus


Joined: 20/06/2011
Posts: 19

Message Posted:
20/06/2011 19:37

Another one for the Stop the Blackmail in North Cyprus campaign



http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_144931625579220

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
20/06/2011 20:07

I so wish it was just blackmail severus.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
20/06/2011 20:26

suehowlittle,



There are so many of us in the same or similiar boat, con men the lot of em! in a country of con artists!!!!!



The best of luck with your problems! the Advocats must be rubbing their hands with glee, many more will follow in our footsteps!!!!!



And as for retirement don't go there.......................

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
20/06/2011 20:33

suehowlittle, You are not alone, so many, me included in the same boat, some still haven't found out.

Join the Stop the Blackmail in NOrth Cyprus facebook Group, we are mobilising, we will not be silenced.



Seems you and Pauline have the same mental attitude.



For everyone who has not yet gotten their Kocan - check the provenance of your home NOW - registering your Contract is not enough. Go to the Land Registry and obtain an up to date search, take no one's word for anything. See for yourself. You are the only one you can trust.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
20/06/2011 21:38

Suehowlittle,



Sorry to hear of your situation. Unfortunately the "memorandum loophole" is becoming common practice amongst developers. It's a completely legal way of getting more money out of people that have paid in full for their properties. In the worse scenarios it can mean loss of your house if the builders debts are substantial.



There are now several hundred people in the same boat as yourself. I have no idea why they do not form a group and share their experiences and the differing advocate advice as to the best way forward, with a view to supporting each other.



I suspect you will get little response from Cyp44 so join the above facebook group and speak to others that are going through the same nightmare.



Please keep us in touch with what is happening and I hope you make progress.

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
20/06/2011 21:45

I joined the Facebook group almost immediately. I think it is a great idea.



What I find hard is that even the landowners could lose their homes - I just cannot get my head around a system which works so hard to protect the builders.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
20/06/2011 22:28

Sue,



it goes without saying that you need a new advocate!!!!

justwilliam


Joined: 20/06/2011
Posts: 4

Message Posted:
20/06/2011 22:49

I’ve had some dealings with Gilgamish Properties Ltd. The proprietor Hussain Caner is a nasty piece of work. He is not a registered builder and builds without a permit. The quality of his work is truly dreadful. What you sign up for ie specifications wise and what you get are poles apart. Caner is a Turkish national and knows every trick in the book, and a lot that are not, about conning you out of more money to complete as per contract of sale. Prospective buyers from this man beware.

sloan



Joined: 24/02/2009
Posts: 808

Message Posted:
20/06/2011 23:31

An interesting posting. Nobody (apart from Pauline, and think she would testify for me!) could be much more proactive than me.... turning up for every court case etc. but I think the Gilgamis partners might be our tenants.... how ironic!!!

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
20/06/2011 23:49

sloan (mess 12)



Better the tenants you know!



justwilliam (mess 11)



Many builders in the TRNC whatever nationality know every trick in the book! are very nasty, build without planning permission, and con everyone they come in contact with! it's because there is no law in place to stop them!



Bradus (mess 10)



Good advice as always!

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
21/06/2011 11:41

I have not had a single email from anyone at the LAPTA site. Its amazing, I know that there are dozens of them who have used this Forum in the past. I will try for a little while longer to let them know what is happening with GILGAMISH. Perhaps they would prefer not to know. Whatever, if you are buying an apartment at Lapta, do not think "it's not my problem because I am an another site". It will more than likely be the same for you 3 years down the line when you all get your Permissions and then try for your Kocans.

The Lapta site is not owned by Gilgamish, it is (like my site) owned by the landowner so Gilgamish is untouchable!!!

severus


Joined: 20/06/2011
Posts: 19

Message Posted:
21/06/2011 11:49

sue they do not want to know , it is an uphill battle I have been fighting over 5 years , many think oh it will be ok in the end do not upset the builder / developer over 300 people involved in our saga many home condemed as unsafe and still they pay bribes to the land owner !



there is no so blind as those who do not want to see .



good luck, you are going to need lots of it !

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
21/06/2011 19:41

back to the top just for a little longer - no emails yet.

Rufusa


Joined: 20/06/2011
Posts: 26

Message Posted:
21/06/2011 21:05

Msg 3 :"And before any of you start, I am NOT a carpetbagger"

OMG. This is a whole new ballgame if these crooks are scamming memorandums on pre-74 properties now.

My sympathy to you and all those affected.

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
21/06/2011 22:56

I will fight this with everything I can. (no gloves) No-one is going to take my lovely little house from me.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
21/06/2011 22:58

Sorry to be ignorant

is pre-74 title meant to mean owned by T/c ?

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
22/06/2011 08:36

I don't know phil, don;t understand

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
22/06/2011 08:41

Don't understand my question or

don't know what type of land you bought?

nostradamus


Joined: 15/04/2008
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
22/06/2011 08:51

message 19: pre-74 title can mean belonging to either a TC or a foreigner before this date. These titles are internationally recognised but the 'what passes as a government' here are making it very difficult now for foreigners to get PTP for these.

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
22/06/2011 10:39

The original title is Esegde (sorry about the spelling). Had my ptp for a year now. This has absolutely no bearing though on what is happening here.



This whole thread is about builders getting off scott free of all responsibility, leaving the landowner to face all the Injunctions, Court Judgements and Memorandums. The builders have their assets hidden very carefully and live in rented properties. Lots of the landowners have nothing except the house which the builder agreed to build for them in exchange for the land. Some of them are actually worse off than us! My neighbour here (the landowner) cannot sleep and is ill with the stress of it all.



Unbelievable!

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
22/06/2011 11:20

As another 'conned by the government' victim, I should have heeded the wise words of a wise, old expat, who advised me [in RoC]:



'Never put a penny into Cyprus that you aren't prepared to lose with a smile!'

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
22/06/2011 16:15

You must fight suehowlittle, if the others are suffering from HISS, you must not join them. You will be unpopular because they mistakenly think some miracle will save them, it won't. Builders love HiSS sufferers. I have a theory that put the virus in the water.



Sue, they told us by registering our Contracts this could not happen, they lied - hogwash. HOw many more are in for an unpleasant awakening.



I can vouch for sloan, where she is needed, she is there. There are not many of us but what we lack in quantity we make up for in quality. We will not just go away and accept our fate.



Suehowlittle, if there is anything we can do to help, you will find us on the Stop the Blackmail in NOrth Cyprus

facebook group page, NEVER GIVE IN, NEVER GIVE UP.

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
23/06/2011 21:54

OK, I give up, the Lapta people will have to face their nemesis alone. I had hoped that at least a few would email me but no, they are either not using the forum at the moment or have chosen to bury their heads.



This is the last time I will send the thread back to the top.



Who dares wins!

ebbern5


Joined: 03/06/2008
Posts: 79

Message Posted:
25/06/2011 12:36

Hi Sue



Tried to email you 3 times it keeps being returned (wrong email address)

i and friends have 3 apartments on Lapta site. We will be glad 0f any info you can provide( L.fine@sky.com )



rgds



lou

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
25/06/2011 14:39

Messge 27 - at last someone has contacted re Lapta site - well done.



If your IP is @live.com then I will not get your emails (think there is a fallout between AOL and Live.com



You can email me on suehowlittle@yahoo.com - that will get through OK.



Are any of you in contact with other buyers?



Are you all still handing over the money?

ebbern5


Joined: 03/06/2008
Posts: 79

Message Posted:
25/06/2011 21:16

Hi again



have tried all your email addresses and they are returned.



please email me and I will reply



l.fine@sky.com