state and private hospitals

jmb50


Joined: 21/06/2011
Posts: 11

Message Posted:
22/06/2011 21:08

what are the differences between state hospitals and private hospitals in northern Cyprus (other than cost), any info would be gratefully appreciated or personal experiences thanks

vonny


Joined: 25/06/2009
Posts: 476

Message Posted:
22/06/2011 21:22

in my experience i havent had a big problem with the state hospital,they can be pretty good,IF the right doctor is there, and if you have to stay overnight you will probably be put on a ward.

Private hospitals are very good and there is always the right doctor there that you need to see.and you have your own room if you need to stay, Near East university and life,are excellent

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
23/06/2011 12:53

If you can afford it go private, if not then you have no choice other than to go to the State Hospitals, which are nothing like NHS!



Chris

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
23/06/2011 12:56

No MRSA then....

dolphin17


Joined: 11/06/2009
Posts: 40

Message Posted:
23/06/2011 21:22

A few weeks ago I fell and broke my elbow. Our neighbour took me to Girne State Hospital (this was about 7.30 in the evening). I was seen by the doctor within 5 minutes, was sent for x-rays immediately, and when the x-rays showed a bad break, an orthapaedic surgeon was called. He was there within 15 minutes and put my arm in a splint, to immobilise it. I had surgery first thing the following morning. The surgeon visited me every morning and re-dressed the operation wound. I spent 3 nights in hospital in total. The nurses spoke only a small amount of English, but enough to understand me. Since then, I have been going bacvk for dressings and check up x-rays. Each time I have hardly waited and have been seen by the same surgeon. I cannot fault the treatment I received. I admit the hospital is a little worn at the edges, but the care is excellent. I forgot to say both the 1st doctor I saw and the surgeon both spoke excellent English and could not have been kinder to me. My father ...cont..

dolphin17


Joined: 11/06/2009
Posts: 40

Message Posted:
23/06/2011 21:24

My father had heart surgery in the Uk last year (he was then 83) and was messed around something awful.... the operation date was changed SEVEN times... the nurses could not care less, etc, etc

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
23/06/2011 22:59

msg 3 "nothing like the NHS"



So, No Management Overkill, No manipulated Stats,No "Zoned" preferential treatment..And fully trained staff....





Looks like the State Hospitals are the real deal.......

nostradamus


Joined: 15/04/2008
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
24/06/2011 06:53

I know, from personal experience, that the ambulance and A & E are very good and quick at Girne Hospital. From family and friends' experience, however, I wouldn't want to use Lefkosa Hospital. The specialist docs. are only there in the mornings (they work privately in the afternoons), huge language problems with nurses and often the junior docs. I have never seen any sign that the nurses are remotely well trained and a lot of them are plain unhelpful! The hospital is, frankly, a tip - bedding changed very infrequently, toilets filthy, queues for everything in outpatients. The cancer treatment wing is much better but that, of course, is mainly paid for by the cancer charities. From experience of private hospitals, Etik is very good, ditto Girne Private Hospital, Near East seems OK but be careful of the charges. Cyprus Life - not impressed with their diagnostics or prices. Letam (diagnostics) are brilliant.

Tatum1


Joined: 23/03/2009
Posts: 337

Message Posted:
24/06/2011 07:58

I have had experience in Lefkosa State hospital when I had a very severe chest infection.

Howver, initially I went private to see the consultant but was then sent to Lefkosa for CT scan etc.

The service was exremely good.

IT WAS SPOTLESSLY CLEAN IN THAT UNIT.

Also, the staff friendly though no English.

As I have residency here ...... charges as for a local ..... negligble.

Result etc same day

carian


Joined: 13/03/2009
Posts: 336

Message Posted:
24/06/2011 09:07

My husband was admitted to Lefkosa neurological unit from Girne hospital by ambulance, when I got there he had already seen a doctor and was coming out of CT, he was in there for 2 nights and ok the hospital could be nicer but the medical treatment he got was very good. The cost was 129TL for everything.

About 3 years ago he was in Kyrenia private hospital overnight with pneumonia and no-one checked on him all night.

As a former A & E sister I can't complain about the treatment we experienced in the public hospitals but don't expect the nursing care you would receive in the UK.

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
24/06/2011 10:44

The NHS is split into various PCT's all run by Different Managers,with different Budgets,,,hardly a" blanket health care system" as was originally conceived................ Farcical really.

magalan


Joined: 17/01/2009
Posts: 227

Message Posted:
24/06/2011 11:51

Just to balance msg 5 experience............

On Monday 13th, my wife slipped down the bottom three steps at home, and had obviously fractured her wrist. I took her immediately to Girne State Hospital. As in msg 5, she was seen immediately, taken for X-ray, and then taken to A&E treatment room. The X-ray showed a broken bone at the bottom of her arm and a displacement of the wrist. The doctor, having requested that I leave the room, then attempted to relocate her wrist by having two nurses hold my wife down while he took hold of her hand and pulled (never mind about the break). NO ANAESTHETIC. BARBARIC is the only way to describe it. After putting the arm in a cast, a second X-ray revealed that he had not been successful in his attempt at relocation (still never mind about the break). The doctor then suggested we go to MediKent after lunch, as he would then have finished his shift at Girne, and would be able to operate properly on the arm. We left the hospital and went straight(cont)

magalan


Joined: 17/01/2009
Posts: 227

Message Posted:
24/06/2011 11:57

(cont) to NEU Hospital, where she was seen immediately, taken for X-ray and CAT scan, and operated on at 1500 that same afternoon, when two pins were inserted into the broken bone and the wrist re-aligned. The NEU surgeon commented that additional soft tissue and nerve damage had probably been caused by the actions of the A&E doctor in Girne.



Always go private if you can.......................

Tatum1


Joined: 23/03/2009
Posts: 337

Message Posted:
24/06/2011 12:04

As purely a matter of interest how much was your bill at NEU?

tonyf


Joined: 29/03/2009
Posts: 153

Message Posted:
24/06/2011 12:17

My wife and I arrived in TRNC 2 days later she developed a DVT in her leg. We immediately went to Girne state hospital, suggested by local Turkish Cypriot, yes well worn facility, but we were seen almost immediately. Blood tests done for INR and confirmed their suspiscions of a DVT. Rushed by hospital (blue light) to Nicosia state hospital and as I arrived my wife had already had ECG, CT scan and xrays. Surgeon arrived and confirmed the DVT and that we should go to the private hospital in Girne the next day for a dopla echo to confirm the thrombosis. Cost at Girne and Nicosia 110ytl. Went to Girne private hospital next day dopla done and yes DVT x 2 found. Cardio vascular surgeon visited and told my wife to take heparin injections and warfarin cost for surgeon advice 100ytl. Returned to UK and the saga in the UK is still going on with tri-weekly visits to the NHS hospital for INR tests, would use BUPA but my wife is excluded for circulatory problems, cont.......

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
24/06/2011 12:18

msg12......Although a horror story, it is undoubtedly the Doctor to blame NOT the Hospital...There are some excellent Doctors working for UK private Hospitals, and there are some "QUACKS" as I found out ....And It cost the full use of my left arm and 15K....It's all a lottery here and in the UK..........

tonyf


Joined: 29/03/2009
Posts: 153

Message Posted:
24/06/2011 12:19

cont......

typical bs insurance company, and whilst NHS are good the time scales for seeing specialists compared with the state cyprus hospitals is poor, guess I am going to have to put my hand down and go private!!!!!

So in conclusion can't complain about both state and private hospitals in TRNC, reasonable and fast and good

araneae


Joined: 24/06/2011
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
24/06/2011 12:45

Lefkosa neurological unit can be very good for sure but do drop clangers.

carian


Joined: 13/03/2009
Posts: 336

Message Posted:
24/06/2011 13:34

Re message 12, a displaced fracture of the wrist has to be pulled to re-align the bones so that healing can occur, it is common practice in the UK to reduce this type of fracture without surgery BUT with some form of anaesthetic and analgesia. She probably ended up having to have surgery because they did not use anything to numb the arm/wrist therefore the muscles around the fracture would be contracted and not relaxed enough to allow reduction and re-alignment.

magalan


Joined: 17/01/2009
Posts: 227

Message Posted:
24/06/2011 21:04

Exactly my point! As you say, Girne hospital's refusal to use any form of anaesthesia or analgesia caused additional damage which required surgery to stabilise the broken head of the radius bone

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
24/06/2011 22:33

I very much doubt that the lack of anaesthesia caused additional trauma to the soft tissue,just unnecessary discomfort,if the head of the radius was fractured the damage was already done .And stabilisation with pins or plates would have been the usual practise anyway........I speak as an ex motor cycle racer who has suffered two wrist fractures.........Both of the Radius and Ulnar.............Like I said some Doc's are good and some are Quacks.





I guess you initially got the Quack....

carian


Joined: 13/03/2009
Posts: 336

Message Posted:
25/06/2011 09:41

Re message 21, usual treatment of a fractured radius & ulna that is displaced is to reduce it under anaesthesia and put it in a plaster cast. Obviously there are exceptions to this and coming off a motor-cycle at speed probably would be one of them.What I was saying was because they attempted to reduce it without any anaesthesia the muscles would not be relaxed so it make it very difficult to do. It probably didn't make things worse but without anaesthesia surgery would be the only option.

During the 14 years I worked in A & E I have assisted at this procedure many times