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dodger


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Message Posted: 27/09/2007 21:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 74 in Discussion |
| been on holiday,has the inside out programme been shown yet regarding t.r.n.c. |
dy1259

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Message Posted: 27/09/2007 23:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 74 in Discussion |
| I wrote to Andrew Head re: programme (my own letter, not the standard letter). I received the following reply: Dear Donna, Thanks for these comments, which I will consider carefully before transmission. However, I don't think it would be appropriate to talk about the exact content of the programme before it goes out. Please watch the programme and I will then be happy to discuss what we have broadcast. Best wishes Andrew Head |
dodger


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Message Posted: 27/09/2007 23:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 74 in Discussion |
| thanks donna but when will it be shown. |
ukturk


 Joined: 01/09/2007 Posts: 1974
Message Posted: 27/09/2007 23:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 74 in Discussion |
| hi there dy1259 can you tell me what channel they will broardcast this on, where i am in turkey itv and bbc has a poor signal on my dish so i would have to go round my mates house who has got a 4.5 metre dish in his garden (what a sight!!!!) would like to see this programe to see it they come out with the same waffle or if it shows some support |
dodger


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Message Posted: 27/09/2007 23:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 74 in Discussion |
| ukturk, the programme will definiteley be shown on the b.b.c. just cant sem to find out when. |
davidoff

Joined: 21/04/2007 Posts: 438
Message Posted: 27/09/2007 23:56 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 74 in Discussion |
| Hi all, If I can remember its supposed to be wednesdays at 7:30pm!! And its supposed to be a series of 9 shows. But last week it wasnt on in london as I got an argricultural programme of som discription with purple flowers!! And I missed last nights Im afraid I forgot- so I dont know if it was on last night?? See ya D |
ukturk


 Joined: 01/09/2007 Posts: 1974
Message Posted: 28/09/2007 00:56 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 74 in Discussion |
| thanks dodger and davidoff so it looks like i have to pester my mate but i have not got a chance if his wife wants to watch corrie if it is on itv at the same day and time!!!!! L.O.L |
dy1259

Joined: 10/08/2007 Posts: 357
Message Posted: 28/09/2007 01:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 74 in Discussion |
| Hi all, the programme is regional as far as I know. I'll email Andrew Head to see if he'll enlighten me as to which region and when. I'll let you know if I get anything back. |
dy1259

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Message Posted: 28/09/2007 11:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 74 in Discussion |
| I've had a reply: It is scheduled to go out on October 17th at 7.30pm on BBC1. That will be in the BBC South region. BBC West may also show it on the same night. Failing that, you can watch it anywhere in the country on Sky channel 984. Andrew Head |
ukturk


 Joined: 01/09/2007 Posts: 1974
Message Posted: 28/09/2007 13:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 74 in Discussion |
| thanks donna ill will defo watch this i guess when you say 7:30pm that is gmt so i have to add another 2 hours to that, looks like ill have to go and watch it round my mates house then!!!!! lets just see what they broadcast will it be the same bulls..t as every other programme and article or will it state true facts and show a bit more support and understanding, either way dont make no diffrence if it is bull turks are used to it being made out to be the bad ones!!!! or if it is true facts and understanding no doubt the bbc will get complaints from the south cyprus community!!!! |
Bradus

Joined: 25/02/2007 Posts: 2641
Message Posted: 28/09/2007 20:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 74 in Discussion |
| Not sure if I'm 100% right but I think it is more to do with the problems of buying abroad and is highlighting some of the pitfalls. They are looking at poor quality builds and highlighting some of the scams that have happened to Brits buying abroad. People who have bought in the TRNC are sharing their experiences. I'm glad its only going out in the south because now I can't watch it and therefore hopefully won't end up feeling angry and frustrated. Don't think TRNC is the only destination to be slaughtered.....I heard Spain got some really bad coverage too. |
dy1259

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Message Posted: 28/09/2007 23:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 74 in Discussion |
| In that case, they should also show the problems encountered buying in the ROC to balance it out or don't they have any problems? Take your point about watching it and then getting angry, Bradus! I'll watch though. |
desert rose

Joined: 18/06/2007 Posts: 64
Message Posted: 29/09/2007 08:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 74 in Discussion |
| While I was back in the Uk this summer. I watched an Inside Out programme. Think it was shown on the 19th. It had a small 10 minute piece about Maggot Pete who moved to Famagusta to escape the British law. He sold rotten meat not even fit for dog food to supermarkets and butchers in the Uk. He then fled to North Cyprus. After some time, got extradited back to the UK to serve his time.. Hurah! A x |
dy1259

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Message Posted: 11/10/2007 02:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 74 in Discussion |
| Just to remind people re:Inside Out programme. Looked on Sky info. it says: 'Joe Crowley investigates a property company building holiday homes on disputed land...' !!!! I was emailed by the BBC with the following info: 'It is scheduled to go out on October 17th at 7.30pm on BBC1. That will be in the BBC South region. BBC West may also show it on the same night. Failing that, you can watch it anywhere in the country on Sky channel 984.' I think it's only on in the South region/Sky 984 Looks like it's only on in the BBC South region/ sky channel 984. |
dy1259

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Message Posted: 11/10/2007 02:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 74 in Discussion |
| LOL! Sorry about repetition-don't know what happened there. |
dodger


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Message Posted: 11/10/2007 22:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 74 in Discussion |
| what side is it on again dy l.o.l. |
dy1259

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Message Posted: 11/10/2007 22:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 74 in Discussion |
| Just making sure you all know....lol! |
dodger


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Message Posted: 14/10/2007 23:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 74 in Discussion |
| wednesday 7.30.channel sky channel 984 |
dy1259

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Message Posted: 15/10/2007 00:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 74 in Discussion |
| Yes, it's on Wednesday 7.30 Sky channel 984, isn't it dodger? |
ukturk


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Message Posted: 15/10/2007 13:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 74 in Discussion |
| dodger and dy it is on channel 984, 19:30pm wednesday thats this week l.o.l (i thought i would write it in another way) |
dy1259

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Message Posted: 15/10/2007 18:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 74 in Discussion |
| LOL! No, no...it's... .....984 Channel, half-past 7, not Monday, Tues, Thurs. Fri, Sat or Sun. Got it? |
ukturk


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Message Posted: 15/10/2007 19:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 74 in Discussion |
| ok i understand its carsamba aksam yedi bucuk da, sky kanal dokuz sekiz dort tamam lol (for our turkish speaking posters) |
piglet

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Message Posted: 16/10/2007 20:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 74 in Discussion |
| Hello! Dont know if its of any help-we live in Southampton and the programme is on Wednesday 17th Oct at 7.30 Thanks for the forum-I love reading it |
dodger


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Message Posted: 16/10/2007 20:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 74 in Discussion |
| does anyone know when the inside out programme is on. |
dy1259

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Message Posted: 16/10/2007 22:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 74 in Discussion |
| All I wanted to post was, No. And it won't let me! |
dy1259

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Message Posted: 17/10/2007 18:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 74 in Discussion |
| It's on tonight, by all accounts. |
Measles

Joined: 09/08/2007 Posts: 8
Message Posted: 17/10/2007 21:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 74 in Discussion |
| WELL THAT WAS A WASTE OF TV TIME ! - TV IS BRAIN FRAZZLING ENOUGH WITHOUT THAT SHORT-LIVED RUBBISH |
Measles

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Message Posted: 17/10/2007 21:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 74 in Discussion |
| I GOT HERE FIRST ! |
dy1259

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Message Posted: 17/10/2007 21:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 74 in Discussion |
| It was disgusting. I phoned the BBC and complained. A totally one sided , simplistic presentation of the situation. Utter rubbish. Here is the BBC phone number, the more complaints the better. Why should they get away with this Greek Cypriot propaganda? 08700 100 222 |
dodger


Joined: 29/07/2007 Posts: 1895
Message Posted: 17/10/2007 22:01 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 74 in Discussion |
| absolute *************bollocks,surely they should have shown both sides to the argument or is that on next week i think not, impartial b.b.c. my arse,guess were my property is.i bet the sea terra salesperson doesnt sell many wasnt very slick was she.programmes like that should take the form of a debate not just greek this greek that wham bam thank you mam.anyone who hasnt done any research on the cyprus problem and happened to tune in to that load of garbage would not touch northern cyprus with a barge pole now.totally irresponsible journalism,and no i havent been drinking just so angry. |
dy1259

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Message Posted: 17/10/2007 22:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 74 in Discussion |
| Please phone and complain to the BBC about their impartiality. |
dodger


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Message Posted: 17/10/2007 22:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 74 in Discussion |
| will, do di but i will need to calm down a bit first as they will just put the phone down on me. |
martin73

Joined: 06/10/2007 Posts: 24
Message Posted: 17/10/2007 22:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 33 of 74 in Discussion |
| If people have missed it you can view it after the show airs (not sure when) at this http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/west/ Then click "latest edition" |
ukturk


 Joined: 01/09/2007 Posts: 1974
Message Posted: 17/10/2007 22:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 34 of 74 in Discussion |
| hi there guys sorry to say i did tell you it would be one sided and load of bullsh.it!!!!! i actually missed it because i had some work on but donna and paul i can tell by your posts im glad i missed it because you guys know what im like i would have gone MAD!!!!!! so what was it like did it totally scare off potential buyers because of the land situation (thats the first thing they push on you with their bullsh.t propaganda) but it dont surprise me the bbc are well known for that trust me im complaing i cant phone 08700 numbers from turkey but ill be writing them a direct no holds bared email dont worry guys as long as there people like us on these forums eventually we will be heard because the world wide web is a stronger tool than t.v plus there are normal people with voices not no jumped up journerlists who get payed to witre sh.t and dont broadcast the full picture long live the Turkish Republic of North Cyprus and the people who live and love the country!!!! (sorry gone a bit too long again) |
dy1259

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Message Posted: 17/10/2007 22:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 35 of 74 in Discussion |
| I contacted Embargoed! and hope they'll complain. As I said, totally biased against the TRNC/Turkish Cypriots with a very, very simplistic view of the whole Cyprus situation. |
Trotters

Joined: 06/10/2007 Posts: 20
Message Posted: 17/10/2007 23:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 36 of 74 in Discussion |
| I have registered our complaint with the BBC |
dy1259

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Message Posted: 17/10/2007 23:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 38 of 74 in Discussion |
| Thanks Erkan. I'll get onto OFCOM. |
dodger


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Message Posted: 17/10/2007 23:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 39 of 74 in Discussion |
| thanks erkan im oni t straight away,i knew it would be portraid as it was and thought i would take it with a pinch of salt but found myself shouting at the t.v.there is always two sides to every story and thats all we are asking for. |
dy1259

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Message Posted: 17/10/2007 23:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 40 of 74 in Discussion |
| I've emailed my complaint to OFCOM. So I think I've complained to just about everybody I can think of. Hope others do the same. |
ukturk


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Message Posted: 17/10/2007 23:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 41 of 74 in Discussion |
| donna/paul what you think shall we start a new subject on complaing to ofcom about the programme with the link included? |
dy1259

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Message Posted: 17/10/2007 23:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 42 of 74 in Discussion |
| I think so. This sort of Greek Cypriot propaganda aired on prime time TV affects everyone in the TRNC- TCypriot and expat. |
B&BLondon

Joined: 31/01/2007 Posts: 64
Message Posted: 17/10/2007 23:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 43 of 74 in Discussion |
| Couple of points: i found the emblem (On a Greek's T shirt) of Cyprus with the north in red 'bleeding' into the south, with the slogan 'we will return' a bit 'sensational' (in a bad way). ALso found it ironic that the Greeks who were so keen to get 'their Motherland returned to them' appear to live and work in the UK If you have bought from Sea Terra, don't lose too much sleep over this - the same thing has been said about lots of developments, Sea Terra tonight, another developer next month |
dy1259

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Message Posted: 17/10/2007 23:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 44 of 74 in Discussion |
| The GCypriot women who stated that there was NO Turkish Cypriot owned land in Esentepe was a LIE. Turkish Cypriots have always owned land in Esentepe. Therefore the BBC also endorsed the airing of factual inaccuracies, in other words, blatant LIES. |
B&BLondon

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Message Posted: 17/10/2007 23:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 45 of 74 in Discussion |
| I have just registered my complaints using UKturk link (what a marvel he is - assuming he is a he!) I found the proces very empowering! i have never complained about a TV programme before, although i do shout at the telly a lot so may now do it more often! |
simbas


 Joined: 16/07/2007 Posts: 5943
Message Posted: 18/10/2007 08:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 46 of 74 in Discussion |
| good morning all , unfortunatly i missed last nights programme. martin i tried the link you provided but couldnt view for some reason.Do you think it will re-run on sky today ?.i dont suppose the programme came as any great shock really, i was expecting it to be all one sided and judging by all the comments that were posted i was not disappointed but i too would like to complain but i need to see the programme first , would there be any good in starting a petition ?{ ukturk can you help ? }and also i might be a bit nieave here but is there any chance we could provoke a programme in support of nc ?. and how would we go about it ?. have a good day all simbas |
Tiggy

Joined: 25/07/2007 Posts: 1994
Message Posted: 18/10/2007 10:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 47 of 74 in Discussion |
| well said Simbas, the right to reply would be a good thing if they had the guts to do it.. The only accurate thing that was relayed was at the very start of the programme with the conflict being ignited by a Greek Coup and the TC fleeing to the North and the GC to the South with the Turkish Government stepping in to save their people. As said the programme was made in England with older GC people who I would say have done very well for them selves. What really gets me is do people think that the TC people have not lost out in the south and have suffered loss & heartache, Seems that none of them lived in the North before 74! The lady remembering her land from a recent ariel photo, knew every inch from 33 years ago was well staged along with other parts of the show. In my job I have been involved with TV companies and indeed appeared myself on a "fly on the wall" programme. When it was shown we could not believe the amount of inaccuracies that were in it, even though info was given and discussed. Like B&BLondon I have never complined before about a TV programme, Im now off to do so with BBC etc. Maybe it might get them to see the other side, or both at the same time. Live the TRNC dream. |
ukturk


 Joined: 01/09/2007 Posts: 1974
Message Posted: 18/10/2007 10:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 48 of 74 in Discussion |
| morning simbas i have already started a new subject which has a direct link to the british broadcasting complaints commison which is a part of ofcom go and have a look and sign it then post that you have thanks you to have a good day |
grahamlil

Joined: 10/10/2007 Posts: 143
Message Posted: 18/10/2007 10:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 49 of 74 in Discussion |
| I have also complained using ukturks link, thanks ukturk as a potental buyer it could have put me of, but I have done my research. The program was journalistic sensationalism one sided and biased |
ilovecyprus

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Message Posted: 18/10/2007 10:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 50 of 74 in Discussion |
| Hey guys i am ın nc so did not see it. We should not be surprised. The BBC ıs a hıghly politically motivated organısatiıon. It ıs far from ımpartıal. There is absolutely no chance of them airıng an alternative view although one should always try to encourage them to do so |
JamesB

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Message Posted: 18/10/2007 10:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 51 of 74 in Discussion |
| For sometime now I have seen the BBC for what it really is Tabloid TV, after everything that has gone with the competitions and phone ins is just the tip of the iceburg. I'm waiting for that smug bastard on rogue traders to do an undercover sting in one of his pathetic disguises (maybe as a slovakian journalist called Ilikekok!) Showing us the real extent of the abuse of licence payers money and political corruption. |
ukturk


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Message Posted: 18/10/2007 11:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 52 of 74 in Discussion |
| hi there again tiggy you hit the nail on the head its all about the propaganda and who gets their side of the story in first is the story uneducated people belive and your right most of the turkish cypriots pre 74 lived in the south for example my whole family used to live in skella which is now called larnaca you dont see any of the turks who lived there going on t.v saying to the public dont buy any houses in larnaca of a greek cypriot because the land belongs to a turkish cypriot and that greek lady what dy is going on about is a liar because if you look on the 1958 map ive sent to most people there is a X where esentepe is and if you look at what that means it says during 58 and 64 turks fleed from there but you dont see any of my family on tv spreading lies and have emblems on their shirts with the south side driping with blood do you!!!! anyway for people who want to complain i have started a new post with the link included please post it when you have done so thanks |
Tiggy

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Message Posted: 18/10/2007 11:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 53 of 74 in Discussion |
| Dear all, below is my official complait to BBC. I have also telephoned and spoken t o "Gillian" who will forward to Director (alleged) Re: Land issues in Northern Cyprus. Dear BBC, My first time ever of complaining about a TV programme. Last night's programme showing a complete one sided view of Greek Cypriot's (London based) was hard for me to swallow. Is it not about time that a company like yours showed the other side to the differences of the peoples of Cyprus, even better if you showed a debate with both sides in attendance. The programme was made in London and had several inaccuracies, one being that Turkish Cypriots had not lived in the Esentepe area. Also omitted was that Turkish Cypriot land in the South has been built on and will never be recovered. Their are so many more issues that could be raised and answered. How about getting a programme on the subject and giving all sides the chance to debate and may be of help to the peoples of Cyprus and the outside world. Regards, Patrick Conlon |
breezyboy

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Message Posted: 18/10/2007 12:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 54 of 74 in Discussion |
| Have compalined to both BBC and Offcom demanding that a full hearing be given to the Turkish Cypriot people and daring them to include a full detailed account of the attrocities carried out on these people pre 1974 which makes the minor detail of land pale into insignificance. Also asked them to look at TC land sold to buiders in the south and now full of houses especially Pathos area. Perhaps if enough of us do this something might happen. Breezyboy |
dy1259

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Message Posted: 18/10/2007 13:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 55 of 74 in Discussion |
| You are all brilliant. I hope many more people complain. We need to defend the rights of the TCs/expats in the TRNC. Greek Cypriot propaganda should not be left unanswered. |
davidoff

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Message Posted: 18/10/2007 13:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 56 of 74 in Discussion |
| Hi all, WHATS HAPPENED- IM IN THS SOUTH IN BUCKINGHAMSHIRE AND I DIDNT SEE IT?? WHERE WQAS IT AIRED WHAT AREAS? WHAT HAPPENED?? QHO DID THEY NAME AND SHAME ALSO?? WHAT DEVELOPMENTS WERE MENTIONED ETC? CANT VIEW IT ON THE LINKS- WHATS HAPPENED?? Take care-D |
JamesB

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Message Posted: 18/10/2007 14:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 57 of 74 in Discussion |
| davidoff, You can view it on line. http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/ Go down right hand side of page - to the south - then click "watch latest edition in full" but you can forward to the London GC propaganda section! J |
lovelife

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Message Posted: 18/10/2007 16:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 58 of 74 in Discussion |
| Who said never let the thruth get in the way of a good story? I will be composing my letter to both BBC and ofcom today, as I taped the programme and have only just watched it and to clarify things may watch it again as I found it jaw dropping in the least, talk about a one sided story. It annoys me that the programme was so biased, the GC propaganda machine must be celebrating with this windfall, all at the licence fee payers expense. |
Susie

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Message Posted: 18/10/2007 16:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 59 of 74 in Discussion |
| I complained too and asked when would the BBC be interviewing the TC who holds the title deeds to the land on which Larnaca airport is built (hope this info is accurate, it has been covered in Cyprus Today on occassions) Also, there are regualr property exhibitions for the South, but TC don't hang around inciting violence - because TC people are trying to move on without the bitterness and hatred that the GC continues to perpetuate. No-one says 'don't buy a villa in South Cyprus because a Turk will come and want it back'! The GC seem to be ploughing money into a very efficient propaganda fund. |
Susie

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Message Posted: 18/10/2007 16:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 60 of 74 in Discussion |
| Uk turk - 'Turk' always sounds to me a bit of a 'slang' or derogatory term, or is it ok? ( i suppose i liken it to Pakistani and p**i) |
davidoff

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Message Posted: 18/10/2007 16:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 61 of 74 in Discussion |
| Hi all, Just put in my double sided A4 spread of complaint to the BBC after managing to view the programme on the site after 4 attempts! Take care-D |
ukturk


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Message Posted: 18/10/2007 17:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 62 of 74 in Discussion |
| hi susie a person who comes from turkey and north cyprus is a turk it is not slang or wrong im a turk who has lived in the u.k hence the name ukturk it is ok sussie to call me turk cos i am hope this has cleared things up for you l.o.l |
davidoff

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Message Posted: 18/10/2007 17:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 63 of 74 in Discussion |
| Hi all, Turks call eachother turks! Its just the same as calling the british a brit !! Or an australian an Ausie! So dont worry no-ones offended here!! Take care-D |
JamesB

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Message Posted: 18/10/2007 21:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 64 of 74 in Discussion |
| Why don't the pakistanis think of it this way? |
davidoff

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Message Posted: 18/10/2007 21:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 65 of 74 in Discussion |
| Good point???? |
ukturk


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Message Posted: 18/10/2007 21:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 66 of 74 in Discussion |
| because my friends when the british empire ruled them countries the british used to call them by this name and it has stuck with them ever since thats why they as a race dont like it and at the end of the day we have to as a human race respect their wishes |
dodger


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Message Posted: 18/10/2007 21:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 67 of 74 in Discussion |
| also a good point!!!! |
simbas


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Message Posted: 19/10/2007 08:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 68 of 74 in Discussion |
| Good morning all. tried to access the link but it says i dont have a plugin for that media type . what does that mean? { i am not exactly computer literate but i do try } is it a simple thing like the appropriate plug or is it more complex than that ?. also do you think it would it be ethical to make a complaint based on the comments that have been posted because i think i have the gist of what was televised have a good day simbas |
davidoff

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Message Posted: 19/10/2007 11:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 69 of 74 in Discussion |
| Hi simbas, Dont know but when you go into it it gives you 4 different media aptions- I had to try them all until one of them worked finally!! Good luck! Take care-D |
lovelife

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Message Posted: 19/10/2007 14:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 70 of 74 in Discussion |
| Have written my piece to the BBC, will await with bated breath for a reply! |
ukturk


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Message Posted: 19/10/2007 14:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 71 of 74 in Discussion |
| hi there guys if you are complaing to the bbc or ofcom please take a look on the subject post Making a Complaint to Ofcom about the Inside Out programme on this post i have provided direct links to ofcom and the bbc complaints departments then post that you have done so thank you p.s also it is prob better if you complain to ofcom because they are the t.v regulator and if they recive enuf complaints about this they actually will investegate the b.b.c where if you complain to them directly they will just reply in saying thank you for your email we will look in to it and then prob brush it under the carpet!!!! but two complaints are better than one so hit them both if you have the time |
dodger


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Message Posted: 21/10/2007 16:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 72 of 74 in Discussion |
| keep complaining on this one members. |
McSteviet


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Message Posted: 21/10/2007 16:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 73 of 74 in Discussion |
| Havn't seen the program yet and it's not available on the BBC's website anymore. Anyone know if there is anywhere else I can view it. MC |
Tiggy

Joined: 25/07/2007 Posts: 1994
Message Posted: 22/10/2007 11:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 74 of 74 in Discussion |
| Dear all, see BBC reply and mine back. sorry but is ar@e about face! Hello Gemma, Thank you for your reply, I still feel the programme has left a feeling that the BBC were not being fair to both sides. I would like to know how the programme was brought about, was it from one person making it known to you or was it on mass like most organised Greek Cypriot style of complaining. Did you investigate the allegations before airing the programme to see if both complainers and Estate agent were correct etc? The "T" shirt with blood dripping from the North to the South, was this part of mis-selling land ?...... I can assure you that the Turkish Cypriots feel let down and made to feel like they are always on the wrong side of all that is shown about them and the country. It is about time a company as world known as yours showed how the people of North Cyprus just want to get on with their lives and hopefully at some stage have closer ties to the South (not for the lack of them trying) There is so much more on this, but it would in my opinion be a waste of time as the BBC would not be prepared to find out people from the North's loss of land and basic human rights. Regards, Patrick P.s. I was also a little disappointed that the show did not have a phone in quiz! From: info@bbc.co.uk [mailto:info@bbc.co.uk] Sent: 20 October 2007 21:30 To: Conlon, Patrick: HHASC-EnvHlth Subject: Inside Out [T2007101800MXS010Z2878131] Dear Mr Conlon Thank you for your e-mail. This report was broadcast on the Inside Out regional programme in the BBC South region only. We have therefore raised your concerns with the Editor of Inside Out (South). We're sorry that you felt the programme was biased, but must point out that the report did not actually set out to examine the rights and wrongs of Cypriot history - which have limited local relevance to the BBC South region - but rather to highlight a company which Inside Out believed was selling property there without fully informing customers of the associated risks surrounding land ownership rights. The company featured, SeaTerra, is selling properties in North Cyprus and therefore North Cyprus was the natural focus of our story. However, our programme did not criticise the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus or Turkish Cypriots - the programme simply examined the sales techniques used by SeaTerra and the subsequent possible risks faced by purchasers. The balance in the programme therefore came from SeaTerra and not the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. We provided SeaTerra with details of all the allegations made in our programme and included a fair and accurate summary of their response. The programme did contain the views of several Greek Cypriots who claimed to have lost land around Esentepe. Once again, however, their complaints were about the way that SeaTerra was marketing the land at Esentepe. The appropriate balance was therefore provided by the company's statement. We provided some brief historical context to explain why the land around Esentepe is disputed and believe that this explanation was fair and balanced. We stated that a Greek-inspired coup had prompted an invasion by Turkey, and we pointed out that both Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots had been displaced from their homes. Our report here happened to be about the Greek Cypriots, because it was their land that was being sold by SeaTerra in the south of England, therefore this was relevant to our viewers. In conclusion, I hope you can appreciate that this was never intended to be the definitive film on the divisions and politics of Cyprus. Our aim was simply to highlight the way that a local company was selling property without fairly explaining the full situation to potential customers. Thank you again for taking the time to contact us with your concerns. Regards Gemma |
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